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  • D Ghost
    null
    • May 2006
    • 9820
    #51
    Originally posted by mrmarlowe
    I've been with Mojo Host for about 7 years. They are brilliant. Their support has always been fantastic. I would recommend them to anyone. They might actually be the best on the net. Have never had any problem with them and I have used their support so many times. They have always done their best to help me and have actually done things for me that really I should have paid a developer to do.
    They aren't brilliant. They talk shit about cloud hosting like AWS (like the article Brad wrote in Xbiz). It's because they are mad that they didn't do that or keep up with it. Sad.

    Our newest project is already built and will launch soon from AWS. And the reason it will ultimately cost more is because they don't fuck around. And yes we want to scale. In Brad's article, he says "Small sites" don't need AWS. Yeah ok, who is building a site to NOT scale??

    It's not crazy, he's obviously trying to get people to not advance and go with higher-tech players: https://www.xbiz.com/features/275931...-hosting-costs but come on, really your going to talk shit about AWS? Lol. This whole article he wrote is meant to SCARE people and companies from moving to AWS. But if you set it up correctly, which we are because we have a dedicated DevOps team, then you will not be overcharged.

    Small sites SHOULD use AWS, it's actually even better, you might pay a tiny bit extra, but so what, then you don't have to migrate entire bare metal server setups. You're in a position to scale.

    Actively discouraging people from going with superior technology and actively pushing inferior setups is not responsible and it's dangerous.

    Do you know we've had to move/upgrade server setups like FOUR times with them? Yeah, that doesn't happen on a proper cloud setup like AWS offers.

    The reason we picked AWS is because they are on the bleeding edge of what you can do basically. Of course, the caveat is you have to set it up right or hire someone who knows, a good DevOps engineer.

    MojoHost is behind. Anyone who argues this clearly has no clue wtf they are talking about.

    We will soon move everything over to AWS.

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      • D Ghost
        null
        • May 2006
        • 9820
        #52
        Originally posted by emmasexytime
        Try any other hosting and you could be offline for 4 days instead of 4 hrs.

        Mojo have been great for us I am told.
        Try AWS and you won't be down for even 10 minutes a year. Mojo is old tech.

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          • Kittens
            👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏
            • Jan 2016
            • 1440
            #53
            Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
            Hi David,

            We take posts and feedback like this very seriously. It's always our goal to provide quick and accurate technical support. While this is typically the case, infrequently mistakes are made by people. We take pride in owning these mistakes if they happen and in providing a truthful, honest discourse with our customers. I'd like to provide some of that transparency here since we are having an open discussion.

            I'm typically not keen on pointing fingers, but I feel the need to clear the air here. The broader, outage inducing issue that you faced was not brought about by lack of action from our team. Our technical team made the appropriate changes to files as necessary to support the changes you were trying to make. We performed these actions quickly and accurately, verifying our work after it was complete. The files in question were subsequently overwritten by your team via a git code push. Your team then raised a separate support ticket indicating that some thumbnails were not loading and that they suspected there was a CDN issue. Our team jumped into action and began diagnosing this issue.

            I absolutely would have liked to have seen a faster resolution to your problem. I would have liked for our team to have provided you with more transparency on what they were working on behind the scenes. In a perfect world, this could have been a very quick fix. We didn't immediately jump to the conclusion that our customer had overwritten critical site files with incorrect values.

            We've worked together for quite some time now, and I would expect that you would be familiar with the many ways in which you can contact us or escalate an issue. Starting a post on a forum isn't solution oriented or even the fastest way to resolve an issue. I am, however, glad that we are having this discussion so that others are able to recognize just how accessible our team is. Our team is available via the traditional ticketing system, but they are also available via phone 24x7. Our phone number is readily available on our website and every technician signs their replies with their direct extension (management team members include their mobile numbers). Additionally, you can raise an alarm by logging into our secure support portal and pressing the "emergency button" that pages all on-duty staff members. When this happens, it's expected that our support team has eyes on the issue within 60 seconds.

            Sincerely,

            Brad
            Jesus christ, not only are you incompetent but you come here barking at Mojo for your own mistakes? bahhha.

            I wouldn't even reply here or in your ticket, just refund you per my refund policy and thank you for your previous business and let you know we are no longer doing business together.

            And before you get uppity, nobody owes you anything. The fact that YOUR team fucked up your own website and expect THEM to fix it is absolutely astounding in 2023.

            I've never seen any hosting providers who fix your website mistakes. They provide the servers, what you do with it after that falls on you.

            Pro tip: AWS won't fix this shit for you either, so maybe stop thumping your chest about how fucking great of a programmer you are and fix your own fuckups.

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              • sarettah
                see you later, I'm gone
                • Oct 2002
                • 14302
                #54
                Originally posted by D Ghost
                Try AWS and you won't be down for even 10 minutes a year. Mojo is old tech.
                https://apnews.com/article/amazon-ou...55683830a409c3

                Amazon says AWS is operating normally after outage that left publishers unable to operate websites


                Published 4:59 PM CDT, June 13, 2023
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                SEATTLE (AP) — Amazon’s cloud computing unit Amazon Web Services experienced an outage on Tuesday, affecting publishers that suddenly found themselves unable to operate their sites.

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Tuesday’s outage was first confirmed shortly after 3 p.m. ET. and it was unclear how widespread the problem extended. But many companies, including news organizations such as The Verge and Penn Live, said they were experiencing issues. The Associated Press was also hampered by the outage, unable to operate their sites amid breaking news that former President Donald Trump was appearing in court in Miami.

                ----------------------------------------------------

                The episode on Tuesday is reminiscent of a much longer AWS outage in December 2021, which affected a host of U.S. companies for more than five hours.
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                  • Kittens
                    👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 1440
                    #55
                    Originally posted by sarettah
                    https://apnews.com/article/amazon-ou...55683830a409c3
                    Lmfao right, I thought this was hilarious too.

                    I bet Mojo has better uptime than AWS does.

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                      • Wautier
                        pleb
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 218
                        #56
                        I'm inclined to agree with D Ghost here in spite of the git push mistake. Mojohost is a managed provider, and as such, it's meant to help resolve issues whether they are mistakes that result from complete and utter incompetence or something that happened because of a library update, or similar.

                        Key factor here is that you are paying premium prices, and it's clearly not a premium service. But just about everyone from the adult industry knows that, and avoids it for the same reason.

                        It's good if you have simple requirements and low traffic, but it's absolutely not what you need if you're pushing hundreds of TB's or PB's in bandwidth.

                        The only thing that will help you there is having your own sysadmin(s), and not the type you get from Freelancer.com, unfortunately.
                        Sorrow and solitude, these are the precious things, and the only words that are worth rememberin'

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                          • Wtify
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 156
                            #57
                            FYI if you want to get really upset I suggest you to get a vps or ded with another hoster here ... their name starts with M but it's not Mojo, obviously.

                            I got a fully managed solution. Asked what was the full path to the document dir of a given domain and they replied "ask to your script developer, we don't do assistance for 3rd party script". So I kindly explained them that it was a general info about the server. Once again they replied "ask your script developer".

                            So I got access via ssh and got the full path.

                            Obviously they will loose my business.

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                              • Kittens
                                👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 1440
                                #58
                                Originally posted by Wtify
                                FYI if you want to get really upset I suggest you to get a vps or ded with another hoster here ... their name starts with M but it's not Mojo, obviously.

                                I got a fully managed solution. Asked what was the full path to the document dir of a given domain and they replied "ask to your script developer, we don't do assistance for 3rd party script". So I kindly explained them that it was a general info about the server. Once again they replied "ask your script developer".

                                So I got access via ssh and got the full path.

                                Obviously they will loose my business.
                                I'm sure they'll be fine without your $17/mo.

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                                  • redwhiteandblue
                                    Bollocks
                                    • Jun 2007
                                    • 2793
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by Wtify
                                    FYI if you want to get really upset I suggest you to get a vps or ded with another hoster here ... their name starts with M but it's not Mojo, obviously.

                                    I got a fully managed solution. Asked what was the full path to the document dir of a given domain and they replied "ask to your script developer, we don't do assistance for 3rd party script". So I kindly explained them that it was a general info about the server. Once again they replied "ask your script developer".

                                    So I got access via ssh and got the full path.

                                    Obviously they will loose my business.
                                    Dude, just upload a script with "phpInfo();" in it and it will tell you the path, you don't need to bother tech support with things like that.
                                    Interserver unmanaged AMD Ryzen servers from $73.00

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                                      • 2MuchMark
                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 50981
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by D Ghost
                                        They aren't brilliant. They talk shit about cloud hosting like AWS (like the article Brad wrote in Xbiz). It's because they are mad that they didn't do that or keep up with it. Sad.

                                        Our newest project is already built and will launch soon from AWS. And the reason it will ultimately cost more is because they don't fuck around. And yes we want to scale. In Brad's article, he says "Small sites" don't need AWS. Yeah ok, who is building a site to NOT scale??

                                        It's not crazy, he's obviously trying to get people to not advance and go with higher-tech players: https://www.xbiz.com/features/275931...-hosting-costs but come on, really your going to talk shit about AWS? Lol. This whole article he wrote is meant to SCARE people and companies from moving to AWS. But if you set it up correctly, which we are because we have a dedicated DevOps team, then you will not be overcharged.

                                        Small sites SHOULD use AWS, it's actually even better, you might pay a tiny bit extra, but so what, then you don't have to migrate entire bare metal server setups. You're in a position to scale.

                                        Actively discouraging people from going with superior technology and actively pushing inferior setups is not responsible and it's dangerous.

                                        Do you know we've had to move/upgrade server setups like FOUR times with them? Yeah, that doesn't happen on a proper cloud setup like AWS offers.

                                        The reason we picked AWS is because they are on the bleeding edge of what you can do basically. Of course, the caveat is you have to set it up right or hire someone who knows, a good DevOps engineer.

                                        MojoHost is behind. Anyone who argues this clearly has no clue wtf they are talking about.

                                        We will soon move everything over to AWS.
                                        I absolutely love AWS. When Covid hit I was helping some of my mainstream customer move their on-prem servers to the cloud which I mentioned previously. Some were on Microsoft Azure and some were on AWS, and both were flawless. I like Azure for security, but AWS seems to have more resources. There interfaces are similar too but AWS was easier to use overall.

                                        Originally posted by emmasexytime
                                        Try any other hosting and you could be offline for 4 days instead of 4 hrs.
                                        If you migrate your stuff properly, you shouldn't be down for even a milisecond. Where some people make mistakes here is by not planning properly. Planning properly saves time later.

                                        Originally posted by Wtify
                                        I got a fully managed solution.
                                        Managed hosting solutions are ideal for many businesses, but not for all.

                                        When you opt for a managed hosting solution, you often pay a premium for the service, even though it might be used infrequently and isn't dedicated solely to your projects and business. For many small businesses, this arrangement works well.

                                        However, as a business grows, there may come a time when you need a dedicated manager familiar with every aspect of your system. Managed hosting providers typically can't offer this level of personalized service. Therefore, it becomes logical to consider hiring an in-house IT specialist to oversee operations. At this juncture, the value proposition of managed hosting diminishes, and unmanaged cloud-based services like AWS begin to appear more attractive.

                                        Besides the usual money saves such as Pay-as-you-go pricing and no overhead for management services, services like AWS excel at scalability, competition & innovation, and global reach. Need to deploy a server in some country? Need to add redundancy? Click-click-click and done. Love it.

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                                          • D Ghost
                                            null
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 9820
                                            #61
                                            Demand better from major tech players in this space.

                                            Anyone in here defending MojoHost blindly is clearly okay with mediocrity. 98% of the people defending them do not even currently have a hosting account with them or never have. That's the absurdity. So basically, it's sheep just repeating and bleating what they've herd (pun intended) which is "MojoHost can do no wrong! MojoHost good!"

                                            For the record, I am not saying people at MojoHost are bad. That is not the case. This is not an insult to the character of individuals. this is a critique of business processes. I am simply trying to point out that the way things are being done is not viable unless you support mediocrity. You have to look outside this industry bubble that you are in and see how things are being done in the mainstream.

                                            These are not people you want working with your business. These people are OK with the status quo, they don't like change. They are too lazy to do things better. They are afraid of advancement. Not even innovation. Even just implementing better tools that other people already innovated and created! Oh. but wait. it will take actual WORK, to do that. That means no more resting on your laurels. Sipping cocktails at an industry tradeshow while you espouse the benefits of your outdated platform and infrastructure.

                                            And mediocrity has been a virus in this industry for at least 15 years now.

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                                              • D Ghost
                                                null
                                                • May 2006
                                                • 9820
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Kittens
                                                Lmfao right, I thought this was hilarious too.

                                                I bet Mojo has better uptime than AWS does.
                                                No, they don't, our site had issues for 4 hours. Look like Amazon fixed these issues in half the time (2 hours) or less.

                                                Literally providing you the hard evidence that some people are choosing to ignore because: "All hail the great mojoHost who can do no wrong."

                                                By the way, this demonstrates you don't understand the difference in technology-wise. MojoHost doesn't want you to pay attention to the fact that at AWS you only pay for what you need. And you can easily scale. You don't have to "move servers' - with MojoHost you will have to physically move servers multiple times like we have which is a huge pain in the ass and creates downtime.

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                                                  • D Ghost
                                                    null
                                                    • May 2006
                                                    • 9820
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by sarettah
                                                    https://apnews.com/article/amazon-ou...55683830a409c3
                                                    Our site had issues for 4 hours. Look like Amazon fixed these issues in half the time (2 hours) or less.

                                                    Literally providing you the hard evidence that some people are choosing to ignore because: "All hail the great mojoHost who can do no wrong."

                                                    By the way, this demonstrates you don't understand the difference in technology-wise. MojoHost doesn't want you to pay attention to the fact that at AWS you only pay for what you need. And you can easily scale. You don't have to "move servers' - with MojoHost you will have to physically move servers multiple times like we have which is a huge pain in the ass and creates downtime.

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                                                      • D Ghost
                                                        null
                                                        • May 2006
                                                        • 9820
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Kittens
                                                        Jesus christ, not only are you incompetent but you come here barking at Mojo for your own mistakes? bahhha.

                                                        I wouldn't even reply here or in your ticket, just refund you per my refund policy and thank you for your previous business and let you know we are no longer doing business together.

                                                        And before you get uppity, nobody owes you anything. The fact that YOUR team fucked up your own website and expect THEM to fix it is absolutely astounding in 2023.

                                                        I've never seen any hosting providers who fix your website mistakes. They provide the servers, what you do with it after that falls on you.

                                                        Pro tip: AWS won't fix this shit for you either, so maybe stop thumping your chest about how fucking great of a programmer you are and fix your own fuckups.
                                                        If you're not going to read our responses to it, then just stop participating gin this thread.

                                                        Oh would it be that easy for you, you must have a tiny hosting bill of under $4000 a month.

                                                        Yeah, that's the deal with MojoHost, they are supposed to have 24/7 support with sysadmins. Again, you clearly have NO CLUE wtf you are talking about so why ar eyou here?

                                                        Notice the below with my bullet points and after an investigation fro a 3rd party tech partner of ours that the fault of ALL this started with Mojo's allowance of anyone to free and clear access our videos outside the members area



                                                        ---

                                                        Currently, they have not made it right. They have issued zero apologies. Offers zero monetary credit. And have only pointed fingers at us and the CDN provider. They don't take responsibility for their actions (or inactions).

                                                        There is no arguing that not hearing back from a MojoHost support tech for 4 hours, not even an update, when all images website are not loading, is unacceptable. Are you going to argue that that's ok now?


                                                        The issues:

                                                        1.) MojoHost by default ignored our .htaccess rules on each video and allowed pirates to access our videos through their Highwinds CDN. The pirates were able to download and distribute untraceable videos, that would have been traceable if Mojo had respected the .htaccess we implemented. Also, this was allowed OUTSIDE of the member's area.

                                                        (Also, for those who will whine "YOU NEED TO SIGN to get access to the video via CDN!" Well, guess what, MD5 has been crackable by hackers now for a while, since 2005 I think, and this is what MojoHost relies on. So also they are insecure.)

                                                        2.) Mojo was instructed to change the secret on the CDN. Their techs don't share notes, so when things were over written by our developer, the Mojo tech who responded to our ticket about the images being down for 4 hours didn't know that a secret was changed. They should have shared logs on each clients account. Then the tech would have immediately realized that the hook tpl needed updated again. Instead they wasted time blaming the CDN provider. This is their mistake.

                                                        3.) Regardless of any of the above. Our dev team created a ticket regarding images being inaccessible on our 4 sites. And... 4 hours later we had 0 response or update from Mojo team. This is unacceptable. And this has happened several times over the years where they do t respond for 1-2 hours with ANY UPDATE ON STATUS. This one is the worst because it's never taken 4 hours. Only after I message 3-4 people and created this post on forum did they respond.

                                                        Are you going to keep blindly defending them like some other people?

                                                        And guess what? Your business better be pretty damn close to perfect as possible if you are involved with infrastructure and operations.

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                                                          • sarettah
                                                            see you later, I'm gone
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14302
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                            Our site had issues for 4 hours. Look like Amazon fixed these issues in half the time (2 hours) or less.

                                                            You stated:
                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                            Try AWS and you won't be down for even 10 minutes a year.

                                                            That is what I was replying to. But nice try at moving those goal posts.


                                                            From December 2022:
                                                            https://www.networkworld.com/article...0and%20Spotify.

                                                            Outages around this time of the year are starting to become a regular occurrence for AWS.

                                                            Last December, just after the annual re:Invent conference, the company suffered an outage at its North Virginia region, disrupting services for more than six hours and impacting thousands of AWS customers including Delta, Southwest Airlines, and Spotify.

                                                            -----------------------------------------

                                                            Similarly, in 2020, the company saw its Amazon Kinesis being disrupted on November 25. This disruption lasted for over four hours, according to a blog post released by the company.
                                                            So, there, now you see that AWS sometimes goes down for over 2 hours too.

                                                            My point is every hosting solution has down time at some point so to claim that you won't even be down for 10 minutes a year is at best an exaggeration.
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                                                              • Kittens
                                                                👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏
                                                                • Jan 2016
                                                                • 1440
                                                                #66
                                                                Bro would rather write long winded blog posts replies instead of admit he made a mistake and took his own site down.

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                                                                  • D Ghost
                                                                    null
                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                    • 9820
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Kittens
                                                                    Bro would rather write long-winded blog post replies instead of admit he made a mistake and took his own site down.
                                                                    You'd rather ignore the facts and defend your host blindly because it's embarrassing for you to admit otherwise. How much is your hosting bill honey?

                                                                    We did not take our own site down. They did. And then they left it down for 4 hours. And they've done this before where it's taken hours to get things back online. Multiple times. We never came out publicly because we gave them the benefit of the doubt. But now we have had enough.

                                                                    You happily slurping up Brad's spin (not even a clever spin) on it shows you're not as smart as you think you are. Please comment on things you know about and stop commenting on things you have no clue about.

                                                                    You don't make yourself look good. I can tell you of at least 4 behind-the-scenes technical experts who agree with me on MojoHost's failings and general position of being outdated. You are not on the right side.

                                                                    Maybe MojoHost is ok with someone like you who barely has any traffic and a very small hosting bill. But when you get to our scale they clearly can't handle it.

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                                                                      • D Ghost
                                                                        null
                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                        • 9820
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                        What is ticket # again ? ?

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                                                                          • NatalieK
                                                                            Natalie K
                                                                            • Apr 2010
                                                                            • 20118
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                            It's been over 4 hours that we've had images missing from the site. They clearly don't take their client's sites seriously, when customer-facing content is inaccessible and we are losing sales and pissing off our customers and potential customers.


                                                                            Then I sent one of the MojoHost techs a URL to a previous ticket to investigate (the URL has the ticket # and ID in the URL) and he seriously asked me "What is the ticket #?"

                                                                            Are you fkm.

                                                                            This is the type of people they have working there?
                                                                            I haven´t found the time line the same, but similar with hostgator...

                                                                            we set up our blog, had everything sorted & needed to check on the database. so added a ticket and they asked for all the info, name of site, name of owner, name of everything your life contains and when a guy comes and answers your ticket, he asks all those same questions again...

                                                                            lol, ffs, just put me through to some one next time and ask the appropriate questions once...
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                                                                              • D Ghost
                                                                                null
                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                • 9820
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by NatalieK
                                                                                I haven´t found the time line the same, but similar with hostgator...

                                                                                we set up our blog, had everything sorted & needed to check on the database. so added a ticket and they asked for all the info, name of site, name of owner, name of everything your life contains and when a guy comes and answers your ticket, he asks all those same questions again...

                                                                                lol, ffs, just put me through to some one next time and ask the appropriate questions once...

                                                                                Agreed, pure idiocy.

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                                                                                  • 2MuchMark
                                                                                    Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 50981
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    It's too bad that this is happening to D Ghost or anyone. This is a good opportunity for all of us to learn from the experience. What kind of backup or distaster recovery plan does your hosting provider offer you? And maybe more importantly, what kind of backup do you have at home?

                                                                                    Personally I have a local backup for all of the stuff on my home devices, but what I should really have is a a second, online backup too. I keep going to do it but somehow never get started.

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                                                                                      • D Ghost
                                                                                        null
                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                        • 9820
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Thanks, Mark, everyone should always review their current tech stack and infrastructure providers in great detail.

                                                                                        A few good questions to start with...
                                                                                        - How has your current host config'd your servers?
                                                                                        - What are their processes when it comes to handling emergencies?
                                                                                        - Response times?
                                                                                        - Is information about client accounts shared between support staff?

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                                                                                          • Killswitch
                                                                                            REVOLUTIONARY
                                                                                            • Oct 2012
                                                                                            • 2573
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                            You'd rather ignore the facts and defend your host blindly because it's embarrassing for you to admit otherwise. How much is your hosting bill honey?

                                                                                            We did not take our own site down. They did. And then they left it down for 4 hours. And they've done this before where it's taken hours to get things back online. Multiple times. We never came out publicly because we gave them the benefit of the doubt. But now we have had enough.

                                                                                            You happily slurping up Brad's spin (not even a clever spin) on it shows you're not as smart as you think you are. Please comment on things you know about and stop commenting on things you have no clue about.

                                                                                            You don't make yourself look good. I can tell you of at least 4 behind-the-scenes technical experts who agree with me on MojoHost's failings and general position of being outdated. You are not on the right side.

                                                                                            Maybe MojoHost is ok with someone like you who barely has any traffic and a very small hosting bill. But when you get to our scale they clearly can't handle it.
                                                                                            hOw mUcH Is yOuR HoStInG BiLl hOnEy?

                                                                                            bahahaha, bro you don't even want to know, considering I run two hosting companies, one is akin to Netlify and another to Vercel/Render/Heroku.

                                                                                            Let's just say I have customers that do more than your monthly bill in usage a week.

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                                                                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                • 50981
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                hOw mUcH Is yOuR HoStInG BiLl hOnEy?

                                                                                                bahahaha, bro you don't even want to know, considering I run two hosting companies, one is akin to Netlify and another to Vercel/Render/Heroku.

                                                                                                Let's just say I have customers that do more than your monthly bill in usage a week.
                                                                                                Come on man, that's not cool. Everyone in this industry occasionally needs tech assistance. We've all faced challenging moments that pushed us to change service providers or payment processors, and I'm certain you've experienced this too. When things go wrong, it's easy to feel isolated and overwhelmed, which can lead to poor choices.

                                                                                                Recently, I've assisted a few people here at no cost, and it's truly not a big deal. Differences in opinions on certain threads or parts of GFY shouldn't prevent us from helping one another out.



                                                                                                PS Your new avatar is hilarious! - good find.

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                                                                                                  • Killswitch
                                                                                                    REVOLUTIONARY
                                                                                                    • Oct 2012
                                                                                                    • 2573
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                    Come on man, that's not cool. Everyone in this industry occasionally needs tech assistance. We've all faced challenging moments that pushed us to change service providers or payment processors, and I'm certain you've experienced this too. When things go wrong, it's easy to feel isolated and overwhelmed, which can lead to poor choices.

                                                                                                    Recently, I've assisted a few people here at no cost, and it's truly not a big deal. Differences in opinions on certain threads or parts of GFY shouldn't prevent us from helping one another out.



                                                                                                    PS Your new avatar is hilarious! - good find.
                                                                                                    Normally I'd agree with you, but this guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, fucked up and put the blame on Mojo. Anyone who isn't as braindead as this guy is knows he fucked up, but he's doubling down because he's definitely one of those "I pay $20/mo and demand you be at my beck and call at all times or I'm going to leave for someone else!"

                                                                                                    Fucking good, if I was Brad I wouldn't have even responded here, I would have just refunded his past 30 day bill and said "Sorry we're not a good fit." and shut his services down.

                                                                                                    Just because you pay to use my services doesn't mean you get to berate me and behave that way. Just like you can be fired by your employer you can be fired by a provider of a service. They owe you NOTHING.

                                                                                                    "Customer is always right" is how you get Karen's like Dick Farm Dunn here.

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                                                                                                      • ladida
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                                        • 2179
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                                                        D Ghosts, some questions for you.
                                                                                                        Lol, reading these questions and "advices" is like reading someone just learning about what shell is and *nix world, but posting them as some secret knowledge of the inner circle noone tells you about.
                                                                                                        Bro, what you wrote knows anyone that even knows what ssh is.

                                                                                                        Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                        So we want to know why is it the default of your system to ignore .htaccess files? The whole point of them is to place rules to be abided by.
                                                                                                        Whoever set you up with .htaccess needs to update their tech Get a proper sysadmin to set you up with web serving platform that doesn't rely on .htaccess please.
                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                        so you can switch your IP over in an emergency.
                                                                                                        this is a 5 minute solution you can control without waiting for any hosting support. just keep your TTL low on the domain.
                                                                                                        And then this advice )))))))))))))) Yea, domains propagate in 5 mins. Gl with those advices to your customers, whoever that may be. Half the globe will propagate them in 24hr AT LEAST and you can put that TTL and tie it over your head cause it will be equally useful there as on your domain.
                                                                                                        agentGFY *at* gmail.com

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                                                                                                          • D Ghost
                                                                                                            null
                                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                                            • 9820
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            I would like to provide an update on the situation specifically regarding MojoHost...

                                                                                                            MojoHost and our team had a great video call and came to an understanding. Brad and James were on and they addressed our concerns appropriately and directly. We commend them for getting on this call and facing the issues head-on.

                                                                                                            We also learned of some advanced tech they are working on and I would like to point out that I believe they are one of the few companies evolving and upgrading their tech as fast as possible in the industry.

                                                                                                            I do realize I can be very hard on people and companies -- I expect greatness and high performance. I believe MojoHost demonstrated that greatness today by participating in this conference call with our team. Because of the call with MojoHost, I was able to better see things from their point-of-view and they were able to see things from our point-of-view too.

                                                                                                            None of this was ever personal. Let's all work together moving forward and do the best that we all can together. Let's share information and learn in a positive way. Not by tearing each other down but with open, honest, and respectful communication.

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                                                                                                              • mainstreammix
                                                                                                                Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                                • May 2022
                                                                                                                • 11191
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                Fucking noob. About the time you were born I was coding on a TRS-80.
                                                                                                                Me too and I didn't have any way to save so I had to recode it every time I booted up.

                                                                                                                First game I made on my own accord was Russian Roulette.
                                                                                                                Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                                  • mainstreammix
                                                                                                                    Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                                    • May 2022
                                                                                                                    • 11191
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Tjeezers
                                                                                                                    You're one of those individuals I, unfortunately, know too well—sending lengthy emails, using lofty language, and acting as though you're the captain of an industry as if your word is the final say.


                                                                                                                    You must think he only spends $4000 a month on hosting or something...
                                                                                                                    Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                                      • Killswitch
                                                                                                                        REVOLUTIONARY
                                                                                                                        • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                        • 2573
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                        I would like to provide an update on the situation specifically regarding MojoHost...

                                                                                                                        MojoHost and our team had a great video call and came to an understanding. Brad and James were on and they addressed our concerns appropriately and directly. We commend them for getting on this call and facing the issues head-on.

                                                                                                                        We also learned of some advanced tech they are working on and I would like to point out that I believe they are one of the few companies evolving and upgrading their tech as fast as possible in the industry.

                                                                                                                        I do realize I can be very hard on people and companies -- I expect greatness and high performance. I believe MojoHost demonstrated that greatness today by participating in this conference call with our team. Because of the call with MojoHost, I was able to better see things from their point-of-view and they were able to see things from our point-of-view too.

                                                                                                                        None of this was ever personal. Let's all work together moving forward and do the best that we all can together. Let's share information and learn in a positive way. Not by tearing each other down but with open, honest, and respectful communication.

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                                                                                                                          • mainstreammix
                                                                                                                            Make GFY Great Again
                                                                                                                            • May 2022
                                                                                                                            • 11191
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                            hOw mUcH Is yOuR HoStInG BiLl hOnEy?

                                                                                                                            bahahaha, bro you don't even want to know, considering I run two hosting companies, one is akin to Netlify and another to Vercel/Render/Heroku.

                                                                                                                            Let's just say I have customers that do more than your monthly bill in usage a week.
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                            Normally I'd agree with you, but this guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, fucked up and put the blame on Mojo. Anyone who isn't as braindead as this guy is knows he fucked up, but he's doubling down because he's definitely one of those "I pay $20/mo and demand you be at my beck and call at all times or I'm going to leave for someone else!"

                                                                                                                            Fucking good, if I was Brad I wouldn't have even responded here, I would have just refunded his past 30 day bill and said "Sorry we're not a good fit." and shut his services down.

                                                                                                                            Just because you pay to use my services doesn't mean you get to berate me and behave that way. Just like you can be fired by your employer you can be fired by a provider of a service. They owe you NOTHING.

                                                                                                                            "Customer is always right" is how you get Karen's like Dick Farm Dunn here.
                                                                                                                            I'm not going to say you're full of shit but my full of shit meter went off and I have literally never been wrong.
                                                                                                                            Stop asking me about AI, the answer is yes.

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                                                                                                                              • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                null
                                                                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                                                                • 9820
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                I encourage you to look deeply within yourself and see where the hatred for yourself lies. Maybe try meditating. You can learn a lot about yourself that way.

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                                                                                                                                  • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                    null
                                                                                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                                                                                    • 9820
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                                                                                                                    I'm not going to say you're full of shit but my full of shit meter went off and I have literally never been wrong.
                                                                                                                                    Don't worry. They have no clue about anything business-related. You can tell by the way they talk. Don't waste your time on them.

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                                                                                                                                      • Killswitch
                                                                                                                                        REVOLUTIONARY
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                        • 2573
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by mainstreammix
                                                                                                                                        I'm not going to say you're full of shit but my full of shit meter went off and I have literally never been wrong.
                                                                                                                                        Welp you're wrong.

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                                                                                                                                          • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 94735
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                            . . .

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                            None of this was ever personal. Let's all work together moving forward and do the best that we all can together. Let's share information and learn in a positive way. Not by tearing each other down but with open, honest, and respectful communication.
                                                                                                                                            Glad you've got your happy ending . . .

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                                                                                                                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 50981
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                                Normally I'd agree with you, but this guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, fucked up and put the blame on Mojo. Anyone who isn't as braindead as this guy is knows he fucked up, but he's doubling down because he's definitely one of those "I pay $20/mo and demand you be at my beck and call at all times or I'm going to leave for someone else!"
                                                                                                                                                Normally I would agree with that as I have seen and heard that kind of thing several times. You could be right, or, it could be a goof at Mojo.

                                                                                                                                                Regardless though, it isn't really the point anymore. What we could do is try to help him out by determinng the source of the problem even though he's already moving to AWS. It may not help him or Mojo out but it could be useful to someone else here.

                                                                                                                                                For example, for the longest time I had issues with CORS policies, leaving me and my programmers scratching their heads. The issue in the end was with the hosting provider's configuration of our servers. No one was mad at anyone but it took longer to fix than necessary.

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                                ...Just because you pay to use my services doesn't mean you get to berate me and behave that way.
                                                                                                                                                Very true, but that is where expert-level customer service should have kicked-in, but might not have.

                                                                                                                                                Regardless of the problem, a customer is upset. The first thing to do is call him, listen to the issue, reassure him or her that the issue is important, and then work together to solve the issue. When the problem affects business and cashflow, it should be beyond top-priority. The fact that he had to wait 4 hours indicates that customer service system failed him somewhere, so no wonder he's upset.


                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                                .Just like you can be fired by your employer you can be fired by a provider of a service. They owe you NOTHING.
                                                                                                                                                Well no that's not true. The customer deserves the level of service promised to him in the Terms of Service.


                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                                "Customer is always right" is how you get Karen's like Dick Farm Dunn here.
                                                                                                                                                I hear you man.... but there is an opportunity here that is lost when customer service doesn't respond quickly enough. For example, when a customer calls with a complaint, the representative has a chance to not only save the situation, but to also keep the client very happy thereby ensuring that he remains with them for years to come.

                                                                                                                                                It get it - its hard to look at pissed-off customers as anything but a drain, but there's a golden sales opportunity with D Ghost here that was missed.

                                                                                                                                                Cheers.

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                                                                                                                                                  • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                    Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                    • 50981
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                    I would like to provide an update on the situation specifically regarding MojoHost...

                                                                                                                                                    MojoHost and our team had a great video call and came to an understanding. Brad and James were on and they addressed our concerns appropriately and directly. We commend them for getting on this call and facing the issues head-on.

                                                                                                                                                    We also learned of some advanced tech they are working on and I would like to point out that I believe they are one of the few companies evolving and upgrading their tech as fast as possible in the industry.

                                                                                                                                                    I do realize I can be very hard on people and companies -- I expect greatness and high performance. I believe MojoHost demonstrated that greatness today by participating in this conference call with our team. Because of the call with MojoHost, I was able to better see things from their point-of-view and they were able to see things from our point-of-view too.

                                                                                                                                                    None of this was ever personal. Let's all work together moving forward and do the best that we all can together. Let's share information and learn in a positive way. Not by tearing each other down but with open, honest, and respectful communication.
                                                                                                                                                    That is good news!! Glad you guys got it worked out.

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                                                                                                                                                      • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                        bored
                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 4904
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by ladida
                                                                                                                                                        Lol, reading these questions and "advices" is like reading someone just learning about what shell is and *nix world, but posting them as some secret knowledge of the inner circle noone tells you about.
                                                                                                                                                        Bro, what you wrote knows anyone that even knows what ssh is.

                                                                                                                                                        Whoever set you up with .htaccess needs to update their tech Get a proper sysadmin to set you up with web serving platform that doesn't rely on .htaccess please.

                                                                                                                                                        And then this advice )))))))))))))) Yea, domains propagate in 5 mins. Gl with those advices to your customers, whoever that may be. Half the globe will propagate them in 24hr AT LEAST and you can put that TTL and tie it over your head cause it will be equally useful there as on your domain.
                                                                                                                                                        your first paragraph is about you.

                                                                                                                                                        you don't know everything sysadmin. every time there's a server thread you hike up your pants and dig into everybody. we all know more or less the same basic shit, then every tech specializes for their projects.

                                                                                                                                                        i only focus on the specs needed for the projects i'm working on. i don't read nerd blogs for fun. maybe you don't have enough work? i haven't had a day off in about 5 years.

                                                                                                                                                        regarding TTL - get better nameservers. i've never had a problem moving hundreds of domains in hours. maybe you're on godaddy? i keep all TTL at 60 seconds

                                                                                                                                                        ps your email says "agentgfy". if you are the tech in charge of gfy, you should close your account and move off-grid. this shit is horrible tech.

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                                                                                                                                                          • ladida
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                            • 2179
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                            I would like to provide an update on the situation specifically regarding MojoHost...

                                                                                                                                                            MojoHost and our team had a great video call and came to an understanding. Brad and James were on and they addressed our concerns appropriately and directly. We commend them for getting on this call and facing the issues head-on.

                                                                                                                                                            We also learned of some advanced tech they are working on and I would like to point out that I believe they are one of the few companies evolving and upgrading their tech as fast as possible in the industry.
                                                                                                                                                            LOLOL. First they are outdated, aws eats them alive. Then you add this tidbit about new tech this killswitch guy summed it up nicely.

                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                            your first paragraph is about you.
                                                                                                                                                            Ok Poirot.
                                                                                                                                                            you don't know everything sysadmin. every time there's a server thread you hike up your pants and dig into everybody. we all know more or less the same basic shit, then every tech specializes for their projects.
                                                                                                                                                            I don't really follow antics much, but from what i gathered in this thread, that guy was selling some hosting. Then he writes up that bit like it's some knowledge sharing thing just seals the deal he has no idea and just recently learned about it himself after "years of living in the the dark". That's why it's funny af. It's like walking in on poker table and then whispering to the dude next to you "you know, there's 4 aces in the deck, we see 2 on the table, so 2 are missing" and then a secret "wink" like he shared some inside info to the guy. That's how it comes at
                                                                                                                                                            regarding TTL - get better nameservers. i've never had a problem moving hundreds of domains in hours. maybe you're on godaddy? i keep all TTL at 60 seconds
                                                                                                                                                            ps your email says "agentgfy". if you are the tech in charge of gfy, you should close your account and move off-grid. this shit is horrible tech.
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                                                                                                                                                            I'm not related to gfy, don't read up too much into random gmail usernames. In any case, your ttl has 0 influence of when things will update, when other nameservers will update etc etc. Think of it this way, that might be more understandable to layman people like yourself.

                                                                                                                                                            You walk in a bank, teller asks you "how long can you wait" and you bring up an arbitrary number of time you can wait. Everyone walking in does the same. Does that influence when you will be called by the bank teller? Yea, to an extent where if there's 2 of you, one puts 10 mins, other 1 hr, you'll be called sooner. But that can be 10 mins, 20, 40, 1h, 3hr, or whenever the bank decides. If there's 10 of you with 10mins, it's going to decide by their own rules. For example, the guy that they know and does business 10 times more then you do will be called before you. And so on and so forth. So, while ttl does somewhat relate to the propagation, in reality, it's decided by 100 other different factors taht you have no control of, and all of those totally ignore your little paper where you wrote how long can you wait.
                                                                                                                                                            agentGFY *at* gmail.com

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                                                                                                                                                              • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                bored
                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by ladida
                                                                                                                                                                In any case, your ttl has 0 influence of when things will update, when other nameservers will update etc etc. Think of it this way, that might be more understandable to layman people like yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                You walk in a bank, teller asks you "how long can you wait" and you bring up an arbitrary number of time you can wait. Everyone walking in does the same. Does that influence when you will be called by the bank teller? Yea, to an extent where if there's 2 of you, one puts 10 mins, other 1 hr, you'll be called sooner. But that can be 10 mins, 20, 40, 1h, 3hr, or whenever the bank decides. If there's 10 of you with 10mins, it's going to decide by their own rules. For example, the guy that they know and does business 10 times more then you do will be called before you. And so on and so forth. So, while ttl does somewhat relate to the propagation, in reality, it's decided by 100 other different factors taht you have no control of, and all of those totally ignore your little paper where you wrote how long can you wait.

                                                                                                                                                                so eh, that's not what TTL is for and usage is pretty strict in any country where i would want to do business.

                                                                                                                                                                this video might get a little technical, but TTL does have global rules. most ISPs do follow the requested TTL and its also in the RFC. maybe not in China lol.





                                                                                                                                                                the question is what were you doing or building that convinced you TTL have no value?

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                                                                                                                                                                  • AdultB2B
                                                                                                                                                                    Adult Site Broker
                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1493
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Is this the same guy trashing Mojohost on XBIZ.net?

                                                                                                                                                                    What do you expect to get out of this if I may ask?
                                                                                                                                                                    Adult Site Broker - The Ethical Broker
                                                                                                                                                                    ASB Cash
                                                                                                                                                                    Adult Site Broker Talk

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                                                                                                                                                                      • ladida
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                                        • 2179
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                        so eh, that's not what TTL is for and usage is pretty strict in any country where i would want to do business
                                                                                                                                                                        Yea, sure, on paper

                                                                                                                                                                        You also believe politicians work for our benefit and society to be better
                                                                                                                                                                        Cause ,i have this little bridge, not expensive...
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                        this video might get a little technical, but
                                                                                                                                                                        ahaha, just watched this video. If this is "getting technical", i'm now scared for your customers

                                                                                                                                                                        Roughly googling, this might bring you up to speed about where you might run into issues
                                                                                                                                                                        https://serverfault.com/questions/10...-ns-record-ttl
                                                                                                                                                                        https://www.catchpoint.com/blog/dns-record-ttl
                                                                                                                                                                        And there's SO MUCH MORE going on when you include dns cache, various congestions at resolvers themselves, timeouts etc etc.

                                                                                                                                                                        So yea, write your little paper with ttl
                                                                                                                                                                        agentGFY *at* gmail.com

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Wautier
                                                                                                                                                                            pleb
                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2019
                                                                                                                                                                            • 218
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            He's changed his tune quite a bit, lol...

                                                                                                                                                                            I genuinely doubt that any company that sets you up with an Apache server, and force you to use .htaccess in 2023 shouldn't be called innovative and exciting, but hey... your monies.
                                                                                                                                                                            Sorrow and solitude, these are the precious things, and the only words that are worth rememberin'

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                                                                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 19813
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                It's been over 4 hours that we've had images missing from the site. They clearly don't take their client's sites seriously, when customer-facing content is inaccessible and we are losing sales and pissing off our customers and potential customers.


                                                                                                                                                                                Then I sent one of the MojoHost techs a URL to a previous ticket to investigate (the URL has the ticket # and ID in the URL) and he seriously asked me "What is the ticket #?"

                                                                                                                                                                                Are you fkm.

                                                                                                                                                                                This is the type of people they have working there?
                                                                                                                                                                                If I was Brad, I’d give you two days to move your shit
                                                                                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 19813
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                    I would like to provide an update on the situation specifically regarding MojoHost...

                                                                                                                                                                                    MojoHost and our team had a great video call and came to an understanding. Brad and James were on and they addressed our concerns appropriately and directly. We commend them for getting on this call and facing the issues head-on.

                                                                                                                                                                                    We also learned of some advanced tech they are working on and I would like to point out that I believe they are one of the few companies evolving and upgrading their tech as fast as possible in the industry.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I do realize I can be very hard on people and companies -- I expect greatness and high performance. I believe MojoHost demonstrated that greatness today by participating in this conference call with our team. Because of the call with MojoHost, I was able to better see things from their point-of-view and they were able to see things from our point-of-view too.

                                                                                                                                                                                    None of this was ever personal. Let's all work together moving forward and do the best that we all can together. Let's share information and learn in a positive way. Not by tearing each other down but with open, honest, and respectful communication.
                                                                                                                                                                                    You’re a scumbag who made this personal by bringing it to the boards. An adult would have gone about it off the boards.
                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • plsureking
                                                                                                                                                                                        bored
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 4904
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by ladida
                                                                                                                                                                                        ahaha, just watched this video. If this is "getting technical", i'm now scared for your customers
                                                                                                                                                                                        ..and i doubt you have any

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                            null
                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 9820
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                            You’re a scumbag who made this personal by bringing it to the boards. An adult would have gone about it off the boards.
                                                                                                                                                                                            I disagree. Microsoft and Apple, for example, get tons of criticism online for vulnerabilities, bugs, and other shit every single day. They get called out, then they deal with it however they need to. Like a business should. They don't get mad that someone criticized them. They WANT to be criticized. Do you think you will have an internet business and not receive public criticism?

                                                                                                                                                                                            It's NOT personal. Calling it personal is a lazy and convenient red-herring way to avoid the issues. It's called facts and business.

                                                                                                                                                                                            It's not so easy to just fire a client when they pay for at least a few of your people. It also would backfire greatly if the entire industry learned that a host simply decided to shut-off a client's hosting. Not a good look, guaranteed. SO you've demonstrated why you are not in charge there and wouldn't last very long in the business world.

                                                                                                                                                                                            So we think Brad did the right thing and we commend him for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Colmike9
                                                                                                                                                                                                (>^_^)b
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 7230
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                                I disagree. Microsoft and Apple, for example, get tons of criticism online for vulnerabilities, bugs, and other shit every single day. They get called out, then they deal with it however they need to. Like a business should. They don't get mad that someone criticized them. They WANT to be criticized. Do you think you will have an internet business and not receive public criticism?

                                                                                                                                                                                                It's NOT personal. Calling it personal is a lazy and convenient red-herring way to avoid the issues. It's called facts and business.

                                                                                                                                                                                                It's not so easy to just fire a client when they pay for at least a few of your people. It also would backfire greatly if the entire industry learned that a host simply decided to shut-off a client's hosting. Not a good look, guaranteed. SO you've demonstrated why you are not in charge there and wouldn't last very long in the business world.

                                                                                                                                                                                                So we think Brad did the right thing and we commend him for it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                No one likes you now, tho..
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Killswitch
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2012
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Weird hill to die on.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • D Ghost
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Colmike9
                                                                                                                                                                                                        No one likes you now, tho..
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Weird hill to die on.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Disagree. I've had tons of support on these threads and even more behind-the-scenes over Skype and in private messages. Many from large companies you know. And if I named them, you would be shocked.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I prefer to be disliked by some because I speak the truth than liked by all because I hide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        But keep pretending you both know everything! Great hill to live on. A hill of willful ignorance.


                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, this is an old news thread now, come on over to my new thread and throw your hat in the ring: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...os-upload.html

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