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Old 05-24-2003, 05:40 PM   #1
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Opera is a pile of shit

I changed some setting in IE6, can't figure out how to reverse it, so I took the short route and installed Opera.

I have to say... what a fucking pile of shit. There were problems with the installer (stalled at 100% so I had to retry again and again and again) and it even crashed on me. It's supposed to be fast? It's not. IE6 is easily the fastest brower I've used.

IE6 is king.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:41 PM   #2
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Opera used to be good when it was slim and fast, but it was buggy as hell. Now it looks good and doesn't crash but is too filled up with stupid, slow and useless features.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:44 PM   #3
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Opera sucks... Gives us developers a pain in the ass for those nerd fags trying to be different by not using IE or Netscape.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:45 PM   #4
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i use it for surfing..fucking fast as hell though
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:46 PM   #5
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Opera sucks... Gives us developers a pain in the ass for those nerd fags trying to be different by not using IE or Netscape.
True. I hate fucking coding for that 1%.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:47 PM   #6
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i use it for surfing..fucking fast as hell though
I still don't think it's worth it... Why surf 10% faster when half the sites you go to have errors and messed up layers and tables.

Anyways, if you have broadband, you won't notice much of a difference if you use Opera.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:47 PM   #7
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dont think I have heard of opera until now.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:49 PM   #8
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In a perfect world everyone would run IE 6. This isn't a perfect world.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:51 PM   #9
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In a perfect world everyone would run IE 6. This isn't a perfect world.
You have an odd definition of perfect
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:51 PM   #10
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In a perfect world everyone would run Lynx. This isn't a perfect world.
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:54 PM   #11
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Obviously everyone using IE 6 would not result in it being a perfect world, but I think in a perfect world everyone would use IE 6, or whatever the equivalent is at that time.

Yes, Lynx rocks. I don't think plain text is all that pleasing to the eye, though.
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Old 05-24-2003, 06:36 PM   #12
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I've been using Opera for over a year. Never seen a popup since. The only problem with Opera is that some pages (few) aren't displayed correctly but that is the coder (webmaster)'s fault and not the programmers of Opera's fault. I still use IE for testing pages I coded and things like that but I would use Opera exclusively if I could. Best and fastest browser on the market.
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Old 05-24-2003, 07:09 PM   #13
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Opera sucks... Gives us developers a pain in the ass for those nerd fags trying to be different by not using IE or Netscape.
Yeah, right, there's something wrong with those of us who don't always use Micro$oft programs. Whatever.

Get Mozilla, it owns.

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Old 05-24-2003, 07:58 PM   #14
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Mozilla is a bigger pile than Opera.

Stick with IE6, and dump Avant on top of it to add all the features IE has yet to implement.
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:09 PM   #15
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Opera > IE.
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:13 PM   #16
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I like Opera. People go on about how you have to code for the 1%, blah blah blah. If you code correctly, and within the w3 HTML standards, your pages will look the same in Opera as they do in IE. It's just a lot more strict in the way it renders HTML. Less "default" properties, i've noticed.
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:30 PM   #17
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Opera doesn't handle java/js well. Mozilla/Netscape do not handle i f r a m e s well. Make your stuff work with IE and test with Mozilla/Netscape.
If you need or build with js, Opera is not an option as of v7.0 at least.
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:43 PM   #18
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Old 05-24-2003, 09:48 PM   #19
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In a perfect world everyone would run Lynx. This isn't a perfect world.
Fuck lynx. In a perfect world everyone would issue the raw http commands...

root@home:/root# telnet bbs.gofuckyourself.com 80
Trying 66.60.188.13...
Connected to bbs.gofuckyourself.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: bbs.gofuckyourself.com
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Old 05-24-2003, 10:02 PM   #20
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OHHH!
Opera the BROWSER.

I was thinking this thread was about OPRAH!

Nevermind!
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Old 05-24-2003, 10:15 PM   #21
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IE6 rulez all

use IE and build for IE
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Old 05-24-2003, 10:18 PM   #22
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IE6 all the way
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Old 05-24-2003, 10:18 PM   #23
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Fuck lynx. In a perfect world everyone would issue the raw http commands...

root@home:/root# telnet bbs.gofuckyourself.com 80
Trying 66.60.188.13...
Connected to bbs.gofuckyourself.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: bbs.gofuckyourself.com
Real men use 1s and 0s only.
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Old 05-24-2003, 10:42 PM   #24
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dont think I have heard of opera until now.
Go back under your rock.
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