The Program I made for Check bullshitters - GoFuckYourself.com

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 11:28 AM

3 weeks ago I added a fuction to my site.

The program works that after someone signs up with a check they cannot login untill they are manually approved.

The database knows its a check since we have CCBill do a form post and check signups the sub ID starts with a 6.

Now that I have been doing this for 3 weeks I can report some stats.

First take a look what happens when someone signs up with a check and they try to login:

http://www.hotlocalescorts.com/memberlogin.asp

User: frosty
Password: charles

Now that I used it for over 3 weeks here is some interesting stuff:

Every single bad check that was submitted the user used a free email service 99% are hotmail and yahoo.

I noticed that at least 20% that I can confirm signed up using a credit card after reading that warning. (I noticed they used the same user name and pass as when they did the bullshit check)

I did not have a single person bitch about this.

And noone that emailed from a real account used a bad check.

Now this does not stop them from signing up with bullshit checks but it does save me money on my BW bill.

The only reason I am removing the check option is because affiliates asked me to.

In the past 3 weeks I got about 300 check signups.

TheViper · 05-22-2003, 11:36 AM

Yea, sort of a different way to put a condom on your BW

stocktrader23 · 05-22-2003, 11:37 AM

Damn that page would scare the fuck out of me with a good check.

By the way, that one signup I sent to you when I tested some traffic awhile back rebilled. I'm at 100%, Woohoo!

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by TheViper
Yea, sort of a different way to put a condom on your BW

lol

Machete_ · 05-22-2003, 11:40 AM

seriously nice concept

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Damn that page would scare the fuck out of me with a good check.

By the way, that one signup I sent to you when I tested some traffic awhile back rebilled. I'm at 100%, Woohoo!

I have ads this week in tons of newspapers to get more escorts listed (its free for them) so im getting lots of new ones daily on the site.

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
seriously nice concept

thanks

KRL · 05-22-2003, 12:51 PM

When we did manual checks online I posted the following:

BEFORE SUBMITTING, BE SURE YOU ENTERED ACCURATE INFORMATION!

BE SURE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN YOUR ACCOUNT!

BE SURE YOU ARE USING A VALID CHECKING ACCOUNT!

IF YOUR CHECK BOUNCES OR IS RETURNED FOR AN INVALID OR CLOSED ACCOUNT IT WILL BE REPORTED TO THE NATIONAL CHECK FRAUD CENTER!

Then when they clicked the link for the NCFC it would lead them to here:

http://www.ckfraud.org/systems.html

Paul Markham · 05-22-2003, 12:57 PM

The guys that log on with us from @Yahoo or @hotmail e-mails usually turn out to be surfers.

NetRodent · 05-22-2003, 02:21 PM

Interesting numbers.

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 07:57 PM

but im trying to develop sometyhing interesting that will stop this fraud, ill keep yall posted

Cindyff · 05-22-2003, 11:26 PM

Excellent idea

About time someone came up with a good idea to cut down on check fraud
Well done
Cindy xx

goBigtime · 05-23-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

http://www.hotlocalescorts.com/memberlogin.asp

User: frosty
Password: charles

In the past 3 weeks I got about 300 check signups.

Good idea

But damn I missed out.. I want to see that page...

And the 300 check signups -- what % of them were fraudulent? Or was that after you scrubbed them?

EscortBiz · 05-23-2003, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

Good idea

But damn I missed out.. I want to see that page...

And the 300 check signups -- what % of them were fraudulent? Or was that after you scrubbed them?

you can still see it, go to the link and try logging in using that user and pass.

about 67 never emailed meaning it was bullshit and it ended up showing in ccbill that the check didnt clear

goBigtime · 05-23-2003, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

you can still see it, go to the link and try logging in using that user and pass.

about 67 never emailed meaning it was bullshit and it ended up showing in ccbill that the check didnt clear

Intersting... really harsh on the folks that actually used a legit checking account.

I would think more people would have complained that they didn't get instant access, but I guess when hunting for escorts its a little differenet than dick-in-hand surfers in a rush to get at your content... or maybe not.

Anyway good deal man

...

If I didn't have a splitting headache I could think of ways to improve/automate it a bit more even. There's always tomorrow...

EscortBiz · 05-23-2003, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

Intersting... really harsh on the folks that actually used a legit checking account.

I would think more people would have complained that they didn't get instant access, but I guess when hunting for escorts its a little differenet than dick-in-hand surfers in a rush to get at your content... or maybe not.

Anyway good deal man ...

If I didn't have a splitting headache I could think of ways to improve/automate it a bit more even. There's always tomorrow...

The thing i am working on is phone verification, where before the check goes thru the surfer has to get a call in thru an automated IVR interesting stuff

Calvinguy · 05-23-2003, 02:30 AM

EscortBiz,

How do you manage your members? Do you have your own database backend with usernames, sub# etc. ?

Calvinguy · 05-23-2003, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by charly
The guys that log on with us from @Yahoo or @hotmail e-mails usually turn out to be surfers.

So block these domains....

EscortBiz · 05-23-2003, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by Calvinguy
EscortBiz,

How do you manage your members? Do you have your own database backend with usernames, sub# etc. ?

MsSQL DB and ASP / .NET stuff

MandyBlake · 05-23-2003, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
When we did manual checks online I posted the following:

BEFORE SUBMITTING, BE SURE YOU ENTERED ACCURATE INFORMATION!

BE SURE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN YOUR ACCOUNT!

BE SURE YOU ARE USING A VALID CHECKING ACCOUNT!

IF YOUR CHECK BOUNCES OR IS RETURNED FOR AN INVALID OR CLOSED ACCOUNT IT WILL BE REPORTED TO THE NATIONAL CHECK FRAUD CENTER!

Then when they clicked the link for the NCFC it would lead them to here:

http://www.ckfraud.org/systems.html

Maybe I should add that to my sign up page...most of my checks come back. Its getting very frustrating.

Calvinguy · 05-23-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

MsSQL DB and ASP / .NET stuff

Just curious, how do you know how long you should keep the members in your database? If they signup for a recurring subscription and cancel at CCbill after 1 or 2 months?

EscortBiz · 05-23-2003, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by Calvinguy

Just curious, how do you know how long you should keep the members in your database? If they signup for a recurring subscription and cancel at CCbill after 1 or 2 months?

CCBills ASP script takes care of that

Tipsy · 05-23-2003, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by Calvinguy

Just curious, how do you know how long you should keep the members in your database? If they signup for a recurring subscription and cancel at CCbill after 1 or 2 months?

The better billers will post the info to a form for you so setting up a system to handle that is easy.

CCBill especially have some awesome tools for that, with the only thing that seems to be missing is a way to pass and receive back non-ccbill data for your own tracking. Seems you can only do that if not using their affiliate system.

EscortBiz · 05-23-2003, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

CCBill especially have some awesome tools for that, with the only thing that seems to be missing is a way to pass and receive back non-ccbill data for your own tracking. Seems you can only do that if not using their affiliate system.

what do you mean by that?

05-22-2003, 11:28 AM	#1
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