SleazyDream - I'm just trying to understand....

When you say pop up hell, are you saying if they click on the Paysite? or when they click on a pic?

with all fantasyman has done for this industry I waved those comments outa respect.

Probably means the paysite, that would be cheating if a pic had popups and would be rejected/blacklisted

thanx :thumbsup

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Now, I'd like to be on the "elite" list for the next party. LOL

:Graucho :1orglaugh

when they click on the paysite.

don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with popups, but on a site like mine that relies on bookmarks if i slam the hell outa people with them i gain a few bucks today but loose long term by loosing bookmarks. just how my business works.

one tasteful popup don't really hurt anything and I often allow that on pre-paid ads in some locations.

what I was mainly bitching about was hosted galleries that claim to offer revshare but the surfer gets hit with a ton of other paysites that the person posting the gallery doesn't get paid for.

I was referring to a username/pass prompt on a Epoch webmaster signup page to which I link from my site. So obviously this wasn't the popup you meant? What pop-up did you get then?

These are our randomly generated TGP galleries. In both Follow Me Free and Pay It Forward the Webmaster who posted the gallery gets paid on every single pop up in the rotation.

I'm having this changed so that in our randomly generated TGP Galleries there will be no pop ups.

I appreciate your input since I'm not up to speed on TGP's. I will post back here when the change is made.

I would have thought that a Webmaster would want the pop ups since it adds 33% to their income, but what the hell do I know :) LOL

some do, some don't. just depends on the webmaster.

lensman, for example, offers both options.

thanks for the intelligent response. some of the other posters in the thread could learn a thing or two from you.

there's more than one? I left after the first one...........

Quote below sounded to me like you were bitching about bad pop-ups, pop-up hell, pop-ups that do not credit you for sales
Now, the pop-up I'm talking about is unique. It's a kinda sample movie to convince surfer to come back to the same site.com now or later, it does not contain any other sponsor link whatsoever for you to get credit for or not so to me this pop-up is not a pop-up even though it's thrown with a snippet of JVScript code.. if you know what I mean.

i love it when someone tries to say their popup isn't a popup.

You are just impossible man! :) If you wanna categorize every single new window as just pop-ups then most "clean" TGPs are full of pop-ups cos they open galleries in new windows :glugglug

thank you kindly

on rethinking this - for a $35 or so per sign up program that would be proballybe a necessary option.

I was origionally thinking of revshare something like a 50/50 split- which wouldn't really require a lower split as the income would be lower on both ends.

http://www.amateurs-uk.com/gallerie...dex.shtml?40056
http://www.amateurs-uk.com/gallerie...dex.shtml?40056
http://www.amateurs-uk.com/gallerie...dex.shtml?40056



You're right...good AND clean and I've got lots more of 'em

Give 'em a try SD, they're brand new :thumbsup

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought you had gone completely crazy.

Rev share sites should not have pop-ups. Only PPS sites.

No, as I already mentioned there are no pop-ups on my site

Not sure why you keep telling me about pop-ups when there are none (in the links I posted or ony my site)

checked again - clean this time

I wouldn't remove a popup if I had one, just to prove you wrong or whatever you are trying to imply with "this time".

I simply had not and don't have a pop-up. That shouldn't be too hard to understand.

Sleazy, by your reasoning within this thread, galleries posted by TGP gallery submitters that have sponsor links leading to tours with pop-ups (exit and/or entry) should be declined.

And by your reasoning, you shouldn't trade with TGPs that open galleries in new windows=pop-ups. Btw, as one of my good old friend wondering, you just noticed about sponsors popping blurs/consoles NOW? Pop-ups are old news, new news are the toolbar installation, parasite installation etc.. maybe wanna talk about that?

i'm glad you made this thread. after reading it i started to check out some of my sponsors hosted gallaries(havent used them yet). 1 sponsor has 5 fucking popups after my referral link is clicked. guess how many of the 5 had my referral code...NONE! my link was at the underneath popup hell. should i post the company or what?

please do

i don't see why that dude thinks mine is so bad... i got 1 popup which the affilaite get's credit for.. i host their own domain and they have ftp access to fuck with it all they want

While I do not think yours is bad, this is not my thread, and the option for a console free tour is always welcome.

SleazyDream

Our Random TGP Galleries are now Pop Up Free - these Galleries change every 10 minutes - always different!!

http://tgp.cybereroticagallery.com/c...d/2120000/anal

http://tgp.cybereroticagallery.com/c...d/2120000/teen

http://tgp.cybereroticagallery.com/c.../2120000/asian

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http://tgp.cybereroticagallery.com/c...d/2120000/oral

http://tgp.cybereroticagallery.com/c...nd/2120000/gay

Check them out and lmk what you think.

Thanx for your input, we learn something new everyday!! :)

Hosted galleries -
Mine are clean - But on the pay sites I have either show 1 pop up or 1 consul - Max -
I use ccbill and tracking goes from one site to the next so I try and make the best for my partner and me!
Once the consul (on 2-3 sites close, the game is over - Once the pop up closes (on several sites) also, the game is over.
I have cookies set to their max life span - I have cancelled members redirected to an unadvertised site of ours, also with ccbill - These saleas are passed to my partners - If they were credited with the original sale.
Ask youself this: How many sponsors trade their cancellations out so you get sweet fuck all?
How many flog their emails - So you get swet fuck all?

http://www.harlotgirl.com/TGP/stockings/003/
Forgot to add an example gallery! (Meet my wife):thumbsup

i don't trust hosted galleries, i pretty much assumed they would do something to try and make money off it.

Is this gallery any good? noone will post it on the MGPs.

http://tgp.friedsynapse.com/glazed/mgp7/index.html

Thanks,
-Drew

I totally disagree with you.
A hosted gallery should work in the same way as a tgp is intended - At a minimum!
There are many webmasters offering this function in the same way I do -
Which is giving you an extra tool to make cash - No one says you must .

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

why is that funny?

-Drew

Wheres the movies?..thats a gallery. Usally movie galleries have 2 -4 samples in it

Nice galleries FM. Too bad more sponsors arent as clean as those :thumbsup

The movies are where it says DVD QUALITY VIDEO CLICK TO WATCH

????????????????

-Drew

What's up SleazyDream -

I just had to pop a few of my hosted in here - I run 6 free sites as well as NScash and they depend on hosted gals ( its a real time saver )

So saying that - I hate some of the crap a lot of sponsors dish out... Totally with you there in regards to pops, redirects, galleries that all of a sudden just disappear, shitty ass lay-outs (you'd think they would get a real designer if they are going to burn bw) ect... I'm cleaning out my database daily. I just don't use them and my database is getting thin.

That's also why my gals are clean and hit my member sites with no BS and no pops ;) I come from both sides as a promoter and site owner giving out hosted gals to my partners that I would use simply put.

So now for the SleazyDream test :)
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/ns....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/ns....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/ns....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/ns....php?id=simple
http://www.jizzgalleries.com/hosted/....php?id=simple

http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/jb....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/jb_sabrin....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/da....php?id=simple
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted/jb....php?id=simple
http://www.jizzgalleries.com/hosted/....php?id=simple

These get the SleazyDream :thumbsup ?

NO spam or BS but I manage every single hosted gallery for drunkdollars and I will pay $1000 to anyone who finds ONE game. our shit is straight html with no bullshit, and if any page on DD has popups you can see your partner code right in there, not to mention the fact that you can turn OFF popups on our site PER JOIN LINK easily. If shit was shady i'd be fired.
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spunky1

These galleries randomly change every 10 minutes. This means they stay fresh.

There are no pop ups. Not even when they click for the paysite offering, they can arrow back.

Follow Me Free pays $55 per monthly member with free trials.

Pay It Forward pays $20 per free trial - no deductions.

Both of the programs pay 50% of all dialer revenue.

Both programs support Adult Links for income that is ongoing, even after you stop sending traffic you still make money!

those look awesome - just a hint - many tgps want new galleries on new urls though - not rotating galleries.

wow - impressed.

Great for hardlinks..set them and forget them :)

I use them and signups suck...Any reason why??

SD.. do you have any actual numbers that show a decline in bookmarkers when you link to galleries that link to sponsors who have popups?

If not then you might want to test it, because assumptions like that can be a revenue killer.

Ideally since this is all about revenue, wouldnt you be happier earning a higher per signup rate, getting exit credits (thus more joins) and having your customers return back at the same rate?

Suppose you lost 10% of your surfers. That sounds awful, but what if you increased revenue by 40%?

Just a thought as most (not saying you) people tend to make traffic assumptions that are wrong.

if I was worried about shear volume of surfers on sleazydream I'd install the UCJC trafic trading script and have about 50% more traffic than I already do.

SleazyDream again thanx for the input. We just put it in our new newsletter about dropping the pop ups, should make a lot more Webmasters use it. Remember, even with our pop ups Webmasters were getting paid for all exits.

We also have a TGP Gallery Generator that creates different URL's. The Galleries I showed you were from our quick access random galleries - so we have all types of TGP galleries.

With our Free Hosted TGP Gallery Generator you can pick out your own templates, your own pix, etc., it's pretty slick for those who want higher quality galleries, it takes a little longer, but you can customize them to your liking chosing from 100's of thousands of photos.

learn something new every day

because "that's the way the game is played". a TGP site is nothing more than one big "switch board" with links on them. in most cases - other peoples links. people who submit to TGP's expect some sort of traffic to their galleries. all of them do. you pop the gallery in a new window, and your site stays there visible for the surfers next "gallery fix". there's a ton of TGP's out there. you fuck `em, they ultimately blame YOU the site owner. they'll go on to the next one. MTV mentality - who knows ...

as for sponsor galleries with pop-ups/console hells ... if a gallery submitter can expect to be banned, black listed and possibly publicly ridiculed on some webmaster board for posting a gallery with a pop-up or what-not - what does it say about the site and the site owner when that same submitter sees a gallery listed ( sponsor provided we'll assume ) that does the same thing he just got hammered for ? site owners have certain rules we have to play by too.

as for payouts - most of us who use console free expect a cut. it just becomes a matter of how much. SIC only dings you $2.50 for a console free w/PS. other programs i've seen go up to $15.00. and Sleazy DID mention RevShare. it would work to the benefit of both parties involved if his surfer didn't get ass raped and actually signed up to the site.

and it's good to see CE Cash is willing to work with some webmasters ... :winkwink:

Sleazy one question.

Would you mind a pop up that offers a trial from a one month only tour?


"hey wait try us for $4.95 for 3 days"


On a partnership program ofcourse.

I only ask because we are having so many webmasters sending to the no trial option of our sites and more than half the joins are one monthers but I still like to catch the trial guys on exits