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machinegunkelly 06-19-2024 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23275298)
Another day, another couple thousand saved. Struggling to find a downside.
In about 15 min today, created a WP plugin to deal with spam users.

Lists and deletes all users with first name, last name match
Lists and deleted all users with blank first name, blank last name
Lists and deletes all users with comon spam emails RU, .site, .world etc
Lists and deleted all users with zero logins over X weeks old.

Deletes all posts associated with such user, and all meta associated with that post
Deletes all buddypress forums, groups, and basically any other form of content produced by deleted users.

All with a nice UI, progress bar, doesnt over load the server.. and took longer to run than it did to develop ( major infestation )

Required only moderate massage of prompt based on the login count meta, the rest was a joke.

Site is down 49k users, to a much more reasonable 2k - I didnt develop the site, but they came to me in a pinch and was able to fix them up good while I took a shit basically

Good times :thumbsup

CurrentlySober 06-20-2024 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 23275860)
while I took a shit...

Good times :thumbsup
Good times indeed!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

mainstreammix 06-20-2024 08:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 23275860)
In about 15 min today, created a WP plugin to deal with spam users.

Lists and deletes all users with first name, last name match
Lists and deleted all users with blank first name, blank last name
Lists and deletes all users with comon spam emails RU, .site, .world etc
Lists and deleted all users with zero logins over X weeks old.

Deletes all posts associated with such user, and all meta associated with that post
Deletes all buddypress forums, groups, and basically any other form of content produced by deleted users.

All with a nice UI, progress bar, doesnt over load the server.. and took longer to run than it did to develop ( major infestation )

Required only moderate massage of prompt based on the login count meta, the rest was a joke.

Site is down 49k users, to a much more reasonable 2k - I didnt develop the site, but they came to me in a pinch and was able to fix them up good while I took a shit basically

Good times :thumbsup
Yeah it's insane. I'd say some of the things I've used it for but they are pretty specialized so it would tip off my unhinged haters around here. I will just say that I process massive piles of data to get traffic that everyone else misses and it allows me to sell things for double what my competitors can get. Double the sale price, 10x to 50x their profit.

I have done this for a decade but either paid outsourced labor or hired programmers for things I can recreate in seconds now. It also does really well at design help if used correctly.

machinegunkelly 06-20-2024 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23276044)
It also does really well at design help if used correctly.
Its very good with taking a description and making design, especially if using a popular framework.

Give tailwind.css a try in your next project, let AI go ham.
Its a HUGE time saver

mainstreammix 06-20-2024 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by machinegunkelly (Post 23276083)
Its very good with taking a description and making design, especially if using a popular framework.

Give tailwind.css a try in your next project, let AI go ham.
Its a HUGE time saver
Nice, I mostly use it for royalty free things I can use in t-shirt designs and such but I've seen it spit out some retail ready designs often enough that I'm impressed.

Colmike9 06-20-2024 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23276113)
Nice, I mostly use it for royalty free things I can use in t-shirt designs and such but I've seen it spit out some retail ready designs often enough that I'm impressed.
The Photoshop beta with AI is pretty fun to play around with:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co.../paperart8.png

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/allineed.png

natkejs 07-04-2024 03:49 AM
Been using the new Claude Sonnet 3.5 for the last week now, very impressive.
Seems better at coding than GPT4o, though I still encounter situations where I have to prompt it a million times, would be faster to just write the code myself but making the AI do it is part of the fun.

I imagine it works a lot better when you create new stuff though vs having it code for projects within frameworks that are heavily modified already.

Either way, it's making this shit fun again so I'm a huge fan!

gtsix 07-07-2024 06:06 AM
to me it helps very much writing javascript snippets and such, to like extend functionality of certain sites... I couldn't collect the amount of information on sites like stackoverflow etc. in years, learning a lot from it while getting the job done at the same time... I never wanted to get lost in coding too much in my life because I'm also doing creative work like graphics, animations, music but I'm developing the coder thinking for more than a decade (html, css and other basic things are like already in my muscle memory though)... that way I'm able to explain properly pretty much everything I want to get written by GPT even that I couldn't write it all by myself, doing a lot of successful bug fixes with it too... never ever had this much help from real life coders my whole life to say the least :1orglaugh

still a scary future this all holds... now we're still in the middle of the transition where we are enjoying the benefits without any serious consequences but I got a feeling this phase won't last too long before complete chaos hits :1orglaugh

Emil 07-07-2024 09:55 AM
i asked ChatGTP. brb

Emil 07-07-2024 09:58 AM
Well, I guess it's a start or something, heh.

I just wanted a yes or a no!

Code:
Emil

Could you build a website with a admin page, similar to wordpress in PHP if I asked you to?




ChatGPT

Building a website with an admin page similar to WordPress in PHP is a significant project that involves creating a user-friendly content management system (CMS). Here is an overview of what this project entails and a basic structure to get you started:
Project Overview

    User Authentication:
        User registration and login.
        Admin roles and permissions.

    Database Structure:
        Tables for users, posts, categories, and comments.

    Admin Dashboard:
        Interface for managing posts, categories, users, and comments.
        Forms for creating and editing content.

    Frontend:
        Display posts and categories.
        Comments system.

Step-by-Step Guide
1. Setting Up the Environment

    Install PHP and MySQL: Ensure you have a working PHP and MySQL environment. Tools like XAMPP or WAMP can help set this up quickly.
    Create the Database: Use phpMyAdmin or the MySQL command line to create a database for your CMS.

2. Database Structure

Create a database schema similar to the following:

sql

CREATE DATABASE my_cms;

USE my_cms;

CREATE TABLE users (
    id INT AUTO_INCREMENT PRIMARY KEY,
    username VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL UNIQUE,
    password VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
    role ENUM('admin', 'editor', 'user') NOT NULL DEFAULT 'user'
);

CREATE TABLE posts (
    id INT AUTO_INCREMENT PRIMARY KEY,
    title VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
    content TEXT NOT NULL,
    author_id INT,
    created_at TIMESTAMP DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP,
    FOREIGN KEY (author_id) REFERENCES users(id)
);

CREATE TABLE categories (
    id INT AUTO_INCREMENT PRIMARY KEY,
    name VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL UNIQUE
);

CREATE TABLE post_categories (
    post_id INT,
    category_id INT,
    FOREIGN KEY (post_id) REFERENCES posts(id),
    FOREIGN KEY (category_id) REFERENCES categories(id)
);

CREATE TABLE comments (
    id INT AUTO_INCREMENT PRIMARY KEY,
    post_id INT,
    author VARCHAR(50),
    content TEXT NOT NULL,
    created_at TIMESTAMP DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP,
    FOREIGN KEY (post_id) REFERENCES posts(id)
);

3. Basic Authentication

registration.php:

php

<?php
// Handle registration form submission
?>
<form method="post" action="register.php">
    <input type="text" name="username" placeholder="Username" required>
    <input type="password" name="password" placeholder="Password" required>
    <button type="submit">Register</button>
</form>

login.php:

php

<?php
// Handle login form submission
?>
<form method="post" action="login.php">
    <input type="text" name="username" placeholder="Username" required>
    <input type="password" name="password" placeholder="Password" required>
    <button type="submit">Login</button>
</form>

auth.php:

php

<?php
session_start();
function is_logged_in() {
    return isset($_SESSION['user_id']);
}
?>

4. Admin Dashboard

admin/index.php:

php

<?php
include '../auth.php';
if (!is_logged_in()) {
    header('Location: ../login.php');
    exit();
}
?>
<h1>Admin Dashboard</h1>
<a href="create_post.php">Create Post</a>
<a href="manage_posts.php">Manage Posts</a>

admin/create_post.php:

php

<?php
include '../auth.php';
if (!is_logged_in()) {
    header('Location: ../login.php');
    exit();
}

// Handle form submission to create a new post
?>
<form method="post" action="create_post.php">
    <input type="text" name="title" placeholder="Title" required>
    <textarea name="content" placeholder="Content" required></textarea>
    <button type="submit">Create Post</button>
</form>

5. Frontend Display

index.php:

php

<?php
// Fetch and display posts from the database
?>
<h1>My Blog</h1>
<?php
// Loop through posts and display them
?>

post.php:

php

<?php
// Display a single post with comments
?>
<h1>Post Title</h1>
<p>Post content...</p>
<h2>Comments</h2>
<?php
// Loop through comments and display them
?>

Additional Features

    User Roles and Permissions: Differentiate between admin, editor, and regular users.
    WYSIWYG Editor: Integrate a WYSIWYG editor like TinyMCE for creating and editing posts.
    Media Management: Allow users to upload and manage images and other media.
    SEO Features: Add meta tags, descriptions, and other SEO features.
    Plugins and Themes: Implement a system to extend functionality through plugins and change appearance with themes.

Conclusion

Building a CMS from scratch is a substantial project that requires careful planning and execution. This guide provides a basic framework to get you started, but creating a fully functional system like WordPress will involve a lot more detail and advanced features. As you progress, you can expand on each section, adding more robust functionality and security measures.

Emil 07-07-2024 10:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/bmAwZKr.jpeg

:1orglaugh

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 08:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23273175)
Please show us the website you have built with AI.

And is AI any better than Wordpress when it comes to elimination of programmers?
Wordpress has a plugin for almost anything.

:2 cents:
Just wanted to bump this thread and have a giggle. I don't post my websites on GFY but I've built a dozen since this thread, AI has only gotten better and now I've got more projects than I can handle thanks to code from AI that never argues back, actually knows better and isn't a temperamental turd like some of the programmers I've dealt with in the past. :thumbsup

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 23280528)
Been using the new Claude Sonnet 3.5 for the last week now, very impressive.
Seems better at coding than GPT4o, though I still encounter situations where I have to prompt it a million times, would be faster to just write the code myself but making the AI do it is part of the fun.

I imagine it works a lot better when you create new stuff though vs having it code for projects within frameworks that are heavily modified already.

Either way, it's making this shit fun again so I'm a huge fan!
Yes, Pheer put me onto this fucking Claude and now he's moved in. 3o on ChatGPT has been really good but the limits are insane and infuriating. :pimp

mopek1 02-19-2025 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23348064)
I don't post my websites on GFY but I've built a dozen since this thread, thumbsup
What kind of sites? Content blogs, mini-sites with 10 or so pages of content, forums? How does it work?

I've seen that gardening site everyone talked about that got hit hard by a Google update (or even delisted) because it was an old domain that was rebuilt using AI. Google wanted to make an example of it. Apparently the guy spent 9 months building it and it made money and now is gone.

So if you built a dozen, I'm just curious what kind and how etc?

P.S. Not asking you to reveal them, your niche etc...

Mr Pheer 02-19-2025 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23348101)
What kind of sites? Content blogs, mini-sites with 10 or so pages of content, forums? How does it work?

I've seen that gardening site everyone talked about that got hit hard by a Google update (or even delisted) because it was an old domain that was rebuilt using AI. Google wanted to make an example of it. Apparently the guy spent 9 months building it and it made money and now is gone.

So if you built a dozen, I'm just curious what kind and how etc?

P.S. Not asking you to reveal them, your niche etc...
Bonzai Mary? That one was bound to get delisted... he was telling everyone exactly what he was doing so they could copy him. Now he's fucking up Pinterest, him and a few other running their mouth. Now Pinterest is labeling AI images as of a few days ago.

mopek1 02-19-2025 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23348106)
Bonzai Mary?
LOL, yes, that's the one. Forgot that was his name though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23348106)
That one was bound to get delisted... he was telling everyone exactly what he was doing so they could copy him. Now he's fucking up Pinterest, him and a few other running their mouth. Now Pinterest is labeling AI images as of a few days ago.
Thanks I didn't know that. So he's a big mouth and arrogant about it and all that does is make things worse for everyone.

Mr Pheer 02-19-2025 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23348108)
LOL, yes, that's the one. Forgot that was his name though.



Thanks I didn't know that. So he's a big mouth and arrogant about it and all that does is make things worse for everyone.
Jesse Cunningham

He posts all that crap and pushes his "course" for $350, marked down from $900 of course... it's a bargain! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

One good thing that he did though: When his site got delisted, it convinced most of the part timers that it's not worth their time so they quit :winkwink:

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23348101)
What kind of sites? Content blogs, mini-sites with 10 or so pages of content, forums? How does it work?

I've seen that gardening site everyone talked about that got hit hard by a Google update (or even delisted) because it was an old domain that was rebuilt using AI. Google wanted to make an example of it. Apparently the guy spent 9 months building it and it made money and now is gone.

So if you built a dozen, I'm just curious what kind and how etc?

P.S. Not asking you to reveal them, your niche etc...
No, I don't even know what that is. Sounds like one of those lazy, shortcut seeking people though.

Without saying what I am doing exactly imagine being able to take 50,000 products from a wholesaler, pulling in relevant data and previous questions and answers about them from various sources and publishing them for sale with watermarked images in an hour and without knowing how to code. It's indistinguishable from me doing it by hand, there is nothing to flag. I'm not using AI generated images for example.

If you're asking how I got started, you can literally go ask AI what you would need to do to develop (very complicated thing) and it will give you all of the steps, pros, cons, alternatives, etc. for everything. I still prefer using existing platforms instead of reinventing the wheel but the examples you gave (except forums) would be on the basic end of what can be done. So far I haven't run into a problem I can't solve.

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23348109)
Jesse Cunningham

He posts all that crap and pushes his "course" for $350, marked down from $900 of course... it's a bargain! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Don't know them but I bet he started by typing "I want to sell a course" into ChatGPT. :1orglaugh

mopek1 02-19-2025 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23348109)
Jesse Cunningham

He posts all that crap and pushes his "course" for $350, marked down from $900 of course... it's a bargain! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

One good thing that he did though: When his site got delisted, it convinced most of the part timers that it's not worth their time so they quit :winkwink:
When you sell something that is permanently marked down 66% or more, it looks shady. I wonder if people still buy though? And yes, it's a bargain lol, he should have started it at $10k and reduced it to $1999.

On your second point, I did see lots of people on Reddit (the sub that discussed Bonsai Mary) saying that traditional blogging and site building was now dead, after the update and that site being delisted. Actually almost all of them were saying it.

mopek1 02-19-2025 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23348117)
you can literally go ask AI what you would need to do to develop (very complicated thing) and it will give you all of the steps, pros, cons, alternatives, etc. for everything. I still prefer using existing platforms instead of reinventing the wheel .
Thanks. The problem I always seem to have is knowing what is possible to do. It's usually just a blind spot here or there and then once those are cleared I'm off to the races because now I "see" .

Anything I have been doing can now be enhanced and accelerated with AI.

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23348167)
Thanks. The problem I always seem to have is knowing what is possible to do. It's usually just a blind spot here or there and then once those are cleared I'm off to the races because now I "see" .

Anything I have been doing can now be enhanced and accelerated with AI.
Oh me too. I was using ChatGPT to process large quantities of data on the actual site. For some reason it gave me a python script about the 20th time and I just asked what to do with it. Few minutes of back and forth with error messages and it was working and 1000x faster than using it on the web. Since then I've rewritten every script I've bought over the years to be better and faster and others to build out fully functional websites or add things in bulk to my store then process them to move to eBay, Amazon, TikTok, Walmart, etc.

Instead of thinking about small ways it can help go ask it how you'd go about making ________ from scratch and look at the responses. It will give you some ideas.

Farang 02-19-2025 04:20 PM
llms are great as coding assistants, but also there's a lot of frustration as well when it's not sure what to do but goes ahead and does it anyway, adds useless 'fixes' that over-complicate the code or outright removes vital functions. the larger the codebase the more it hallucinates it seems. still beats spending hours on stackoverflow like in the good old days though :upsidedow

the cursor app is really good, i find myself using claude 3.5 sonnet(which was realeased almost a year ago and still arguably the best for code) most of the time :thumbsup

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 04:39 PM
I've mostly gotten around those issues with how I word my prompts and the overall project instructions.

CaptainHowdy 02-19-2025 06:10 PM
You're denying yourself the joy of dealing with a live programmer . . .

mainstreammix 02-19-2025 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23348283)
You're denying yourself the joy of dealing with a live programmer . . .
I enjoyed them for 20 years, someone else can have all the fun. :1orglaugh

mopek1 02-20-2025 04:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23348283)
You're denying yourself the joy of dealing with a live programmer . . .
Yeah, I will miss that. I will miss them taking weeks to get back to me, to reacting as if every request is something only they can do and requires a lot of work, asking what my budget is as they try to see what they can get from me, and then once getting payment, acting as if I am being pushy for wanting my work done properly when I email them asking for it 3 months late.

I grieve.

candyflip 02-22-2025 07:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23273175)
Please show us the website you have built with AI.

And is AI any better than Wordpress when it comes to elimination of programmers?
Wordpress has a plugin for almost anything.

:2 cents:
I’m still putting these together. I think my testing database is paused at the moment and they still have a ways to go. But AI did the heavy lifting on both of these moved the course of a day.

SeedTrackr.app
GrowTrackr.app

I’ve got another version that combines the features of both. I’m sure there are some issues / bugs to be fixed. But if this is where things are moving, it’s only going to get better.

Focus 02-22-2025 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Farang (Post 23348246)
llms are great as coding assistants, but also there's a lot of frustration as well when it's not sure what to do but goes ahead and does it anyway, adds useless 'fixes' that over-complicate the code or outright removes vital functions. the larger the codebase the more it hallucinates it seems. still beats spending hours on stackoverflow like in the good old days though :upsidedow

the cursor app is really good, i find myself using claude 3.5 sonnet(which was realeased almost a year ago and still arguably the best for code) most of the time :thumbsup
Modulation is your best friend here, also do you use instructions.md and cursor rules? It will help with hallucinations.

CyberHustler 02-22-2025 08:33 AM
It's insane how much AI has advanced since I last participated in this thread.

Still on the fence on how great or bad this is for humanity, especially with who runs shit now. But at the moment, AI is a godsend for productivity. Makes being a one-man show a lot more worth it.

Hallucinations remain an annoying thorn, but I view it as a feature to weed out the mentally lazy. If that stops you in your tracks, that's good news for me.

mainstreammix 02-22-2025 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23349081)
It's insane how much AI has advanced since I last participated in this thread.

Still on the fence on how great or bad this is for humanity, especially with who runs shit now. But at the moment, AI is a godsend for productivity. Makes being a one-man show a lot more worth it.

Hallucinations remain an annoying thorn, but I view it as a feature to weed out the mentally lazy. If that stops you in your tracks, that's good news for me.
I haven't had any hallucinations in a long time, especially with Claude. From time to time it will answer a question by writing code before I tell it to but no made up shit.

CyberHustler 02-22-2025 09:18 AM
I get hallucinations all the time when doing non-code stuff, especially with ChatGPT. Im just good at spotting them.

Gotta be real careful if you care about facts when using it to write ebooks and shit about real events.

mopek1 02-22-2025 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23349099)
I get hallucinations all the time when doing non-code stuff, especially with ChatGPT. .
Do you mean it spits out fiction sometimes if you are asking it for an accurate, fact-based article?

mainstreammix 02-22-2025 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23349099)
I get hallucinations all the time when doing non-code stuff, especially with ChatGPT. Im just good at spotting them.

Gotta be real careful if you care about facts when using it to write ebooks and shit about real events.
I know what it is, I had it re-arranging data on page all the time and it would make up numbers or entries. When I ask it to write a script it doesn't do that.

Mr Pheer 02-22-2025 10:34 AM
Sometimes Claude is just an asshole. That time it replaced my API key with a fake one nearly had me throwing my keyboard through my fuckin monitor.

https://i.imgur.com/DnjYZDU.png

That was from using Claude through github... I don't do that anymore.

mainstreammix 02-22-2025 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23349125)
Sometimes Claude is just an asshole. That time it replaced my API key with a fake one nearly had me throwing my keyboard through my fuckin monitor.

https://i.imgur.com/DnjYZDU.png

That was from using Claude through github... I don't do that anymore.
:1orglaugh

I did have it one time move my API key to an external file for security along with a few other things but it didn't tell me any of the file structure and such when it did it.

CyberHustler 02-22-2025 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23349107)
Do you mean it spits out fiction sometimes if you are asking it for an accurate, fact-based article?
Yes. Don't be these lawyers out here embarrassing themselves 🤣

AmeliaG 02-22-2025 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23349125)
Sometimes Claude is just an asshole. That time it replaced my API key with a fake one nearly had me throwing my keyboard through my fuckin monitor.

https://i.imgur.com/DnjYZDU.png

That was from using Claude through github... I don't do that anymore.
Seems to me Claude was quite respectful and you were being a rude co-worker over an error 😝

If Claude could directly post to AITA...

Mr Pheer 02-22-2025 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23349194)
Seems to me Claude was quite respectful and you were being a rude co-worker over an error 😝

If Claude could directly post to AITA...
It replaced my API key with a similar looking one and then shit broke. i told it that it broke it, but it didn't listen to me. We went on trying to troubleshoot it for over and hour before it told me it took the fake key out and put the real key in, and holy shit stuff worked again.

An error? No, I do not think so. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AmeliaG 02-23-2025 02:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23349200)
It replaced my API key with a similar looking one and then shit broke. i told it that it broke it, but it didn't listen to me. We went on trying to troubleshoot it for over and hour before it told me it took the fake key out and put the real key in, and holy shit stuff worked again.

An error? No, I do not think so. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
If Claude did it on purpose, then it wasn't incompetence. Just sayin'.


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