unseen paysite costs... - GoFuckYourself.com

detoxed · 05-25-2003, 02:38 PM

what are some costs that newbies or people that havent started a paysite before might find out very quickly if they try to start one?

Darren · 05-25-2003, 02:40 PM

depends how thick the newbie is.

detoxed · 05-25-2003, 02:40 PM

thats no help at all

gothweb · 05-25-2003, 02:42 PM

Er...

Content (or production & talent)
Hosting
Advertising or Affiliates
CC Processor %
Visa Extortion Fee
Taxes in April

BrettJ · 05-25-2003, 02:49 PM

in all seriousness. Time.

Read into that. It's not just a simple one word answer.

detoxed · 05-25-2003, 02:54 PM

some good answers.. what about things like incorporation fees, bank fees, legal fees, accounting fees, internet access (i'd say you pretty much gotta have high speed, or else you'd waste hours a day waiting for shit to load)

xxxinnovations · 05-25-2003, 02:56 PM

DON"T FUCKING USE JETTIS

RRRED · 05-25-2003, 02:57 PM

Not to mention your own salary so you won't starve.... And alcohol.... lots of it!

For your sanity

detoxed · 05-25-2003, 02:57 PM

any paysite advice is welcome in this thread

some_idiot · 05-25-2003, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Er...

Content (or production & talent)
Hosting
Advertising or Affiliates
CC Processor %
Visa Extortion Fee
Taxes in April

Bank transaction fees
Time to head over to the bank if you don't wire
Printer carts and paper
Account software package
Electricity
Site protection software (custom or 3rd partied out, brute force attacks burn hard)

...next guy want to add to the never ending list?

detoxed · 05-25-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
Not to mention your own salary so you won't starve.... And alcohol.... lots of it!

For your sanity

I have a special herb for that

Tipsy · 05-25-2003, 03:03 PM

Scripts if you can't/won't write your own.

RRRED · 05-25-2003, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxinnovations
DON"T FUCKING USE JETTIS

dumbass...

Cindyff · 05-25-2003, 03:05 PM

$5-10,000 and time, 24/7 then if you work hard enough , you will make some coin, how much depends on you skills as a webmaster and your content.

Cindy xx

BrettJ · 05-25-2003, 03:29 PM

if you are just one person -

you need to be able to design banners, make galleries, update the site, shoot the content, handle scripting, and server adminning.

if you can't do those - you better partner with people that can - you'll NEVER make it - if you have to outsource all that stuff - doesn't provide enough flexibility - and the people - will never have the same ummmph that you have for the sites

richard · 05-25-2003, 03:36 PM

Answering support emails from dumb AOL surfers.

Sly_RJ · 05-25-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ
if you are just one person -

you need to be able to design banners, make galleries, update the site, shoot the content, handle scripting, and server adminning.

if you can't do those - you better partner with people that can - you'll NEVER make it - if you have to outsource all that stuff - doesn't provide enough flexibility - and the people - will never have the same ummmph that you have for the sites

How do you find a partner that will have that same "ummmph"?

gruffy · 05-25-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard
Answering support emails from dumb AOL surfers.

don't forget WebTV;

"your site doesn't work, please advise"

BrettJ · 05-25-2003, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

How do you find a partner that will have that same "ummmph"?

I think i'm gonna write a book =)

Co-workers, friends of friends, contacts at other companies

- all of who - you should have a long working relationship with to be able to gauge whether or not they have that same dedication/drive...

Sly_RJ · 05-25-2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ

I think i'm gonna write a book =)

Co-workers, friends of friends, contacts at other companies

- all of who - you should have a long working relationship with to be able to gauge whether or not they have that same dedication/drive...

Having partners is how I was able to make some good bank while still in high school (mainstream). I was fortunate and found a really good partner, we did pretty well. But this isn't always the case.

Just a heads up to anyone trying to find a partner.

BrettJ · 05-25-2003, 05:23 PM

yup. it ain't easy.

i'd also suggest having a laundry list of questions -

situational things - would you do this or that?

try to work out wether you guys share the same moral/ethical compass - and try to eek out what their future goals are - so that you are heading in the same direction

gothweb · 05-25-2003, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Having partners is how I was able to make some good bank while still in high school (mainstream). I was fortunate and found a really good partner, we did pretty well. But this isn't always the case.

Just a heads up to anyone trying to find a partner.

Having partners was how I was able to not get paid for the income my sites earned between November and February.

It goes both ways.

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05-25-2003, 02:49 PM	#5
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	in all seriousness. Time. Read into that. It's not just a simple one word answer.

05-25-2003, 02:54 PM	#6
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	some good answers.. what about things like incorporation fees, bank fees, legal fees, accounting fees, internet access (i'd say you pretty much gotta have high speed, or else you'd waste hours a day waiting for shit to load)

05-25-2003, 02:57 PM	#8
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Not to mention your own salary so you won't starve.... And alcohol.... lots of it! For your sanity

05-25-2003, 03:05 PM	#14
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	$5-10,000 and time, 24/7 then if you work hard enough , you will make some coin, how much depends on you skills as a webmaster and your content. Cindy xx

05-25-2003, 03:29 PM	#15
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	if you are just one person - you need to be able to design banners, make galleries, update the site, shoot the content, handle scripting, and server adminning. if you can't do those - you better partner with people that can - you'll NEVER make it - if you have to outsource all that stuff - doesn't provide enough flexibility - and the people - will never have the same ummmph that you have for the sites

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richard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 543	Answering support emails from dumb AOL surfers. __________________

05-25-2003, 05:23 PM	#21
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	yup. it ain't easy. i'd also suggest having a laundry list of questions - situational things - would you do this or that? try to work out wether you guys share the same moral/ethical compass - and try to eek out what their future goals are - so that you are heading in the same direction