Why do 99% of the people offering hosted galleries play games? - Page 5 - GoFuckYourself.com

Hooper · 05-30-2003, 12:31 AM

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if I was worried about shear volume of surfers on sleazydream I'd install the UCJC trafic trading script and have about 50% more traffic than I already do.

I wasnt referring to volume of traffic. I asked you about volume of bookmarkers.

My guess is that nobody actually has any numbers to back up their assumptions.

Tam · 05-30-2003, 12:40 AM

Hi Sleazy, wow...... haven't talked to you in a long time. Hope you have been doing well sweetie. ;)

I just thought I'd pop my head in here and let you know that we have popup free galleries on www.pibcash.com

You can see them on www.pibgalleries.com
Samples:
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/lfre...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/real...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/tonic/index.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/dcgi...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/bbwl...ndex.php?uid=6

We don't have any pops on anything anywhere on any of our sites unless YOU choose to have them. But on the hosted galleries there isn't one anywhere. ALL codes are yours and yours alone. As you can see they are clean and not over ridden with any garbage. We had these made with TGPs in mind..... ;)

seven · 05-30-2003, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by berg.the.red
as for sponsor galleries with pop-ups/console hells ... if a gallery submitter can expect to be banned, black listed and possibly publicly ridiculed on some webmaster board for posting a gallery with a pop-up or what-not - what does it say about the site and the site owner when that same submitter sees a gallery listed ( sponsor provided we'll assume ) that does the same thing he just got hammered for ? site owners have certain rules we have to play by too.

So who are those sposnors that have "Galleries" with pop-ups/console hells? Please name them cos I haven't come across any such sponsor gallery yet. Also you could prolly spare me some of that TGP rules lecture cos maybe I own more TGPs myself than you know

fantasyman · 05-30-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by berg.the.red

and it's good to see CE Cash is willing to work with some webmasters ...

berg.the.red

CE has been working with Webmasters very closely forever. If you ever visit our Webmaster board http://cewebmasters.com you will see that. We react very quick to suggestions, ideas, etc.

Yesterday's result of this thread is evidence of how quickly we will move!!

Also, our 60% partner program pays $25.48 for every sign up and rebill - this is a very lofty payout!!

berg.the.red · 05-30-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

berg.the.red

CE has been working with Webmasters very closely forever. If you ever visit our Webmaster board http://cewebmasters.com you will see that. We react very quick to suggestions, ideas, etc.

Yes - MikeB worked very closely with me about setting up a no console link for the XXX mags program on one of my TGP sites that i designed around those 234x60 CE Mag Banners. since i don't have the traffic volume of theHun or SleazyDream - i pretty much got "blown off". i've since replaced most of the CE banners with WEG banners ( who doesn't have as serious a "cut" for CF ) and i'll probably "dick up" the site design and replace the remaining ones some time soon ...

i did say some in my original post.

berg.the.red · 05-30-2003, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by seven
Also you could prolly spare me some of that TGP rules lecture cos maybe I own more TGPs myself than you know

i don't remember starting my post with: Seven - pay attention to this part ...

seven · 05-30-2003, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by berg.the.red
i don't remember starting my post with: Seven - pay attention to this part ...

awh.. since you started the post quoting me atop thought you were saying that to me too.. my bad

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars
Sleazy one question.

Would you mind a pop up that offers a trial from a one month only tour?

"hey wait try us for $4.95 for 3 days"

On a partnership program ofcourse.

I only ask because we are having so many webmasters sending to the no trial option of our sites and more than half the joins are one monthers but I still like to catch the trial guys on exits

i use pre-paid

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper

I wasnt referring to volume of traffic. I asked you about volume of bookmarkers.

My guess is that nobody actually has any numbers to back up their assumptions.

i watch my daily bookmark count as it's told to me by my stats. I know - not day to day - but month to month that the cleaner my site is the more traffic via typeins and bookmarks I seem to get. it doesn't seem to affect trades one way or the other though, and my sales don't seem to be effected by large increses in traded traffic.

in the TGP game you need to get infront of the surfer FIRST - that day. How do I know this - by my own sales and the fact that people pay HUGE dollars for the TOP/FIRST listings on TGPs and don't care about the rest. why? casue it's the first link a NEW surfer - a bookmarked or type in one - sees. - a traded surfer has sceen a ton of porn that day already and is really only good if they bookmark the site and come back another day FRESH- least that's my experience has told me and how the ENTIRE industry BUYS traffic on the most part.

but you may be right - we might all be stupid and don't have a clue what we are doing.

course if your business is about making money today at the expense of any future traffic tomorrow I'd TOTALLY agree with the idea of pounding the hell outa the traffic.

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

Yesterday's result of this thread is evidence of how quickly we will move!!

first class operation all the way

berg.the.red · 05-30-2003, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by seven

awh.. since you started the post quoting me atop thought you were saying that to me too.. my bad

no prob ... your post just happened to be the first topic i started with, and i was "too lazy" to go back and quote the others.

cheers !

Hooper · 05-30-2003, 12:01 PM

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but you may be right - we might all be stupid and don't have a clue what we are doing.

I didnt say that or imply that. This discussion seems to have gotten silly.

SNOW · 05-30-2003, 12:24 PM

sleazy i have some for you at http://www.mafiagalleries.com/

http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/3/XXXXX/index.html
http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/5/XXXXX/index.html
http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/8/XXXXX/index.html

uno · 05-30-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by GoGoBar
Should we pay you for upsells in the members area too?

That would be pretty fucking sweet, imo. lol

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Hooper

I didnt say that or imply that. This discussion seems to have gotten silly.

welcome to GFY

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by SNOW
sleazy i have some for you at http://www.mafiagalleries.com/

http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/3/XXXXX/index.html
http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/5/XXXXX/index.html
http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/8/XXXXX/index.html

nice and clean - sweet

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Tam
Hi Sleazy, wow...... haven't talked to you in a long time. Hope you have been doing well sweetie. ;)

I just thought I'd pop my head in here and let you know that we have popup free galleries on www.pibcash.com

You can see them on www.pibgalleries.com
Samples:
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/lfre...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/real...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/tonic/index.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/dcgi...ndex.php?uid=6
http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/bbwl...ndex.php?uid=6

We don't have any pops on anything anywhere on any of our sites unless YOU choose to have them. But on the hosted galleries there isn't one anywhere. ALL codes are yours and yours alone. As you can see they are clean and not over ridden with any garbage. We had these made with TGPs in mind..... ;)

nice

magnatique · 05-30-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

SleazyDream again thanx for the input. We just put it in our new newsletter about dropping the pop ups, should make a lot more Webmasters use it. Remember, even with our pop ups Webmasters were getting paid for all exits.

We also have a TGP Gallery Generator that creates different URL's. The Galleries I showed you were from our quick access random galleries - so we have all types of TGP galleries.

With our Free Hosted TGP Gallery Generator you can pick out your own templates, your own pix, etc., it's pretty slick for those who want higher quality galleries, it takes a little longer, but you can customize them to your liking chosing from 100's of thousands of photos.

Fantasyman,

may I suggest some things?

Like Sleazy Dream says, some webmasters like them clean.. to keep a better TGP with great quality all around, and perfect navigation... such as SleazyDream.com...

But, some other TGP's out there are simply traffic traps... trying to make the best bang for the buck... in that case, having popups they'd get sales from, is a plus!

I'd suggest maybe having both options around... say two different links... then you keep the clean guys happy, but still convert better for the signup savy people ;)

just my thoughts though!

Fletch XXX · 05-30-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

nice and clean - sweet

there must be something wrong here.

when i click this gallery link:

http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/8/XXXXX/index.html

I get this

http://www.3900.1.hugecocksgalore.com/

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

there must be something wrong here.

when i click this gallery link:

http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/8/XXXXX/index.html

I get this

http://www.3900.1.hugecocksgalore.com/

LOL - I get it now too..... sad - more games. It was clean when I checked.

Only proves my point about people playing games...............

GotGauge · 05-30-2003, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by sacX
nastydollars hosted galleries are the best I use.
e.g. InTheVip
Good range of sites.. the lightspeed ones are excellent too

Yes, that Gallery converts well, We made that one.

oggy · 05-30-2003, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by GoGoBar
Oh yeah, I'm still wondering how I became a "scammer"?

There's nothing hidden at all about what we do. Isn't that what constitutes a scam?

And what are a "DUMBDUMP" and a "dipwad"?

And how many "OUNCHES" do you weigh?

oggy · 05-30-2003, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by oggy

Steve · 05-30-2003, 03:06 PM

oggy
what is it you are trying to say?

fedfest · 05-30-2003, 03:45 PM

SleazyDream Great Post

It's realy amazing how much scaming there is not only on the hosted galleries but on many of the site tours as well these days, seems to me that having bad linking, putting in e-mail boxes or links not tracking your reff code is the new big sponsor thing.. Might be the much talk about shaving that made some sponsors turn to other ways of scaming...

Anyways.. This post sure helped me find new sponsors i wan't to give a try.. as well as sponsors I'll propably never even give a testrun..

To add to the discusion.. I mainly use revshare programs and in my point of view ANY money made from any trafic i ever send to that program i should have my cut..
Revshare Is a partnership and not paying for All revenue generated by me is in my opinion Cheating your partner..

To add to that.. Many programs offer webmaster refferal, but only very few seems to track refferal codes trough the webmaster link on the tours.. Why not ?? If i posted a gallery that looked good and a webmaster comes to your site becaurse of that, who then has reffered that webmaster.. Me !
Just a small scam, i know.. but still it's often small things like this that in the end may make me not use the sponsor anyways.. think about that sponsors..are those few $ saved realy worth it ?

For hosted galleries try these beauties.. No popups and no funny stuff.. and should you click the webmaster link on the sites i'm actualy getting credited for it

a Dreambabes gallery

a Babes Tv gallery

a Uk Babes gallery

To some of you sponsors in this post that shows to be running good clean programs that don't need to fuck your partners/affiliates.. You'll have my signup and trafic now hope we'll make good money together

Cheers
Taass

fedfest · 05-30-2003, 04:56 PM

Damn..This is getting a bad habit *LOL*

05-30-2003, 05:48 PM

I can't believe I haven't spammed my sig in this thread yet. Or maybe I did a few pages back and I forgot already.

Anyway, for a big list of sponsor hosted galleries all in one place, check out my site:

http://sponsorhostedgalleries.com

I list all their galleries right on my site so you can check out who has clean galleries and who doesn't.

wimpy · 05-30-2003, 08:10 PM

what's a hosted gallery?

SleazyDream · 05-30-2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by wimpy
what's a hosted gallery?

i thought i knew till i made this thread...............

4Pics · 05-31-2003, 12:53 AM

Sleazy,

You don't mention anything about once they hit the Sponsor Gallerys or paysites them redirecting based on country/ip to dialers.

How many sponsors are doing that? Is there an easy way to test it?

SleazyDream · 05-31-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
Sleazy,

You don't mention anything about once they hit the Sponsor Gallerys or paysites them redirecting based on country/ip to dialers.

How many sponsors are doing that? Is there an easy way to test it?

good point

4Pics · 05-31-2003, 02:13 PM

Are popups ok if it's 1 that promotes the rest of the sites (you get 100% credit since it passes your ref code and all the sites listed are mine.

Getting ready to redo the current popups I am using so wanted opinons on this.

http · 05-31-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

good point

indeed

I have over 2000 hosted galleries in my sig that have no pop-ups

(!) all the recurring programs (wcpcash, ddfcash...) have no pop-ups on the tours

None of my galleries redirect anywhere due to language settings, IP of the surfer or whatever. They just don't redirect at all

100% no games, fast hosted and decent converting
(and some gallery sets do exceptionally well)

and you get 67% of all hits, and all sales therein

4Pics · 05-31-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by http

and you get 67% of all hits, and all sales therein

What do you mean I get 67% where does the other 33% go?
Shouldn't I get all of it? Or do you mean it's a partnership and instead of a usual 50/50 split its a 67/33 split?

SleazyDream · 05-31-2003, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics

What do you mean I get 67% where does the other 33% go?
Shouldn't I get all of it? Or do you mean it's a partnership and instead of a usual 50/50 split its a 67/33 split?

sounds like his program saves you the effort of typing in your url with the sponser hosted gallery directly................and at only 1/3 the cost of all business you generate. lol

we all know it's SOOOO difficult to sign up with hosted gallery sponsers too...........

05-30-2003, 03:45 PM	#225
fedfest Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,334	SleazyDream Great Post It's realy amazing how much scaming there is not only on the hosted galleries but on many of the site tours as well these days, seems to me that having bad linking, putting in e-mail boxes or links not tracking your reff code is the new big sponsor thing.. Might be the much talk about shaving that made some sponsors turn to other ways of scaming... Anyways.. This post sure helped me find new sponsors i wan't to give a try.. as well as sponsors I'll propably never even give a testrun.. To add to the discusion.. I mainly use revshare programs and in my point of view ANY money made from any trafic i ever send to that program i should have my cut.. Revshare Is a partnership and not paying for All revenue generated by me is in my opinion Cheating your partner.. To add to that.. Many programs offer webmaster refferal, but only very few seems to track refferal codes trough the webmaster link on the tours.. Why not ?? If i posted a gallery that looked good and a webmaster comes to your site becaurse of that, who then has reffered that webmaster.. Me ! Just a small scam, i know.. but still it's often small things like this that in the end may make me not use the sponsor anyways.. think about that sponsors..are those few $ saved realy worth it ? For hosted galleries try these beauties.. No popups and no funny stuff.. and should you click the webmaster link on the sites i'm actualy getting credited for it a Dreambabes gallery a Babes Tv gallery a Uk Babes gallery To some of you sponsors in this post that shows to be running good clean programs that don't need to fuck your partners/affiliates.. You'll have my signup and trafic now hope we'll make good money together Cheers Taass __________________ RewardThem Now Paying Up To 70% Revshare ! Top Converting CCbill affiliate program that will keep your members rebilling. No Traffic Leaks, No Popups, No Bullshit.. You get Credited For EVERYTHING !

05-30-2003, 04:56 PM	#226
fedfest Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,334	Damn..This is getting a bad habit LOL __________________ RewardThem Now Paying Up To 70% Revshare ! Top Converting CCbill affiliate program that will keep your members rebilling. No Traffic Leaks, No Popups, No Bullshit.. You get Credited For EVERYTHING !

05-30-2003, 08:10 PM	#228
wimpy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 607	what's a hosted gallery? __________________ Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind." icq 8243657

05-30-2003, 12:40 AM	#202
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,488	Hi Sleazy, wow...... haven't talked to you in a long time. Hope you have been doing well sweetie. ;) I just thought I'd pop my head in here and let you know that we have popup free galleries on www.pibcash.com You can see them on www.pibgalleries.com Samples: http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/lfre...ndex.php?uid=6 http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/real...ndex.php?uid=6 http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/tonic/index.php?uid=6 http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/dcgi...ndex.php?uid=6 http://www.pibgalleries.com/pib/bbwl...ndex.php?uid=6 We don't have any pops on anything anywhere on any of our sites unless YOU choose to have them. But on the hosted galleries there isn't one anywhere. ALL codes are yours and yours alone. As you can see they are clean and not over ridden with any garbage. We had these made with TGPs in mind..... ;)

05-30-2003, 12:24 PM	#213
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	sleazy i have some for you at http://www.mafiagalleries.com/ http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/3/XXXXX/index.html http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/5/XXXXX/index.html http://www.mafiagalleries.com/hcg/01/8/XXXXX/index.html

05-30-2003, 03:06 PM	#224
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	oggy what is it you are trying to say?

05-30-2003, 05:48 PM	#227
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I can't believe I haven't spammed my sig in this thread yet. Or maybe I did a few pages back and I forgot already. Anyway, for a big list of sponsor hosted galleries all in one place, check out my site: http://sponsorhostedgalleries.com I list all their galleries right on my site so you can check out who has clean galleries and who doesn't.

05-31-2003, 12:53 AM	#230
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Sleazy, You don't mention anything about once they hit the Sponsor Gallerys or paysites them redirecting based on country/ip to dialers. How many sponsors are doing that? Is there an easy way to test it?

05-31-2003, 02:13 PM	#232
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Are popups ok if it's 1 that promotes the rest of the sites (you get 100% credit since it passes your ref code and all the sites listed are mine. Getting ready to redo the current popups I am using so wanted opinons on this.