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easyfun · 05-30-2003, 05:22 PM

I am often asked wy I flame these cretins - Here is why)

Dec 1999 I received an email from Jacek Greber. He and two friends had a website called www.wideavenue.com and had all but lost their money.
They asked me to help them.
Me and my wife decided to come to Poland to talk to these guys - (I had previously met Jacek as my wife comes from the same City)
I agreed with Jacek, Pawel and Krzystof Slawynskie (Jaqcek's two partners who I had never previously known) to fund a project and for me to take a background roll -
I purchased two domains smokingfetish.net and smoking-fetish.net - Took loads of photo's and videos of models, and we set up a smoking fetish site with the second site meant to be used as a free feeder. I gave the three guys directions in how to get traffic to the sites. (I also paid for many programmes and even gave them a car to help get around)
Ccbill were to act as ccp (I had been with ccbill for a few years, but we set this up as a new account)
The smoking site took off - Our first week saw close to a hundred members join.
This was early April 2000. Two weeks later, the three guys simply disappeared.
I tried to check the ccbill account - All passwords had been changed.
The domain registrar password had also been changed and the whois showed a false name.

At that, ok, I had been ripped off - Put it down to Polish mentallity or something like that!

In August 2000 I saw The Slawynsky brothers with a guy called Przybylsky - A very well known hacker and program cracker - All three ran away!

Late August, I was working at my computers when a member wrote asking me to stop spamming about my other legshow sites (I have owned legshow since 1996) I wrote back saying a) I don't spam and B) I only have legshow.net - Later that day I had other similar letters about a balloon fetish site of mine - I was the first person to run a balloon fetish site - also 1996)
This time I was given the name of the site - www.balloon-show.com - I had never heard of it - I visited the site and was blocked via htaccess - instead another page came up and written in polish was this headline: We used you and we will fuck you).
I realised they had simply copied the balloon fetish idea from me - I then found legshowgirls and legshow amateurs - Two more copies of my legshow site.
But how were sunny dollars able to write to my members?
I went to my ccbill stats page to change the password - and found over 450 members had cancelled since the previous day!
Changed password and wrote to ccbill (Tom Fisher) - I then heard from a guy called Mark (Risk analyst engineer) Logs showed another Polish ip had entered my stats over 500 times from JANUARY 2000 !!! I knew this static ip to be Sunny Dollars.
Fisher put me in touch with Kim (kimmykim) She was to take care of this for me -
I waited - Days turned into weeks.
During this time my server was so badly hacked that
1) Thousands of galleries were deleted or removed. Images swapped. etc.
2) I was now no longer able to ftp even.
3) Galleries had been uploaded containing images which were not mine

I finally got back to Kimmykim - I was told the stats page being hacked was my own fault and she point blank refused to hand over the log files so I could go to the Police with a good case!
I did go to the Police -Sunny dollars were fined a small amount for having programmes stolen from my computers - They had even hacked past my firewall!

Sunny dollars, by now were getting very well known - They had a few more sites and portals - They were growing very, very quickly.

My server move created more problems of hacking - I phoned xxxwebhosting and was informed by a tech that a rootkit had been found on my server (I had, at that time, never heard of a rootkit)!
I phoned Phil, the owner - I told him who was certainly behind this -
He then phoned back saying sunny dollars has several servers with him and it couldn't be those - In short - he told me to f*** off!

Another server move - This time, I told the new company all about what has been happening and they took special attention of all of my servers - After a week, Todd, of simplecom.net came back to me with this comment:
"In all the years I have been working on servers, I have never seen servers come in for as much hacking as yours - We now empl0y a server security expert who has built our servers into a fortress!

More about Sunny Dollars -
1) The original hacking of my stats page at ccbill got them thousands of email address to both members and webmasters of my program.
2) After a very short time, they had top 50 sites and webmaster portals and of course, the own webmaster programme - All of these places webmasters have to give a user and password - How many other webmasters have had their members emails downloaded?
3) Sunny dollars came out with certain scripts which they claim to have written (traffic traders, email db etc - All in their first few months of operation? A cj script takes months to write and test -

It doesn't end there, but this is enough for now!
Tomorrow, Sunnydollars will spam the World with thier V3 programme.
Do you trust them?

kronic · 05-30-2003, 06:00 PM

You're not alone.

The hun doesn't trust them either.

Avenue International Jack Greber/Tomasz Grabowski
skr.poczt. 261
66-400 Gorzow Wlkp1
Poland
[email protected] Recieved everything we agreed upon. Advertised with us in 3 occasions, never complained, but charged back every single dollar

bigdog · 05-30-2003, 06:05 PM

hey don't they also run the new email program called http://www.freemagsbucks.com

The Heron · 05-30-2003, 06:07 PM

So I'm thinking that I shouldn't promote thier sites... damn and I even signed up to the new v3!

kronic · 05-30-2003, 06:10 PM

Looks like it.

I knew SunnyJack left sunny dollars. Didn't know where he went-until now.

Although I would have researched the sponsor somewhat before using them and come across Jack's name (and run away very fast), thanks for the headsup bigdog

easyfun · 05-30-2003, 06:15 PM

They are supposed to be apart now -
But the Hun thing is quite strange - Never heard of this Grabowski guy - It was always Pawel and Krystof Slawynsky + Greber.

Slawynsky has the face of an ass - When ever he is asked about what he did to me, his stock answer is he is taking me to court for slander!!!

I am straight - So I tell it as it was - If They did that to someone who saved them from going bust - What will they do to joe average?

Simple village people who craves money more than anything

Theo · 05-30-2003, 06:15 PM

Mr.Fiction · 05-30-2003, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
holy

shit

easyfun · 05-31-2003, 03:47 PM

Sorry guys - Gotta bump this and keep it high for June 1st!

Dildozer · 05-31-2003, 04:04 PM

Dayum!!!!

V3 sucks ass IMO, no wonder my conversions have been sucking ass lately

loverboy · 05-31-2003, 04:05 PM

Calvinguy · 05-31-2003, 04:13 PM

I think they run http://www.not4kidsdesigns.com/ also

JamesK · 05-31-2003, 04:19 PM

oh please someone hire me to take these guys out

OneHungLo · 05-31-2003, 05:43 PM

i scanned thru this post quickly...first i noticed these strange names "Jacek" "Pawel" and "Krzystof"

then i noticed "I had been ripped off "

I dont even need to read thru it all to know what happened.

Dont do business with anyone with a russin sounding name.

Dildozer · 05-31-2003, 08:55 PM

weird i'm bumping this to hear the other side of the story

Why · 05-31-2003, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OneHungLo
i scanned thru this post quickly...first i noticed these strange names "Jacek" "Pawel" and "Krzystof"

then i noticed "I had been ripped off "

I dont even need to read thru it all to know what happened.

Dont do business with anyone with a russin sounding name.

hahhahahahaha

easyfun · 05-31-2003, 11:33 PM

Quote:

weird i'm bumping this to hear the other side of the story

Fairy easy to get a 3rd view on this:
Before I met them, their site - wideavenue.com was on bigbiz servers - They did a runner from there, too -
When we did the smokingfetish.net project, I put the ste on my server at candid hosting - It was candid hosting warned me that these guys ip was beginning to show up on parts of my server where they shouldn't have been - And it was candid hosting who kicked off the sunny dollar crew -

And going by dates - checking whois - You can see my sites (the ones mentioned above) were bought several years ago - These guys bought theirs in 2000

Slawynsky's philosophy is simple - If I can't have it, I will steel it.

On the other hand - This crew has done a good marketing job - Seconed to none - With that sort of ability, why steal or lie? Just makes no sense -

Anothers · 06-01-2003, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyfun
At that, ok, I had been ripped off - Put it down to Polish mentallity or something like that!

i understand ripped off, but please don't call it "Polish mentallity"

(almost) everyone is talking something like "Polish (or any East Europe country webmasters) mentallity"

i know some Polish webmasters has been cheating (non eng traffic, stollen content etc. etc.) but because of some fuckers i had to read "... Poland ... not allowed ..." or "... banned countries ... Poland ..." like -> ars,adult (and some other) terms

regards

Trax · 06-01-2003, 04:01 AM

easyfun · 06-01-2003, 04:15 AM

Quote:

i understand ripped off, but please don't call it "Polish mentallity"

You are right - Sorry about that - It isn't always intelligent to generalize -

I have many friends who are Polish webmasters - So I gotta say sorry to them, too.

Unfortunately, so many scams have come from this part of the World that good guys have been tarred with the same brush

psyko514 · 06-01-2003, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OneHungLo
i scanned thru this post quickly...first i noticed these strange names "Jacek" "Pawel" and "Krzystof"

then i noticed "I had been ripped off "

I dont even need to read thru it all to know what happened.

Dont do business with anyone with a russin sounding name.

All three of those are common Polish names. Polish for Jack, Paul and Christopher. They ain't russiAn.

Sausage · 06-01-2003, 05:21 AM

Man ... I have heard some stories about Sunnydollars that would make Lensman blush

You keep as far away from these guys as possible. I certianly wouldn't want their attention on me .... rip your business from under you.

Get ya hands on one of the little fuckers, you could cause some harm, but online whoever they have doing their hacking is very talented !

croif · 06-01-2003, 06:08 AM

Bump!

yall · 06-01-2003, 06:31 AM

Fuck the legal system, if those cock sucker ever came near me with such crap, I would pop their knee caps off with a wrench. Put me in jail, I dont care, as long as you're handicapped for life.

Porn Mickey · 06-01-2003, 08:19 AM

well, sounds interesting... so mr easyfun, can you prove it all and what exactly you want from them?

easyfun · 06-01-2003, 08:28 AM

Quote:

well, sounds interesting... so mr easyfun, can you prove it all and what exactly you want from them?

In another thread, sd say they are taking legal action -
Can I prove it -
ccbill have all the evidence of what they did -
That is enough to show what sort of things sunny dollars can do.
Have they done similar stunts to other webmasters who didn't find out?
This, I don't know - I can only guess at.

Pennywize.com has a page of recs - Mine was posted over two and a half years ago and is still there today -

What do I want?

I want them tried for hacking - Nothing more, nothing less.

Porn Mickey · 06-01-2003, 11:37 PM

Mr. S. Jack said that both sides have got rights and both sides are liyng (You & SD) ...

easyfun · 06-02-2003, 01:39 AM

I think Sunny Jack is using the fence very unwisely

05-30-2003, 05:22 PM	#1
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	to sunny jack and sunny dollars I am often asked wy I flame these cretins - Here is why) Dec 1999 I received an email from Jacek Greber. He and two friends had a website called www.wideavenue.com and had all but lost their money. They asked me to help them. Me and my wife decided to come to Poland to talk to these guys - (I had previously met Jacek as my wife comes from the same City) I agreed with Jacek, Pawel and Krzystof Slawynskie (Jaqcek's two partners who I had never previously known) to fund a project and for me to take a background roll - I purchased two domains smokingfetish.net and smoking-fetish.net - Took loads of photo's and videos of models, and we set up a smoking fetish site with the second site meant to be used as a free feeder. I gave the three guys directions in how to get traffic to the sites. (I also paid for many programmes and even gave them a car to help get around) Ccbill were to act as ccp (I had been with ccbill for a few years, but we set this up as a new account) The smoking site took off - Our first week saw close to a hundred members join. This was early April 2000. Two weeks later, the three guys simply disappeared. I tried to check the ccbill account - All passwords had been changed. The domain registrar password had also been changed and the whois showed a false name. At that, ok, I had been ripped off - Put it down to Polish mentallity or something like that! In August 2000 I saw The Slawynsky brothers with a guy called Przybylsky - A very well known hacker and program cracker - All three ran away! Late August, I was working at my computers when a member wrote asking me to stop spamming about my other legshow sites (I have owned legshow since 1996) I wrote back saying a) I don't spam and B) I only have legshow.net - Later that day I had other similar letters about a balloon fetish site of mine - I was the first person to run a balloon fetish site - also 1996) This time I was given the name of the site - www.balloon-show.com - I had never heard of it - I visited the site and was blocked via htaccess - instead another page came up and written in polish was this headline: We used you and we will fuck you). I realised they had simply copied the balloon fetish idea from me - I then found legshowgirls and legshow amateurs - Two more copies of my legshow site. But how were sunny dollars able to write to my members? I went to my ccbill stats page to change the password - and found over 450 members had cancelled since the previous day! Changed password and wrote to ccbill (Tom Fisher) - I then heard from a guy called Mark (Risk analyst engineer) Logs showed another Polish ip had entered my stats over 500 times from JANUARY 2000 !!! I knew this static ip to be Sunny Dollars. Fisher put me in touch with Kim (kimmykim) She was to take care of this for me - I waited - Days turned into weeks. During this time my server was so badly hacked that 1) Thousands of galleries were deleted or removed. Images swapped. etc. 2) I was now no longer able to ftp even. 3) Galleries had been uploaded containing images which were not mine I finally got back to Kimmykim - I was told the stats page being hacked was my own fault and she point blank refused to hand over the log files so I could go to the Police with a good case! I did go to the Police -Sunny dollars were fined a small amount for having programmes stolen from my computers - They had even hacked past my firewall! Sunny dollars, by now were getting very well known - They had a few more sites and portals - They were growing very, very quickly. My server move created more problems of hacking - I phoned xxxwebhosting and was informed by a tech that a rootkit had been found on my server (I had, at that time, never heard of a rootkit)! I phoned Phil, the owner - I told him who was certainly behind this - He then phoned back saying sunny dollars has several servers with him and it couldn't be those - In short - he told me to f*** off! Another server move - This time, I told the new company all about what has been happening and they took special attention of all of my servers - After a week, Todd, of simplecom.net came back to me with this comment: "In all the years I have been working on servers, I have never seen servers come in for as much hacking as yours - We now empl0y a server security expert who has built our servers into a fortress! More about Sunny Dollars - 1) The original hacking of my stats page at ccbill got them thousands of email address to both members and webmasters of my program. 2) After a very short time, they had top 50 sites and webmaster portals and of course, the own webmaster programme - All of these places webmasters have to give a user and password - How many other webmasters have had their members emails downloaded? 3) Sunny dollars came out with certain scripts which they claim to have written (traffic traders, email db etc - All in their first few months of operation? A cj script takes months to write and test - It doesn't end there, but this is enough for now! Tomorrow, Sunnydollars will spam the World with thier V3 programme. Do you trust them? __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

05-30-2003, 06:15 PM	#6
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	They are supposed to be apart now - But the Hun thing is quite strange - Never heard of this Grabowski guy - It was always Pawel and Krystof Slawynsky + Greber. Slawynsky has the face of an ass - When ever he is asked about what he did to me, his stock answer is he is taking me to court for slander!!! I am straight - So I tell it as it was - If They did that to someone who saved them from going bust - What will they do to joe average? Simple village people who craves money more than anything __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

05-31-2003, 03:47 PM	#9
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	Sorry guys - Gotta bump this and keep it high for June 1st! __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

05-31-2003, 04:04 PM	#10
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Dayum!!!! V3 sucks ass IMO, no wonder my conversions have been sucking ass lately __________________ Spam link here

05-31-2003, 04:05 PM	#11
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	omg

05-30-2003, 06:00 PM	#2
kronic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 964	You're not alone. The hun doesn't trust them either. Avenue International Jack Greber/Tomasz Grabowski skr.poczt. 261 66-400 Gorzow Wlkp1 Poland [email protected] Recieved everything we agreed upon. Advertised with us in 3 occasions, never complained, but charged back every single dollar

05-30-2003, 06:05 PM	#3
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	hey don't they also run the new email program called http://www.freemagsbucks.com

05-30-2003, 06:07 PM	#4
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	So I'm thinking that I shouldn't promote thier sites... damn and I even signed up to the new v3!

05-30-2003, 06:10 PM	#5
kronic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 964	Looks like it. I knew SunnyJack left sunny dollars. Didn't know where he went-until now. Although I would have researched the sponsor somewhat before using them and come across Jack's name (and run away very fast), thanks for the headsup bigdog

05-30-2003, 06:15 PM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	holy

05-31-2003, 04:13 PM	#12
Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	I think they run http://www.not4kidsdesigns.com/ also

05-31-2003, 04:19 PM	#13
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05-31-2003, 05:43 PM	#14
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	i scanned thru this post quickly...first i noticed these strange names "Jacek" "Pawel" and "Krzystof" then i noticed "I had been ripped off " I dont even need to read thru it all to know what happened. Dont do business with anyone with a russin sounding name.

05-31-2003, 08:55 PM	#15
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06-01-2003, 05:21 AM	#22
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Man ... I have heard some stories about Sunnydollars that would make Lensman blush You keep as far away from these guys as possible. I certianly wouldn't want their attention on me .... rip your business from under you. Get ya hands on one of the little fuckers, you could cause some harm, but online whoever they have doing their hacking is very talented ! __________________ IW Skype : blance8888 Icq : 15567120

06-01-2003, 06:08 AM	#23
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06-01-2003, 06:31 AM	#24
yall Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 175	Fuck the legal system, if those cock sucker ever came near me with such crap, I would pop their knee caps off with a wrench. Put me in jail, I dont care, as long as you're handicapped for life.

06-01-2003, 08:19 AM	#25
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06-01-2003, 11:37 PM	#27
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06-02-2003, 01:39 AM	#28
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	I think Sunny Jack is using the fence very unwisely __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>