Anyone ever do videos in flash? - GoFuckYourself.com

Marcus · 05-23-2003, 11:47 PM

I just joined a site and all the videos in the members area are in flash format so the members can't download them and they load up fast.

The only thing that sucks is that you can't fast forward and rewind, but the movie is cut into clips so you can skip around.

I bet this saves on bandwith too.

Anyone have experience with this? I just think this is brilliant for keeping your content on your site and not floating around the net and wonder what you all thought of this.

drunkdollars · 05-23-2003, 11:50 PM

I was looking at this last week. Check out the quality on this video
http://avid.com/products/dsnitris/nitris/

I dont know the file size cause im too lazy to try to DL the flash.

but looks sharp

AaronM · 05-23-2003, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus
I just joined a site and all the videos in the members area are in flash format so the members can't download them and they load up fast.

The only thing that sucks is that you can't fast forward and rewind, but the movie is cut into clips so you can skip around.

I bet this saves on bandwith too.

Anyone have experience with this? I just think this is brilliant for keeping your content on your site and not floating around the net and wonder what you all thought of this.

Have you seen the Ultimate Feeds banner at the top of GFY?

Carrie · 05-24-2003, 12:14 AM

If you usually convert your movies to .wmv format, then to get a flash video of the same quality (or close to it) the file size is going to be a LOT bigger. And if your members want to watch their favorite clip/movie again, they gotta pull it down from your site again rather than just finding it on their hard drive.

So it doesn't save on bandwidth. It is pretty effective however at combatting P2P - although the techie guys will get around it anyway. And one benefit of Flash is that it works on all operating systems (as long as folks have a browser from within the last 3 years or so).

Marcus · 05-24-2003, 09:00 AM

cool thanks

PMGames · 05-24-2003, 09:30 AM

If you have Flash MX it now allows for direct import of external jp and also mov files, so yes...you can use a flash file and bring in mov movies now.

In the past we used a mov to swf converter (which you can find anywhere using goodle) and it would take each frame of a mov movie and convert it into single frame in an actual flash movie. This is great if you want real control over the movie (fast forward, rewind, stop, etc)...it just takes a lot more time to compile and template out, etc.

We have been using video in flash for about a year and a half now in our video oriented games. We recently pulled them after getting a notice from that Arcacia company, but once that blows over we will be relreasing them again.

Good luck...more and more flash is becoming the standard in online interactive content!

Paul M. Games
President
Adult Web Games
Straight, Gay, Hentai, Multiplayer and now French Version Games too!

05-24-2003, 09:44 AM

Ya, there's no way the file size will be smaller. Probably double the size of the original movie file.

Mutt · 05-24-2003, 10:01 AM

bad idea. members are more fickle than ever, give them what they want - MPEG-1. Ask quiet how that works out for him

devoid_of_reason · 05-24-2003, 01:08 PM

Unless you have super-exclusive content you want to protect. it's
probably not worth the extra filesize.
The average paysite subscriber would never go to the trouble to
learn the procedure to capture .swf files. If someone was that
ambitious they would already use hacks, cracks, and spoofs so that
joining a paysite wouldn't be necessary.
In my experience the filesize increases with a flash movie the same size and quality as original video input is

flash movie=(.avi, mpeg4, etc.) x6(approx.)
flash movie=(.mov, .wmv)x4(approx.)

On the other hand...buttons (ff,rw,play,etc.) can be easily added
using active scripting, and the playback is much more responsive
than with windows based media players (IMHO).

05-23-2003, 11:47 PM	#1
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	Anyone ever do videos in flash? I just joined a site and all the videos in the members area are in flash format so the members can't download them and they load up fast. The only thing that sucks is that you can't fast forward and rewind, but the movie is cut into clips so you can skip around. I bet this saves on bandwith too. Anyone have experience with this? I just think this is brilliant for keeping your content on your site and not floating around the net and wonder what you all thought of this.

05-23-2003, 11:50 PM	#2
drunkdollars Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Club Drunk Posts: 2,734	I was looking at this last week. Check out the quality on this video http://avid.com/products/dsnitris/nitris/ I dont know the file size cause im too lazy to try to DL the flash. but looks sharp __________________ SIGS ARE GAY 98055668 icq

05-24-2003, 09:30 AM	#6
PMGames Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 494	If you have Flash MX it now allows for direct import of external jp and also mov files, so yes...you can use a flash file and bring in mov movies now. In the past we used a mov to swf converter (which you can find anywhere using goodle) and it would take each frame of a mov movie and convert it into single frame in an actual flash movie. This is great if you want real control over the movie (fast forward, rewind, stop, etc)...it just takes a lot more time to compile and template out, etc. We have been using video in flash for about a year and a half now in our video oriented games. We recently pulled them after getting a notice from that Arcacia company, but once that blows over we will be relreasing them again. Good luck...more and more flash is becoming the standard in online interactive content! Paul M. Games President Adult Web Games Straight, Gay, Hentai, Multiplayer and now French Version Games too! Last edited by PMGames; 05-24-2003 at 09:34 AM..

05-24-2003, 10:01 AM	#8
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	bad idea. members are more fickle than ever, give them what they want - MPEG-1. Ask quiet how that works out for him __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-24-2003, 12:14 AM	#4
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	If you usually convert your movies to .wmv format, then to get a flash video of the same quality (or close to it) the file size is going to be a LOT bigger. And if your members want to watch their favorite clip/movie again, they gotta pull it down from your site again rather than just finding it on their hard drive. So it doesn't save on bandwidth. It is pretty effective however at combatting P2P - although the techie guys will get around it anyway. And one benefit of Flash is that it works on all operating systems (as long as folks have a browser from within the last 3 years or so).

05-24-2003, 09:00 AM	#5
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	cool thanks

05-24-2003, 09:44 AM	#7
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Ya, there's no way the file size will be smaller. Probably double the size of the original movie file.

05-24-2003, 01:08 PM	#9
devoid_of_reason Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The gulf coast Posts: 42	Unless you have super-exclusive content you want to protect. it's probably not worth the extra filesize. The average paysite subscriber would never go to the trouble to learn the procedure to capture .swf files. If someone was that ambitious they would already use hacks, cracks, and spoofs so that joining a paysite wouldn't be necessary. In my experience the filesize increases with a flash movie the same size and quality as original video input is flash movie=(.avi, mpeg4, etc.) x6(approx.) flash movie=(.mov, .wmv)x4(approx.) On the other hand...buttons (ff,rw,play,etc.) can be easily added using active scripting, and the playback is much more responsive than with windows based media players (IMHO).