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psyko514 · 05-22-2003, 08:22 PM

50...

and holy fucking shit! 250k!

Rick Latona · 05-22-2003, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.

I'm just wondering how much of that was from the InternetEraser.

Seriously bro, that's mighty strong of you.

Jer · 05-22-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
lens runs on reputation, and he has a good one

So you post this and let me with no words to say the same.

Lens deserves 250,000+

gregtx · 05-22-2003, 08:47 PM

Damn Joe...

sorry to hear that...

I just wish your honest business practices would rub off on Ibill as we have still not seen our money from the MCI bust....

kenny · 05-22-2003, 08:50 PM

Sorry to hear about your lose. Very admiral of you to pay your webmasters. I certainly hope that you can recover that money.

yall · 05-22-2003, 08:57 PM

CFF should have the balls to publicly say that IF WSB doent come through, they will cover the losses.

Atleast do something imstead of spamming me every other day with your crap after I asked to be removed from your shit list.

that's what happens when you get a bunch of amateur kids running some affiliate program.

lagwagon · 05-22-2003, 09:57 PM

fucking A

nazgul · 05-22-2003, 10:12 PM

With all the changes that are going on in the corprate environment is surpirses me that shit like this is allowed to go on. What ever happened to CEO's being held accountable for shaddy business practices etc.

Wonder how long until they start poking around in this industry, and how long before they start shutting people down.

Naz

Mr Pheer · 05-23-2003, 12:00 AM

For $25k I'll drive this piece of shit MR2 Spyder that i bought today thru thier office

That would pay for the car and a plane ticket home, my services as bad driver are free

grumpy · 05-23-2003, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
That's fucked.

And great job on paying your webmasters even though you got boned. That is the right thing to do.

Isnt that th Normal thing to do. Or should the affiliate beeing fucked because the deal Lensman made didnt work out. Im sorry he lost that money but its normal that you pay your aff. then. Its a bit weird that you see all the ass kissing here when he just did the right thing. just my

funkmaster · 05-23-2003, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
That's what WSB owes me for InternetEraser and AdultLiveNetwork sales.

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.

... way to go !!!

Big_J · 05-23-2003, 04:46 AM

Lens,

maybe you should remove Website Billing from the "*** GFY Recommends ***" list.

BigJ

Paul Markham · 05-23-2003, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
You don't get shit for used office furniture, as a matter of fact when the dot coms went bust over in the Bay Area, there was so much of it they could GIVE it away and that's a fact. About 15 years ago I bought some printing companies CEO's chair for $ 50.00 that was a nice chair (they went bust). Was a $ 1000.00 plus chair back then

He's right. I used to sell office furniture. If it has been unwrapped it loses 75% of it's value immediately. So anyone looking to buy to resell it will offer 10% of the full purchase price.

Qumbus · 05-23-2003, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.

Nice work Lensman, you are an example to all of us.

slavdogg · 05-23-2003, 05:01 AM

who are the other big sites/sponsors that lost big with WSB ?

Paul Markham · 05-23-2003, 05:16 AM

Read their explanation

Cant comment on how much of this is true or not true, but it makes you think about the entire Internet Billing situation.

We have a policy that the moment a CC processor freezes or does not pay us we stop sending them business. I know it is difficult with recurring, but you then have to move those guys over to somewhere more trust worthy.

What a lot of these CC processors cannot get into their skulls is it is our money. Just seen a contract from another CC processor. It basically says that if we put down any information that they deem to be false, we are guilty of fraud. They can then keep all the money they have of ours.

So why do they not return it to the buyer? It?s just a legal way of stealing.

Lensman did the right thing. He chose to go and stay with WSB, he is responsible to his affiliates. He just stood by his word.

How long did it take to amass the debt? One week or three months?

assistant27 · 05-23-2003, 06:17 AM

well we lost $30,000 with digiblaze when they have bankrupt.

PR_Phil · 05-23-2003, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

Please note that ALL WEBMASTERS WERE PAID BY US even though we weren't getting paid. That's the right thing to do.

Very honorable, I hope you get your cash, or at least some of it

Masturbationman · 05-23-2003, 06:30 AM

Not sure who to trust in this industry anymore. Looking like CCbill and Ibill are the only two players. Ibill being the safest one because I don't see Intercept letting them lose their merchant account. That would kill their stock.

Masturbation Man

Sassyass · 05-23-2003, 06:49 AM

I find it funny that the expectation is that you wouldn't get paid if WSB didn't pay. That's no different than telling the bank that you can't pay your mortgage because your job didn't cut you a check. The bank doesn?t care and neither should you. That?s business, and any person who understands business knows that. To be frank, I am surprised that Lens even stated that he was paying. You don?t get to the level of business that Lensman is at with out understanding business, and I would have been shocked if I read a post from Lens saying, ?Were not getting paid, so your not getting paid.?
The porn industry makes entirely too much money to be shut out for long. The banking corporations are having a conscience right now that will soon go away.
Money talks, bullshit we have family values crap will walk?.

FreeNetPass Steve · 05-23-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
Holy shit that's 250,000 hamburgers!

Well, more like 750K at white castle.

Triple 6 · 05-23-2003, 07:18 AM

Lensman, have you filed a lawsuit on them? What about anyone else? Is anyone suing or doing class action shit against WSB?

jimmyf · 05-23-2003, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sassyass
The banking corporations are having a conscience right now that will soon go away.
Money talks, bullshit we have family values crap will walk?.

So true, banks really don't give a shit, you make' em money you are there buddy.

joee · 05-23-2003, 09:31 AM

Joee here fo ICE/NEtMgt/CEN- WSB can SUK MY DICK. I always pay, JB may not, Rob Gould maynot, Fabian maynot, Joee always pays. When we were shut down by UUNET in 1998, I paid even though you could not reach our sites. If you do not have enuff money to "back" your biz, GET OUT!

xtiplexcash , etc.. YOUR FAULT, I lost $over $100k with WSB, I am still paying webmasters... Good job LENS!!!!!!!

Roland, Mike, I see you guys in town, I stopped going out, I go out once, I see Roland's DRUNK ass downtown..being a player;-(
You guys are jrkoffs, you ruin our industry. LAW SUITS COMING!
You knew exactly what you were going to do, MILK the webmaster. GFY!

http://www.icecoldcash.com and http://www.privatefriends.com
If you are zending traffic anywhere , try the FREE SIGNUPS on PrivateFriends.com BETA ONLY!

LeeNoga · 05-23-2003, 10:08 AM

Much respect Lens.

tree · 05-23-2003, 10:44 AM

sorry to hear that lensman

hopefully you will get some of your flow back

if not theres always the pliers & blowtorch method

kmanrox · 05-23-2003, 10:48 AM

250k? shit that aint nuthin, my dsl is 256k, sheesh

Lensman · 05-23-2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joee
Joee here fo ICE/NEtMgt/CEN- WSB can SUK MY DICK. I always pay, JB may not, Rob Gould maynot, Fabian maynot, Joee always pays. When we were shut down by UUNET in 1998, I paid even though you could not reach our sites. If you do not have enuff money to "back" your biz, GET OUT!

xtiplexcash , etc.. YOUR FAULT, I lost $over $100k with WSB, I am still paying webmasters... Good job LENS!!!!!!!

Roland, Mike, I see you guys in town, I stopped going out, I go out once, I see Roland's DRUNK ass downtown..being a player;-(
You guys are jrkoffs, you ruin our industry. LAW SUITS COMING!
You knew exactly what you were going to do, MILK the webmaster. GFY!

http://www.icecoldcash.com and http://www.privatefriends.com
If you are zending traffic anywhere , try the FREE SIGNUPS on PrivateFriends.com BETA ONLY!

I can attest that JoeE always pays.

$tandaman · 05-23-2003, 02:13 PM

Lensman, did you already charge 200k, or is that recurrings that you expect to recieve?

Shouldn't you be able to get the recurring database, and charge the clietns on another processor, or even your own merchant account. I know thats problematic these days, but if they transfer dirrectly to another ipsp without you getting ahold of cc's there should not be anything illegal.

I am sure if your legal team pushes hard enough, it would be possible.

If they already been billed, then this money will be in WSB's accounts, and you can legally get it as well.

So what is the actual situation?

Mr Pheer · 05-23-2003, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joee
Joee here fo ICE/NEtMgt/CEN- WSB can SUK MY DICK. I always pay, JB may not, Rob Gould maynot, Fabian maynot, Joee always pays. When we were shut down by UUNET in 1998, I paid even though you could not reach our sites. If you do not have enuff money to "back" your biz, GET OUT!

xtiplexcash , etc.. YOUR FAULT, I lost $over $100k with WSB, I am still paying webmasters... Good job LENS!!!!!!!

Roland, Mike, I see you guys in town, I stopped going out, I go out once, I see Roland's DRUNK ass downtown..being a player;-(
You guys are jrkoffs, you ruin our industry. LAW SUITS COMING!
You knew exactly what you were going to do, MILK the webmaster. GFY!

http://www.icecoldcash.com and http://www.privatefriends.com
If you are zending traffic anywhere , try the FREE SIGNUPS on PrivateFriends.com BETA ONLY!

JB has always paid me, sometimes $25k+ a week

Serge_Oprano · 06-21-2003, 07:36 AM

is that the reason my check wasn't sent yet?

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05-22-2003, 08:47 PM	#54
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05-23-2003, 12:00 AM	#59
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05-22-2003, 08:50 PM	#55
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Sorry to hear about your lose. Very admiral of you to pay your webmasters. I certainly hope that you can recover that money.

05-22-2003, 08:57 PM	#56
yall Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 175	CFF should have the balls to publicly say that IF WSB doent come through, they will cover the losses. Atleast do something imstead of spamming me every other day with your crap after I asked to be removed from your shit list. that's what happens when you get a bunch of amateur kids running some affiliate program.

05-22-2003, 10:12 PM	#58
nazgul Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 227	With all the changes that are going on in the corprate environment is surpirses me that shit like this is allowed to go on. What ever happened to CEO's being held accountable for shaddy business practices etc. Wonder how long until they start poking around in this industry, and how long before they start shutting people down. Naz

05-23-2003, 04:46 AM	#62
Big_J Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 24	Lens, maybe you should remove Website Billing from the "* GFY Recommends *" list. BigJ

05-23-2003, 05:16 AM	#66
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Read their explanation Cant comment on how much of this is true or not true, but it makes you think about the entire Internet Billing situation. We have a policy that the moment a CC processor freezes or does not pay us we stop sending them business. I know it is difficult with recurring, but you then have to move those guys over to somewhere more trust worthy. What a lot of these CC processors cannot get into their skulls is it is our money. Just seen a contract from another CC processor. It basically says that if we put down any information that they deem to be false, we are guilty of fraud. They can then keep all the money they have of ours. So why do they not return it to the buyer? It?s just a legal way of stealing. Lensman did the right thing. He chose to go and stay with WSB, he is responsible to his affiliates. He just stood by his word. How long did it take to amass the debt? One week or three months? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-23-2003, 06:17 AM	#67
assistant27 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 256	well we lost $30,000 with digiblaze when they have bankrupt.

05-23-2003, 06:30 AM	#69
Masturbationman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 283	Not sure who to trust in this industry anymore. Looking like CCbill and Ibill are the only two players. Ibill being the safest one because I don't see Intercept letting them lose their merchant account. That would kill their stock. Masturbation Man

05-23-2003, 06:49 AM	#70
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	I find it funny that the expectation is that you wouldn't get paid if WSB didn't pay. That's no different than telling the bank that you can't pay your mortgage because your job didn't cut you a check. The bank doesn?t care and neither should you. That?s business, and any person who understands business knows that. To be frank, I am surprised that Lens even stated that he was paying. You don?t get to the level of business that Lensman is at with out understanding business, and I would have been shocked if I read a post from Lens saying, ?Were not getting paid, so your not getting paid.? The porn industry makes entirely too much money to be shut out for long. The banking corporations are having a conscience right now that will soon go away. Money talks, bullshit we have family values crap will walk?.

05-23-2003, 07:18 AM	#72
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05-23-2003, 09:31 AM	#74
joee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 15	Joee here fo ICE/NEtMgt/CEN- WSB can SUK MY DICK. I always pay, JB may not, Rob Gould maynot, Fabian maynot, Joee always pays. When we were shut down by UUNET in 1998, I paid even though you could not reach our sites. If you do not have enuff money to "back" your biz, GET OUT! xtiplexcash , etc.. YOUR FAULT, I lost $over $100k with WSB, I am still paying webmasters... Good job LENS!!!!!!! Roland, Mike, I see you guys in town, I stopped going out, I go out once, I see Roland's DRUNK ass downtown..being a player;-( You guys are jrkoffs, you ruin our industry. LAW SUITS COMING! You knew exactly what you were going to do, MILK the webmaster. GFY! http://www.icecoldcash.com and http://www.privatefriends.com If you are zending traffic anywhere , try the FREE SIGNUPS on PrivateFriends.com BETA ONLY! __________________ Guess who's back.. JoeE IceColdCash.com

05-23-2003, 10:08 AM	#75
LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	Much respect Lens.

05-23-2003, 10:44 AM	#76
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	sorry to hear that lensman hopefully you will get some of your flow back if not theres always the pliers & blowtorch method

05-23-2003, 10:48 AM	#77
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	250k? shit that aint nuthin, my dsl is 256k, sheesh

05-23-2003, 02:13 PM	#79
$tandaman Pimping 8EZ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,529	Lensman, did you already charge 200k, or is that recurrings that you expect to recieve? Shouldn't you be able to get the recurring database, and charge the clietns on another processor, or even your own merchant account. I know thats problematic these days, but if they transfer dirrectly to another ipsp without you getting ahold of cc's there should not be anything illegal. I am sure if your legal team pushes hard enough, it would be possible. If they already been billed, then this money will be in WSB's accounts, and you can legally get it as well. So what is the actual situation? __________________ CentroProfits.com - Make money with 3000+ Models! ModelCentro.com - Multiple award winning hosted CMS designed to run solo model sites, with affiliate program built in. Launch your model site in 24 hrs or less! FanCentro.com - Premium social network for SWs & Fans!

06-21-2003, 07:36 AM	#81
Serge_Oprano So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,820	is that the reason my check wasn't sent yet?