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  • gregdumas
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 144
    #1

    Chaturbate - Long-Tail Rev Share Removed

    I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

    I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

    My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

    Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

    Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.
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    • Shoplifter
      Richest man in Babylon
      • Jan 2002
      • 5844
      #2
      I have been looking at White Label tracking and revenue and what has happened since February and have a similar situation.

      Looking carefully at my stats and I find the only spenders who are not from 2025 are either "embed" or have my Chaturbate site affiliate ID and are not from White Labels. It's almost as if they have lost their grip on White Label tracking.

      If you are a valued affiliate and have their ear I would email support. When someone like myself emails I just get a form letter back.

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        • blackmonsters
          Making PHP work
          • Nov 2002
          • 20961
          #3
          Maybe part of it is age verification.
          People from states that passed these laws are blocked until AV is done.
          Having AV for every white label would be difficult.

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            • gregdumas
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2004
              • 144
              #4
              They changed how they associate a user with the originating affiliate recently. Since they did that, any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.

              For example, if you had a user who started buying from Chaturbate in 2023 and the user then returned to Chaturbate.com, you would still get credit for that user. The new system is different. If that user doesn't use your link or white label after already purchasing from Chaturbate, you won't receive any commissions from that user anymore.

              To further example, if you sent traffic from sexygirls.com then the user purchases from Chaturbate.com then all communication is from Chaturbate.com and the user forgets that he ever went to sexygirls.com. The prior system counted those sales so it wasn't a problem. Their new system does not.

              I lost 84% of my revenue because I had links and white labels from 2014 so the recurring revenue was large and consistent. They basically chose to keep all my recurring revenue from a revenue share program. That's the opposite of how a revenue share program is supposed to work.

              I have contacted them many times at the highest levels and no replies.
              Greg Dumas
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                • gregdumas
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 144
                  #5
                  Originally posted by blackmonsters
                  Maybe part of it is age verification.
                  People from states that passed these laws are blocked until AV is done.
                  Having AV for every white label would be difficult.

                  This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with recurring revenue.
                  Greg Dumas
                  https://www.domainoptions.com
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                    • emmasexytime
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 4512
                      #6
                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                      They changed how they associate a user with the originating affiliate recently. Since they did that, any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.

                      For example, if you had a user who started buying from Chaturbate in 2023 and the user then returned to Chaturbate.com, you would still get credit for that user. The new system is different. If that user doesn't use your link or white label after already purchasing from Chaturbate, you won't receive any commissions from that user anymore.

                      To further example, if you sent traffic from sexygirls.com then the user purchases from Chaturbate.com then all communication is from Chaturbate.com and the user forgets that he ever went to sexygirls.com. The prior system counted those sales so it wasn't a problem. Their new system does not.

                      I lost 84% of my revenue because I had links and white labels from 2014 so the recurring revenue was large and consistent. They basically chose to keep all my recurring revenue from a revenue share program. That's the opposite of how a revenue share program is supposed to work.

                      I have contacted them many times at the highest levels and no replies.
                      How do you know this change? Have you tested it?
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                        • blackmonsters
                          Making PHP work
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 20961
                          #7
                          Originally posted by gregdumas
                          This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with recurring revenue.
                          Well, if someone joined a year ago and doesn't want to do AV; then I don't know how
                          they can keep spending so you get their recurring.

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                            • Shoplifter
                              Richest man in Babylon
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 5844
                              #8
                              Originally posted by gregdumas
                              any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.
                              There's a new way?

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                                • gregdumas
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 144
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                  There's a new way?
                                  You can only get their recurring if they can access the site. That's not the problem here. Very different problem.
                                  Greg Dumas
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                                    • gregdumas
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 144
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                                      You can only get their recurring if they can access the site. That's not the problem here. Very different problem.
                                      I am really surprised no one has seen a change in their new vs recurring revenue. I spoke to another Chaturbate affiliate today and he is having the same problem and wasn't sure why.

                                      They are keeping the recurring revenue from already-tagged users to my affiliate account. It's that easy.
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                                        • money biz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 1016
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by gregdumas
                                          I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

                                          I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

                                          My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

                                          Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

                                          Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.

                                          Have you been an active affiliate? Some programs won't pay your revshare if you don't send new sales after certain time. I know it's crazy but usually listed in the terms.

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                                            • TurboB
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2016
                                              • 1058
                                              #12
                                              What says Chaturbate support?

                                              My stats:

                                              Users from 2017 that registered under my aff link on chaturbate.com, and now uses chaturbate.com directly (without my aff link) - I am credited.

                                              Users from 2017 that registered directly on my whitelabels and now uses them - I am credited.

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                                                • natkejs
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 1640
                                                  #13
                                                  Seeing less sales cause I'm a loser but still have loyal customers on CB from 10 years back so can't complain there.

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                                                    • Speigelau
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                      • 3032
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                      I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

                                                      I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

                                                      My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

                                                      Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

                                                      Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.
                                                      I've been an affiliate since 2013 and have also sent a lot of domain traffic all to whitelabels. In cb-stats I'm still seeing many daily spends from spenders who signed up in 2014 and 2015, so they definitely have not wiped out recurring revenue for long time users. I send very little new traffic and rely almost entirely on past sign ups to bring in recurring revenue. In making an assertion like that, you're going to have to come up with some solid proof. When looking at the metrics of your account in cb-stats, are you telling me that you get zero new spends from spenders who signed up years ago?

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                                                        • gregdumas
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 144
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by money biz
                                                          Have you been an active affiliate? Some programs won't pay your revshare if you don't send new sales after certain time. I know it's crazy but usually listed in the terms.
                                                          1. That's not listed in their terms.
                                                          2. This is recurring revenue that was received until the recent changes in affiliate tracking.

                                                          My opinion? This is an attempt to keep all the past recurring revenue. When my recurring revenue is more than 80%, then it's a significant amount if think of all the affiliates who have been impacted by this change.

                                                          Revenue share is for as long as that affiliate ID is generating revenue. Otherwise, PPS is the other option.
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                                                            • gregdumas
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 144
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Speigelau
                                                              I've been an affiliate since 2013 and have also sent a lot of domain traffic all to whitelabels. In cb-stats I'm still seeing many daily spends from spenders who signed up in 2014 and 2015, so they definitely have not wiped out recurring revenue for long time users. I send very little new traffic and rely almost entirely on past sign ups to bring in recurring revenue. In making an assertion like that, you're going to have to come up with some solid proof. When looking at the metrics of your account in cb-stats, are you telling me that you get zero new spends from spenders who signed up years ago?
                                                              How's this? The affiliate IDs in this example were receiving revenue until they made the changes. Now, these affiliate IDs don't even show up in the stats. This literally happening from one month to another month.

                                                              https://gec.d.pr/i/Yhn9pA
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                                                                • gregdumas
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 144
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by TurboB
                                                                  What says Chaturbate support?

                                                                  My stats:

                                                                  Users from 2017 that registered under my aff link on chaturbate.com, and now uses chaturbate.com directly (without my aff link) - I am credited.

                                                                  Users from 2017 that registered directly on my whitelabels and now uses them - I am credited.
                                                                  Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

                                                                  Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?
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                                                                    • ross bleustein
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2015
                                                                      • 233
                                                                      #18
                                                                      same here

                                                                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                      Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

                                                                      Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?

                                                                      @greg- I'm with you pal, my revenue down 80% alsoi, over 8 years pushing thousands of registrations
                                                                      I even had a monster day, so happy until chargeback

                                                                      Us affiliates took a big one up the poop shoot


                                                                      [email protected]

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                                                                        • gregdumas
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 144
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by ross bleustein
                                                                          @greg- I'm with you pal, my revenue down 80% alsoi, over 8 years pushing thousands of registrations
                                                                          I even had a monster day, so happy until chargeback

                                                                          Us affiliates took a big one up the poop shoot


                                                                          [email protected]
                                                                          Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

                                                                          I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

                                                                          I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.
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                                                                            • 2intense
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Dec 2009
                                                                              • 12493
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                              Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

                                                                              I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

                                                                              I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.
                                                                              They dominate the SERP; they don't give a fuck about affiliates until they get a big hit from google.
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                                                                                • mechanicvirus
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 4219
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                  Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

                                                                                  I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

                                                                                  I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.
                                                                                  Why not switch to cambuilder if you prefer whitelabels?

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                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 34512
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Hey Greg, long time, hope you've been well.

                                                                                      I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels. I'm not seeing a major drop and looking at the individual CSV transactions I'm seeing customers that joined as far back as 2020 who are still actively recurring. I'm unsure if the issue pertains to WL's specifically, but my stats seem ok.

                                                                                      WG
                                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                                        • Speigelau
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2007
                                                                                          • 3032
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                          How's this? The affiliate IDs in this example were receiving revenue until they made the changes. Now, these affiliate IDs don't even show up in the stats. This literally happening from one month to another month.

                                                                                          https://gec.d.pr/i/Yhn9pA
                                                                                          That image doesn't represent anything. It shows no dates, no time frames, how is anyone supposed to derive anything from it? I see one list of totals and then another, is that period over period? I asked you a specific question about your spends and you didn't answer. If there was a dramatic change recently, what date do you believe these changes took place?

                                                                                          The only concerning thing for me is my #1 spender who has spent in excess of 140k for the last 6 years, stopped spending 60 days ago. He has never gone that long without a spend before. I do have other spenders in my top ten who signed up over 10 years ago who are still spending.

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                                                                                            • TurboB
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2016
                                                                                              • 1058
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                              Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

                                                                                              Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?
                                                                                              Here you can't reach anyone from Chaturbate, but I heard you can try ambercutie.com forums and contact member "punker barbie" there.

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                                                                                                • GoCastaway
                                                                                                  Kiss my ass!
                                                                                                  • Feb 2017
                                                                                                  • 1021
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  There are strange things going on at CB, that's for sure.

                                                                                                  But why start this treat as we have this one for CB??

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                                                                                                    • gregdumas
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 144
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Speigelau
                                                                                                      That image doesn't represent anything. It shows no dates, no time frames, how is anyone supposed to derive anything from it? I see one list of totals and then another, is that period over period? I asked you a specific question about your spends and you didn't answer. If there was a dramatic change recently, what date do you believe these changes took place?

                                                                                                      The only concerning thing for me is my #1 spender who has spent in excess of 140k for the last 6 years, stopped spending 60 days ago. He has never gone that long without a spend before. I do have other spenders in my top ten who signed up over 10 years ago who are still spending.
                                                                                                      It was just an example to show 0 traffic with an affiliate ID and revenue associated with it. I wasn't intending on giving any context other than that. It's not necessary to understand the problem. The point I am trying to make is that the revenue you see in that example doesn't exist anymore and those affiliate IDs are $0. That's strange.
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                                                                                                        • gregdumas
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                          • 144
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                          Hey Greg, long time, hope you've been well.

                                                                                                          I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels. I'm not seeing a major drop and looking at the individual CSV transactions I'm seeing customers that joined as far back as 2020 who are still actively recurring. I'm unsure if the issue pertains to WL's specifically, but my stats seem ok.

                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                          Hey back, long time for sure. I am still here....

                                                                                                          I don't know what's going on over at CB but I am starting to explore other options. I am getting such a mix of replies that I can't determine anything.
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                                                                                                            • gregdumas
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                              • 144
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                                                                              Why not switch to cambuilder if you prefer whitelabels?
                                                                                                              I am starting some tests with them now. I have a lot of domains so white labels are easy for me.
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                                                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                  • 22351
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                                                  I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.
                                                                                                                  I have been posting about this for at least 8 years, CB has never demonstrated that they care about affiiliates.

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                                                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 34512
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                                                      Hey back, long time for sure. I am still here....

                                                                                                                      I don't know what's going on over at CB but I am starting to explore other options. I am getting such a mix of replies that I can't determine anything.
                                                                                                                      I tried to diversify with CamBuilder at the start of the year but it was nothing but problems. Their XML tracking didn't work for several weeks and two test campaigns had terrible results. Sad to say there haven't been many good alternatives lately.
                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                        • Speigelau
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                          • 3032
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                                                          It was just an example to show 0 traffic with an affiliate ID and revenue associated with it. I wasn't intending on giving any context other than that. It's not necessary to understand the problem. The point I am trying to make is that the revenue you see in that example doesn't exist anymore and those affiliate IDs are $0. That's strange.
                                                                                                                          Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

                                                                                                                          2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.

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                                                                                                                            • Christianx
                                                                                                                              Rubber Duck Collector
                                                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                              • 159
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

                                                                                                                              Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this
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                                                                                                                                • LouiseLloyd
                                                                                                                                  SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2010
                                                                                                                                  • 1429
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Christianx
                                                                                                                                  this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

                                                                                                                                  Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this
                                                                                                                                  Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

                                                                                                                                  I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.

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                                                                                                                                    • mechanicvirus
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 4219
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by LouiseLloyd
                                                                                                                                      Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

                                                                                                                                      I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.
                                                                                                                                      This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"

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                                                                                                                                        • LouiseLloyd
                                                                                                                                          SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2010
                                                                                                                                          • 1429
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                                                                                                          This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"
                                                                                                                                          I am not disputing that there certainly appears to be issues, well the number of claims back that up, but having never used whitelabel as a promo method I am not seeing anything that backs up the claim that revshare terms have changed…

                                                                                                                                          Yesterday my biggest spender was from 2016!

                                                                                                                                          I think the tracking switchover may have resulted in some issues. I too have vented my frustration in this thread, but to make a claim the CB is doing an OF and the terms of the revshare program have changed, I'm sorry my stats don't substantiate that claim.

                                                                                                                                          If I do see this, I will certainly have the bottle to come here and say it's true.

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                                                                                                                                            • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                              Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 5844
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                                                                                                              This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"
                                                                                                                                              Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

                                                                                                                                              If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

                                                                                                                                              At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

                                                                                                                                              As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

                                                                                                                                              I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

                                                                                                                                              I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.

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                                                                                                                                                • emmasexytime
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2015
                                                                                                                                                  • 4512
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  To test this you would need to have a whitelabel that has had many sign ups in the past, now not be a whitelabel, so you could assume if any sales there were now being done through chaturbate .com

                                                                                                                                                  Sometimes people think the real site is the whitelabel so would never know about chaturbate, but there would be some that end up on chaturbate. Wouldn't they still have the same log in details on chaturbate as their old whitelabel login?
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                                                                                                                                                    • mopek1
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 3192
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy

                                                                                                                                                      I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels.
                                                                                                                                                      Is this targeted webcam traffic or just general adult traffic?

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                                                                                                                                                        • Jman
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 22837
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?
                                                                                                                                                          Orkestrait NSFW AI
                                                                                                                                                          FantasyXXX.AI
                                                                                                                                                          Email: [email protected] TG: @jman1216

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                                                                                                                                                            • lemonlinx
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2025
                                                                                                                                                              • 169
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              If I sign in to Chaturbate with my account, I can also sign in with that account on my whitelabels, it works without any issues

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                                                                                                                                                                • gregdumas
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 144
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jman
                                                                                                                                                                  Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?
                                                                                                                                                                  I sent you an DM on TG
                                                                                                                                                                  Greg Dumas
                                                                                                                                                                  https://www.domainoptions.com
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                                                                                                                                                                    • gregdumas
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 144
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                                      I tried to diversify with CamBuilder at the start of the year but it was nothing but problems. Their XML tracking didn't work for several weeks and two test campaigns had terrible results. Sad to say there haven't been many good alternatives lately.
                                                                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                                                                      This is discouraging because I just created about 30 white labels on Cambuilder. It's not enough time for results but now you have me worried.

                                                                                                                                                                      Any thoughts on Stripcash?
                                                                                                                                                                      Greg Dumas
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                                                                                                                                                                        • gregdumas
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 144
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

                                                                                                                                                                          If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

                                                                                                                                                                          At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

                                                                                                                                                                          As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

                                                                                                                                                                          I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

                                                                                                                                                                          I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.
                                                                                                                                                                          This is part of the problem. The communication from the company is horrible. I get a better response trying to contact a govt agency. If I could just get someone there to understand what's going on with MY SITUATION which I am sure many others are having too. I'd be happy to post the solution or lack thereof.

                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, it's communication but it's also the fact that they completely eliminated revenue that was there one pay period and not there the following pay period. It just disappeared like it never existed. I know it's because of their change to tracking affiliates but they should have considered the revenue that was generated by old affiliate IDs that don't get new traffic to the affiliate link but are tracked by their system to allocate the payouts accordingly. That's the problem.

                                                                                                                                                                          This isn't a small amount of revenue, gross or net. It might be accidental but it's a complete violation to the entire business model of revenue sharing. And the fact that no one will at least listen only makes it worse.
                                                                                                                                                                          Greg Dumas
                                                                                                                                                                          https://www.domainoptions.com
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                                                                                                                                                                            • gregdumas
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 144
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Speigelau
                                                                                                                                                                              Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

                                                                                                                                                                              2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.
                                                                                                                                                                              With all respect, I don't think you understand what I am trying to say here. I am not publicly displaying my stats but I can say that it's more than 80% of my overall affiliate revenue. I said it in a prior post. They're not crediting affiliates with revenue that isn't generated by active links. They are withholding the revenue from users who were tagged to an affiliate long before these changes. Plus, no one responds.
                                                                                                                                                                              Greg Dumas
                                                                                                                                                                              https://www.domainoptions.com
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                                                                                                                                                                                • mainstreammix
                                                                                                                                                                                  Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2022
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 11191
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  I really hope it's a mistake. Never used the white labels enough to check and normal stats are fine but these guys have been paying fair since the free site days. Must have recommended it to 1000+ people by now as an example of a legit company.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • lemonlinx
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2025
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 169
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      So, is it better to send to whitelabel or directly to CB?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • natkejs
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1640
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I dunno man, you're coming with some big accusations without anything that shows how you came to this conclusion.

                                                                                                                                                                                          In my own case I have whitelabels that are 10 years old and have no traffic anymore but still make money. 0 engaged hits but revenue still adding up.

                                                                                                                                                                                          It doesn't check out with your claims.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • itx
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 980
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Hello guys, I register a test account in my Whitelabel and appears in the stats. The global situation due the war and cheap politics, is not good is the first time that i say this, if you still belive in the Chaturbate affiliate program need to push harder to find the fishes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • SecretEmpire
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2023
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 56
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Chaturbate, like every other adult affiliate program, does not give a flying fuck about you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Speigelau
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3032
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gregdumas
                                                                                                                                                                                                      With all respect, I don't think you understand what I am trying to say here. I am not publicly displaying my stats but I can say that it's more than 80% of my overall affiliate revenue. I said it in a prior post. They're not crediting affiliates with revenue that isn't generated by active links. They are withholding the revenue from users who were tagged to an affiliate long before these changes. Plus, no one responds.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I know exactly what you're trying to say here and it's 100% false. I have had hundreds of spends the last 2 months on multiple white labels from users who signed up 7+ years ago, some as far back as 2013. You continue to recite a lie by stating that CB is not crediting new sales from past referrals.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I never asked you to post your stats, I asked some simple questions that might help me better understand your user base and what kind of volume you are doing and a possible reason for your sudden downturn in sales and you didn't answer any of them. I've helped dozens of affiliates better understand their accounts and figure out issues with their stats.

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