Thats very true, however there are degrees of lies.. and invading a country based on things that in hindsight, are not materializing is pretty extreme.

Iraq was supposed to provide evidence of the destruction of the WMD's and didnt, however Bush claimed they were a immediate threat to the US and the middle east... obviously that was not true.
Bush cant find the WMD's, cant find links that Saddam supported AlQueda (sp) - he cant even find Osama..
yet hes already threatening Iran and accusing them of the same things that he accused Iraq of.

I dont mind doing things to defend the country, but maybe we should start by controlling our borders instead of invading every country that has links to terrorism and oil...

The only repercussions will be from "terrorists" and maybe some politcal price that the President may have to pay...but no country on this earth that has a leader in their right mind wants to become a percieved foe of the USA...economically or militarily.

Yeah he was lying and I think he's a horrible fucking president. However anyone who pays attention to world news more than US news would have known he was full of shit long before now. The truth is we were attacking Iraq because they were our easiest target over there and not liked by the rest of the middle east so we could take them over with the least reprucussions, and gain a deal on their oil and oil contracts. But that was just the begining, the bigger picture was to setup a forward base of operation right in the middle of the fucking middle east so we could get directly at Iran, cutting Iran's nuke program will have two effects, 1 it will shut them down from owning nukes, but bigger than that, they are North Korea's #1 customer and we will have eliminated N Korea's #1 customer and their outlet for selling their systems. It pays to be informed, all of this is going to be interesting since we still aren't going after the money supply which is Saudia Arabia, and if we never go after the money, we'll never slow terrorism down. When Bin Laden said he was going to take down America too many of you dumbasses took him literally. All along his plan was to gain control and power of Saudia Arabia and their oil and money as well as the two holyiest muslim sites and he's doing it and we aren't stopping it because of our own greed.

I have to defend your president... He is not the most intelligent or educated man ( thought the "Talibans" were a rock group), and we all now that he has many slips of the tongue .

All along, he didn't mean IRAQ , but in fact IRAN ....

Ouuupsss , I invaded (liberated) the wrong country... Oh well!

Very well said. Terrorism will only become more of a problem due to Bushes actions (or inactions) and quite frankly I'm not to sure Bush would have it any other way.

Just breath in and relax this is still the best country to live in by far

Dont worry Iran will come soon enough

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Originally posted by theking


Reasons for war.

#1. Iraq was defeated on the field of battle and signed certain terms. Iraq has been in violation of those terms since they signed the terms in '91. The USA has demanded that those terms be complied with and that Iraq remain a defeated country.

#2. Iraq attempted to assasinate a former American President.

#3. Iraq has fired upon, almost daily, for almost 11 years, USA military forces.

#4. Iraq is believed to have, or are acquiring, or are attempting to acquire WMD's. The USA will not allow that.

#5. Iraq has, on multiple occassions called for Americans, to be killed where ever they are found. Thus they are a sworn enemy of the USA.

#6. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for future military operations against our enemies in the region, which number in the 100's of millions.

#7. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for its oil fields and for the surrounding oil fields, for as the worlds oil supplies dwindle the USA will be in a position to control the dwindling oil supplies for its use and the use of its European allies.

#8. A take over of Iraq sends a very powerful signal to the other countries in that area of the world that if they don't get their act together they will be next.

Any one of the reasons above is a reason for war.
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I posted that long before the invasion of Iraq. Pay particular attention to #6-8.

It is my belief that #6-8 are the driving force behind the invasion of Iraq. If I am correct...what would have been the reaction of the World if President would have stated these reasons?

The majority of the American people...I do not believe would have had a problem...if the President would have stated reasons 6-8..but approval may have been lessened.

theking really needs a job

you're just wasting tax payers money spending your life posting shite on this board

a BJ ????

not today

I am working on a database in between posts...thank you very much. In addition the taxes that I pay more than cover my VA check...so I pay my own way...thank you very much. You are now dismissed...troll.

prove it you cripple

you're constantly asking everyone and their dog for proof to back up their posts

now it's your turn

put up or shut up

No...troll. My business is my business and not a fucking trolls business or anyone else's business on this board.

I quit taking orders when I left the military...you are dismissed troll.

just as I thought

watching jerry springer

Regards,

SexySarah

did you just learn the word 'troll' today?

trying to see how many times you can use it in one sentence?

:1orglaugh

Regards,

SexySarah

because Sadam knew he couldn't win, but thought he would survive the war just like last time. It was a good political move to destroy the weapons.

No thunder in your balls, huh? Better to let folks blow up building and kill thousands of americans and not respond with full force? Fuck that.

Wait a year, then try posting again.

It might make more sense then.

Regards,

SexySarah

It's precisely because of the US meddling in the business of other countries that folks want to blow up buildings and kill thousands of americans, numbnuts

bullshit...war is based on religion and penis envy.

So Bush invaded Iraq because he's jealous of Saddam's winkie?

Regards,

SexySarah

I would venture to guess that a lot of people here have similar political views to that of the Libertarian Party.

http://libertarian.org
http://www.lp.org/

I'm a 20 year vet honey, I don't need your approval.

Ah, that explains it.
The dumb ones make the best soldiers :)
Ours not to reason why, ours but to fall asleep under jeeps and get run over.

Yes you do. Ask around.

Regards,

SexySarah

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no, afraid not....

ak47: :rainfro

well, sometimes under a jeep is better than a tent. Its cooler.

Typical dumbass redneck. Try reading a paper once in a while instead of counting your bullets and you'll find Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

What does being an animal doctor have to do with it? :1orglaugh

Typical dumbass response...I'm no war monger, but believe what we did was right. I'd wager I'm a little better informed on this subject than you.

Ever get you dick stuck in a camel?

No. But I know someone who did.

Regards,

SexySarah

:thumbsup 12 here.

Verifies that you have a dick.

So, how about sharing???? Or name the iraqis terrorists aboard those planes? Always interested in improving my knowledge...

Ok, I'll bite. Lets hear how informative you are.

Being perceived as a "foe" of the US is an irrelevance to many other nations - they have no axe to grind and have other concerns and priorities to deal with. This "foe" term is.. lets call it one of these simplistic US tools used by the current "thing" in Washington. They are certainly not "foes", but at the same time, on many levels, just cannot trust or deal with the US Admin on ... hate to say this... but *any* subject. This is not a good situation to be in for any country when others have to keep checking the validity of any information from the President's Office. I think most would at least expect that *some* level of truth should come from there.

On repercussions, there are many, many levels and in many areas where this has already started - excluding the increased potential of "terrorist" attack.

A simple example is economic.. in reality, any sane person does not want to see damage to the US in this area. But, in the "real world" when faced with decisions re investment in the US, there is a problem. Even I know of several people who control commercial activities internationally, and they either have acted already or have cut down their involvement in the US. These folks have more money than God *s* - so if I know a couple, there is little doubt there are a lot, lot more thinking the same when it comes to their investors money.

Half the bonds in the US are foreign owned along with 10% of the Wall Street Ponzi Scheme and billions more in various areas. They have already lost, along with many US folks, 50% of their Ponzi Scheme investments due to total lack on controls on corporates within the US, the dismal failure of the SEC and blatant fraud, - although in several instances, it is "legal fraud".
To blame 9/11 for this situation, yes it helped well, and most folks understand this and wipe their faces of the loss, - but in the undercurrent there is a much bigger problem than 9/11.

The Admin have had more than ample chance to demonstate some degree of ability in fiscal policy, but have, literally... totally failed. No "wars" and any rhetoric can cover the real situation.

It is very hard to credit that *anyone* in the Whitehouse can ignore the US economic condition - and wipe it away by the repetitive use of "keywords" in speeches to show concern. ie.. "create jobs", "stong economy", "growth" blah. Sounds like spam to me - search engines ban ya for that shit! :glugglug

There are also reports from several, financially experienced and reputable sources, that this, apparent distruction, of the US economy is intentional of the part of the Admin. Nothing would be a surprise after the track record the Admin have shown - there is always more than meets the eye.

That old totally absurd cliche, "you are either with us or you are against us" or a "foe" just don't hold water. Other nations have more to concern themselves with than bother about the US. At the same time, it is rare to see many that would wish to see any harm done to the US.

Life is more complex than "with or against". The US Admin need to recognize they cannot be limited to the simplistic issuing "threats" and "warnings" to other countries - without general international support and cooperation, there is little left for the US. There is always a load of scrap metal in the form of missles of course, but they don't change the way people and countries think.

Post proof.

Regards,

SexySarah

Post proof.

Regards,

SexySarah