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Old 01-07-2025, 09:23 AM   #1
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YNOt Mail (questions about)

I'm thinking of trying out YNOT Mail:

https://www.ynotmail.com/

I want to send some discounts to all ex-members of my sites and have a big email contact list. In the past I've done this from the webmaster email address, sending out 100's at a time using the BCC function. I have found that a lot of the emails I send get blocked or not even delivered. Maybe our webmaster email addresses are getting reported for spam as I notice a lot of times when we send emails or reply to emails from our webmaster email accounts they go to spam or don't even get delivered.

Do you think if I used YNOT Mail more of my emails would get through? Does anyone use YNOT mail? Is it easy to use and would you recommend it?
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:43 AM   #2
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i've never used it because the guy that runs it is really annoying
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i've never used it because the guy that runs it is really annoying
Very helpful! Thanks.
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why not.....
Yes, that is the question. Maybe there are some alternatives that members can recommend as well.
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how many email addresses gmail or other emailing´s allowed to send out to in one shot without it notifying spam?
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I've used them in the past a few times and it was very good. Richard was extremely helpful and knew what he was doing and the system returned all the data I needed. Easy and affordable. Try it.
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I've used them in the past a few times and it was very good. Richard was extremely helpful and knew what he was doing and the system returned all the data I needed. Easy and affordable. Try it.
I second this. The issue with emails is it is easy to get blacklisted so that the emails do not even get through. But YNOT has filters and guidelines that work well. Check them out.
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I second this. The issue with emails is it is easy to get blacklisted so that the emails do not even get through. But YNOT has filters and guidelines that work well. Check them out.
I'll give them a go. Thanks for the reply. If I use them then a lot more of emails will get through. It's cheap enough to try it out so I'll do that very soon.
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I've used them in the past a few times and it was very good. Richard was extremely helpful and knew what he was doing and the system returned all the data I needed. Easy and affordable. Try it.
Thanks. I'll give them a try then. Nothing to lose as it's cheap enough. I'll know how good they are when I see how successful my discount campaign is. I just know if I send all the emails through my webmaster email account a lot will get blocked or reported as spam.
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i've never used it because the guy that runs it is really annoying
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I'm thinking of trying out YNOT Mail:

https://www.ynotmail.com/

I want to send some discounts to all ex-members of my sites and have a big email contact list. In the past I've done this from the webmaster email address, sending out 100's at a time using the BCC function. I have found that a lot of the emails I send get blocked or not even delivered. Maybe our webmaster email addresses are getting reported for spam as I notice a lot of times when we send emails or reply to emails from our webmaster email accounts they go to spam or don't even get delivered.

Do you think if I used YNOT Mail more of my emails would get through? Does anyone use YNOT mail? Is it easy to use and would you recommend it?
Hit me up directly and I will see how I can help you.
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I got a promotion for YNOT Mail last week and it ended up in my spam box so that pretty much tells you everything you need to know.


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I'm thinking of trying out YNOT Mail:

https://www.ynotmail.com/

I want to send some discounts to all ex-members of my sites and have a big email contact list. In the past I've done this from the webmaster email address, sending out 100's at a time using the BCC function. I have found that a lot of the emails I send get blocked or not even delivered. Maybe our webmaster email addresses are getting reported for spam as I notice a lot of times when we send emails or reply to emails from our webmaster email accounts they go to spam or don't even get delivered.

Do you think if I used YNOT Mail more of my emails would get through? Does anyone use YNOT mail? Is it easy to use and would you recommend it?
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Inboxing has more to do with how your subscribers engage with your emails and your sender reputation than the platform you send from.
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I had a client with a mainstream mail service. Despite having no nudity (or photos of people at all) the account got banned after about two or three e-mails.

We got an account with YNOTmail and sent out newsletters for about a year or two, then the mainstream service merged with the shopping service and the mainstream site asked us to come back. After a couple of e-mails, we once again got hit, this time with an odd freeze on a block of e-mail addresses. The client had enough and we went back to YNOTmail.

The major advantage with YNOT is, if something isn't right, Rochard will work with you.

To be candid, in contrast to modern newsletter mail services, the system is a little old. It's not a drag and drop kind of user interface where the bot does everything for you, and I'm ok with that. I had to pull out my HTML book remember how to do tables and rows. But I've got the hang of it.
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I had a client with a mainstream mail service. Despite having no nudity (or photos of people at all) the account got banned after about two or three e-mails.

We got an account with YNOTmail and sent out newsletters for about a year or two, then the mainstream service merged with the shopping service and the mainstream site asked us to come back. After a couple of e-mails, we once again got hit, this time with an odd freeze on a block of e-mail addresses. The client had enough and we went back to YNOTmail.

The major advantage with YNOT is, if something isn't right, Rochard will work with you.

To be candid, in contrast to modern newsletter mail services, the system is a little old. It's not a drag and drop kind of user interface where the bot does everything for you, and I'm ok with that. I had to pull out my HTML book remember how to do tables and rows. But I've got the hang of it.
I wonder if it's not worth it to YNOT to upgrade their interface.

Then again, CCBill - which is making bank with OnlyFans - somehow thinks their Admin from 1999 is fine. LOL

Things move so fast these days it would be nice if those companies that are still around would upgrade their sites.
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But getting out of the SES Sandbox with adult content ain't that easy?
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I had a client with a mainstream mail service. Despite having no nudity (or photos of people at all) the account got banned after about two or three e-mails.

We got an account with YNOTmail and sent out newsletters for about a year or two, then the mainstream service merged with the shopping service and the mainstream site asked us to come back. After a couple of e-mails, we once again got hit, this time with an odd freeze on a block of e-mail addresses. The client had enough and we went back to YNOTmail.

The major advantage with YNOT is, if something isn't right, Rochard will work with you.

To be candid, in contrast to modern newsletter mail services, the system is a little old. It's not a drag and drop kind of user interface where the bot does everything for you, and I'm ok with that. I had to pull out my HTML book remember how to do tables and rows. But I've got the hang of it.
Thank you for the kind words.

We have looked into upgrading our interface but it would take a lot of development time. I wish we would do this. I will push for it again.
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Aren't they still just using a branded copy of Interspire?
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But getting out of the SES Sandbox with adult content ain't that easy?
I have not been able to get any sites approved by SES in like 7-8 years.
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A professional email delivery platform is a must. Pro SaaS platforms will handle all the technical aspects out of the box (e.g. DMARC, SPF, Unsub, complaint management, bounces/undeliverables, view/URL tracking...list goes on). And, the cost is minimal compared to what is occurring behind the scenes, which can never be achieved through a standard email network.

However, at the end of the day, inboxing and response rates are directly related to the sender's reputation. Delivery reputation is something that is built not purchased. AND, the receiving networks are the ones that determine your reputation score. If you are serious about reputation, avoid shared/pooled IP networks. With three decades of experience in this industry, I would argue a sender absolutely must have their own delivery IP and sending domain. This creates a neutral starting point, which allows accurate monitoring.

From there, to improve and refine your reputation will require ongoing monitoring of your campaigns. There is no silver bullet to good reputation. It is a constant grind if you want to avoid being blocked and achieve decent response rates from your contacts.
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For my clients, I have set them up with either Sendy or PHPList and an MTA that doesn't care about adult content. If you keep an eye on bounce rates, and ensure that things are processed correctly, both of these self-hosted applications are exceedingly capable.

I used to get approvals via SES, but over the past few years, it has been very difficult.

I think the grand total cost per month for something self-hosted is like $35-50 to send about a hundred thousand emails.

For email templates I will put together MJML designs and those have good universal acceptance by clients.

I did have some luck sending mails from a mainstream provider, as long as there was absolutely no nudity or overt sexual content, but it's been a while. It's really not worth testing those waters unless you really want to.
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Yes, we are using a heavily modified version of Interspire. Most of the modifications we've made are on the backend.

You could buy the software, install it, do it yourself, and hope you don't fuck things up too bad. But if you fuck things up you are on your own and it's difficult to undo the damage you've done.
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Does YNOT perform the same function as a provider like sendgrid? I notice that ImLive seem to use sendgrid for their emails?

Would an email template designer such as Stripo work with YNOT?
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