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Old 05-22-2003, 05:27 PM   #1
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I guess I'm out $250,000+

That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:29 PM   #2
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:29 PM   #3
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That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.
That's fucked.

And great job on paying your webmasters even though you got boned. That is the right thing to do.
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holy shit, are they planning pn paying back?
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:29 PM   #5
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well fuck my silly. thats a nice chunk of change.

i saw a websitebilling add on GFY yesterday.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:30 PM   #6
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Lensman is setting an example as to how a reputation is built.

I'm wondering if I'm even going to get my $3k from TripleXcash.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:43 PM   #11
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:43 PM   #12
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Lensman is setting an example as to how a reputation is built.

I'm wondering if I'm even going to get my $3k from TripleXcash.
TripleXcash are stand up guys. If you did not get paid then it is either an oversight or you lived up to your screen name and stole/cheated.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:46 PM   #13
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that's totally fucked....

did WSB file for bankruptcy or something, or just shut the doors and haul ass?
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that's totally fucked....

did WSB file for bankruptcy or something, or just shut the doors and haul ass?
there in mexico now sipping margaritas
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:47 PM   #15
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That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.
That's very commendible of you Lensman and I'm sure your webmasters will be very happy to know they'll be paid even during WSB's failure. I hope you can recover a good portion of that amount in bankruptcy court.

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Old 05-22-2003, 05:48 PM   #16
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that's totally fucked....

did WSB file for bankruptcy or something, or just shut the doors and haul ass?
They didn't mention anything about bankruptcy that I saw...just a nice letter saying that we aren't getting shit, basically.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:49 PM   #17
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I'll go and collect it for half

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Old 05-22-2003, 05:54 PM   #18
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if they owe you 250,000$

and you payed out like maybe 100 to 200K to webmasters

then your out350,000$ + posibly,

+ rebills

wow,

thats really sucks,

fuck WSB,

all I can say is this,

adult platinum messed up a check and i talked to the staff and I got payed,

WSB on the other hand stiffed me also,

and CFF has not made good on the lost money either,
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:58 PM   #19
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if they owe you 250,000$

and you payed out like maybe 100 to 200K to webmasters

then your out350,000$ + posibly,

+ rebills

wow,

thats really sucks,

fuck WSB,

all I can say is this,

adult platinum messed up a check and i talked to the staff and I got payed,

WSB on the other hand stiffed me also,

and CFF has not made good on the lost money either,
Thanks for pointing that out.....I'll collect it for half + EXPENSES

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Old 05-22-2003, 06:01 PM   #20
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That's a shitload of money.
Very good thing that you paid all the webmasters.
Good action.

A good reputation is worth alot of money.
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Old 05-22-2003, 06:08 PM   #21
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I'd definitely find a good repo company... Take the building they were in... take the clothes off of the owners... tape it too.. and then sell it on the web....

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Also wanted to add that it sucks that this had to happen.. on many levels... I guess you won't be paying as much taxes?

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That's very commendible of you Lensman and I'm sure your webmasters will be very happy to know they'll be paid even during WSB's failure. I hope you can recover a good portion of that amount in bankruptcy court.

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holy shit, are they planning pn paying back?
Yeah WSB is gonna get right on that. Checks are going out Wednesday.
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I dont think ill ever see the day when its even possible to screw me over for $350k
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Lensman your a straight up dude, that is what I would do also, but I am glad not to be in that situation.

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Yeah WSB is gonna get right on that. Checks are going out Wednesday.
i think you guys at triplexcash run a pretty good show, but i highly doubt WSB will ever send me a check. i've never gotten one, so why think i will now?



oh yeah, props to lens. i hope you can reclaim something. they probably have $250k in office furniture.
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shit and i thought my 1,000 bucks was a pretty big loss..
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For your partners (webamsters) I'm glad you have the bank to do this. Very few people in ANY business would do this, believe me I've seen it a bunch in mainstream companies.

I don't care what they say about you Lensman : your a stand up guy. ditto's man
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they probably have $250k in office furniture.
You don't get shit for used office furniture, as a matter of fact when the dot coms went bust over in the Bay Area, there was so much of it they could GIVE it away and that's a fact. About 15 years ago I bought some printing companies CEO's chair for $ 50.00 that was a nice chair (they went bust). Was a $ 1000.00 plus chair back then
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suck suck suck suck and suck big time. I just cant understand how companies can just take other peoples money. And I bet they even do it with a smile

At least by choosing the MPA2 program as your new back end now you will have backup processors if this would ever happen to any of the 3 cascading processors in the feature.

Send all your legal guys after them and dont give up. Companies that takes other peoples money ruin it for everyone !
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You don't get shit for used office furniture, as a matter of fact when the dot coms went bust over in the Bay Area, there was so much of it they couldn't GIVE it away and that's a fact. About 15 years ago I bought some printing companies CEO's chair for $ 50.00 that was a nice chair (they went bust). Was a $ 1000.00 plus chair back then
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You don't get shit for used office furniture, as a matter of fact when the dot coms went bust over in the Bay Area, there was so much of it they could GIVE it away and that's a fact. About 15 years ago I bought some printing companies CEO's chair for $ 50.00 that was a nice chair (they went bust). Was a $ 1000.00 plus chair back then

yeah, i guess you're right, i didn't really think about that. leave the office furniture for someone else. but, their organs are probably worth a decent $$. aren't like livers and stuff worth a few tens of thousands each? i mean, there's gotta be enough employees...
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TripleXcash are stand up guys. If you did not get paid then it is either an oversight or you lived up to your screen name and stole/cheated.
i think theres QUITE a few people that havent been paid,they said deal with wsb...now what?
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Hey lensman

Sorry to see your out that much cash...But its cool to see that even when someone fails to pay you that you still hold up your commitment to webmasters...Thats probably why your where your at today...

Good luck on trying to recoop some of the cash

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I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

I know lensman has repeatedly said that they are fine... but i'm starting to wonder....

I remember how all the trouble started with WSB... trouble with banks and such.... and now ibill is having trouble is their eu banks.....
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My first instinct is to say that paying everyone out of their own pocket was an amazing thing for Adult.com to do. I've thought about it though, and while it is great, it *shouldn't* be so amazing. Because it is what anyone else should do in the same situation.
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That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.
I can vouch for that. I haven't earned much, but what I did earn has been paid to me like clockwork.



I've been expecting to hear this about WSB for some time now. Had a feeling I did.

Onward.....
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Old 05-22-2003, 08:21 PM   #50
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I can't help but think.... Is ibill next?

I know lensman has repeatedly said that they are fine... but i'm starting to wonder....

I remember how all the trouble started with WSB... trouble with banks and such.... and now ibill is having trouble is their eu banks.....

I dont think Ibill is going anywhere, they have a large company behind them. They are getting rid of the crappy webmasters, they may not be the kings of customer service but they will be around.
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