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baddog 05-21-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goodgirl



Just like anyone who buys a stereo that doesn't work, and the company they bought from doesn't honor the warranty...They would at some point just go out and buy another new stereo.

:1orglaugh Infact, I bet most people wouldn't wait the 8 months to hear the music.

GMTA

nuclei 05-21-2003 02:31 PM

What 8 months exactly?

here is the whole conversation we had that night:

Quote:


[04:17] <05nuclei> taz doesnt work here
[04:17] <05nuclei> and really doesnt seem to know much about what he is doing to be quite blunt
[04:17] <05nuclei> i like the guy
[04:17] <05_goodgirl_> well he should for as much as he has fixed errors for that specific script
[04:17] <05baddog> yes, that is the question, I know that goodgirl is your original customer, but I hate it when I know she is still shelling out dollars, and when I am shelling out dollars because I don't like the idea of her shelling out dollars
[04:18] <05baddog> and even more so, that there are thigs that still don't work
[04:18] <05nuclei> the question is, why does she have someone who doesnt work here work on it, when we offer free support
[04:18] <05_goodgirl_> well that is easy
[04:18] <05baddog> well, my understanding was . . . let me quote her
[04:19] <05baddog> want the login for perlcoders so you can go in there chatroom and see if anyone will help (which I doubt, they all seem to be lazy and non caring)
[04:20] <05nuclei> if she generally comes in after business hours im not surprised
[04:20] <05baddog> so essentially it was a lack of response from perlcoders that has made her seek assistance elsewhere
[04:20] <05nuclei> you actually got lucky I am even awake
[04:20] <05_goodgirl_> as many times as I have tried working with perlcoders and nothing being done or it taken weeks to do things..or lets see, I was told for months that a billing portion for the script was being made, and guess what never got it. Oh and I read on GFY how you guys Require to install the script to prevent errors, it took you guys 3 weeks to install it for me, and you made me pay for it lol
[04:20] <05baddog> e-mail
[04:20] <05nuclei> made you pay for what goodgirl?
[04:20] <05nuclei> "it took you guys 3 weeks to install it for me, and you made me pay for it lol"
[04:21] <05nuclei> made you pay for what? and more specifically "who?"
[04:21] <05_goodgirl_> to install the script
[04:21] <05baddog> she had to pay to get TAVS installed by Ryan
[04:21] <05_goodgirl_> Ryan
[04:21] <05nuclei> how much?
[04:21] <05_goodgirl_> you told me that ryan would install it and charged to do it, so I paid and waited
[04:21] <05nuclei> ryan knows better
[04:21] <05_goodgirl_> I can look it up in paypal, it was only 25 or 30, but still
[04:21] <05nuclei> uhhh ryan does design and charges for it
[04:22] <05nuclei> or to integrate your design
[04:22] <05nuclei> not to install the script
[04:22] <05_goodgirl_> I guess i figured if I had to pay for support I might as well pay someone that does it right away and not take their time
[04:22] <05_goodgirl_> nope
[04:22] <05_goodgirl_> he didn't do that, I did
[04:22] <05_goodgirl_> I did all the templates
[04:22] <05nuclei> would you mind sending me an email to that respect and ill make damn sure he pays you back pleas
[04:22] <05nuclei> [email protected]
[04:23] <05_goodgirl_> ok
[04:23] <05nuclei> installation has always been free the first time
[04:23] <05nuclei> and he damn well knows it

now, here we have several things to be aware of.

#1. You came in at 4am, when you have been told by other customers sitting in there that our tech support hours are from 10am on to early evening. You ignore this advice and "of course" find no help. As the log says, you are lucky I was even awake at that hour working on a rush job for a client.

#2. Goodgirl says Ryan installed the script and charged her for installation. Yet in her quoted email ina post above it clearly shows that Jonathon Scalf installed it and for free.

#3. That goodgirl didnt come to us for support during all the prior timeframe and that she instead had a third party alter the code.

#4. The billing mod that goodgirl says she never got in the above paste. This was also mentioned in a post above that she had gotten it and could not get it installed or could not get it working one.

How many other inconsistancies should I need to point out guys?

Pretty straightforward, and as pornodoggy pointed out quite clearly, go against the terms and guess what?

Now, I have much better things to do than keep bitchslapping you with facts. I personally think enough has been shown and according to all the ICQ's ive gotten enough people see the real deal, so im off, and this thread is done as far as I am concerned.

Goodbye :thumbsup

goodgirl 05-21-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
What 8 months exactly?

here is the whole conversation we had that night:



now, here we have several things to be aware of.

#1. You came in at 4am, when you have been told by other customers sitting in there that our tech support hours are from 10am on to early evening. You ignore this advice and "of course" find no help. As the log says, you are lucky I was even awake at that hour working on a rush job for a client.

#2. Goodgirl says Ryan installed the script and charged her for installation. Yet in her quoted email ina post above it clearly shows that Jonathon Scalf installed it and for free.

#3. That goodgirl didnt come to us for support during all the prior timeframe and that she instead had a third party alter the code.

#4. The billing mod that goodgirl says she never got in the above paste. This was also mentioned in a post above that she had gotten it and could not get it installed or could not get it working one.

How many other inconsistancies should I need to point out guys?

Pretty straightforward, and as pornodoggy pointed out quite clearly, go against the terms and guess what?

Now, I have much better things to do than keep bitchslapping you with facts. I personally think enough has been shown and according to all the ICQ's ive gotten enough people see the real deal, so im off, and this thread is done as far as I am concerned.

Goodbye :thumbsup

haha

Post the whole convo, where I looked up at paypal and told you that it was Jonathon Scalf, And look in this thread again, where you can see the paypal transaction which I sent him $25. (uhm I guess I see what you mean by free) Spending $25= Free.



:thumbsup You are just so good.

baddog 05-21-2003 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
What 8 months exactly?

here is the whole conversation we had that night:



now, here we have several things to be aware of.

#1. You came in at 4am, when you have been told by other customers sitting in there that our tech support hours are from 10am on to early evening. You ignore this advice and "of course" find no help. As the log says, you are lucky I was even awake at that hour working on a rush job for a client.

you post 6 minutes of an hour long discussion and say that is the entire conversation?

And WTF are you talking about when you say "You came in at 4am, when you have been told by other customers sitting in there that our tech support hours are from 10am on to early evening. . .. "

That was my first time ever at your site, much less your chat. So quit with your lies, and twisting of the facts. You have a piece of shit script, and even worse support. You have made that pretty obvious to everyone here.

morecash 05-21-2003 03:19 PM

Hey William,

We had this arguement on hahahahahahaha last year about total date. Yes I talked to Guy and you quite abit about the problems with total date( I still have about 70 of the emails in a folder).
Most of my emails to you where about trying to get a hold of Guy since no one else knew anything about the script.

Guy tried for about a year to get the program to work and in the end, said the whole program had to be rewritten to get rid of the bugs(see below).



On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:44:01 +0100, Guy Powell wrote:

>Keep me updated I'm intruiged never seen that error before :)
>
>FYI, I am rewriting TotalDate (or will start soon) to be released late
>Octoboer/early November. I'm not sure what upgrades will cost probably
>nominal ammount but itll be a nice one when its out. Not 1 byte of
>original code. Same database just new code, possibly new
>templates. Hopefully no bugs and stuffs :) I have to admit im ashamed of
>TDs code, its poor, it was my first pro coding job.
>
>Guy

I woudl like to appologise for teh quality of the script, its not upto any
of my other scripts and was probably released prematurley - capturing bugs
and tracking si then a problemafter a wide-scale release. My reputation
matters as its my pay check :) It'll be worth the wait it will implement
various points missing from original one as well :)

Guy


He then left perlcoders and no one else at perlcoders did anything about the bugs in the script.

You where going to refund my money, but that never happened.

Cheers,
BOOM

Brujah 05-21-2003 03:29 PM

Is Adult Site Traffic
and DirtyDesignz the same person ?

Which AVS's are using this script ?

CashGordon 05-21-2003 04:20 PM

I bought some scripts from them including TAVS. But I never used them because they bring me so many problems. I waste the money.

Support is hard to get too.

baddog 05-21-2003 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Which AVS's are using this script ?

I don't know if there are any AVS's besides ours that have been able to make this thing work. I have talked to several people that attempted to start AVS's using that script, but they had to rethink that idea.

goodgirl 05-21-2003 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


I don't know if there are any AVS's besides ours that have been able to make this thing work. I have talked to several people that attempted to start AVS's using that script, but they had to rethink that idea.

I know of several by someone. But they had to get modifications for it to work :1orglaugh

baddog 05-21-2003 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goodgirl


I know of several by someone. But they had to get modifications for it to work :1orglaugh

oh, that is right, that AVS for women had the same script, right?

Anthony_A 05-21-2003 05:31 PM

Nuc,

You won't go anywhere with baddog. He's one of those people who gets it in their head he's right and unless you let him paint himself in the corner, he won't go away.

Porndoggy said it the best. I'll even put in another analogy. My AirCondition wasn't blowing cold enough for me in the car, I pop up the hood, and start playing with the AC unit, I think it needs more freon. It blows cold for a bit, then goes totatlly hot.

I take it in to the car dealer, it's not convered under warranty.

Don't understand why some people can't understand this.

baddog 05-21-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony_A
Nuc,

You won't go anywhere with baddog. He's one of those people who gets it in their head he's right and unless you let him paint himself in the corner, he won't go away.

Porndoggy said it the best. I'll even put in another analogy. My AirCondition wasn't blowing cold enough for me in the car, I pop up the hood, and start playing with the AC unit, I think it needs more freon. It blows cold for a bit, then goes totatlly hot.

I take it in to the car dealer, it's not convered under warranty.

Don't understand why some people can't understand this.

thanks for your valuable insight, now since you don't have any idea WTF you are talking about, nor do you know the circumstances, why don't you go back to sleep.

If you purchased a script from them, and could state how happy you were with the product and support you received, then you might have some valuable input, as it stands you have none of the above.

nuclei 05-21-2003 05:56 PM

And you obviously have no idea who Anthony is. Some people amaze me.

Brujah getverified for one

Anthony_A 05-21-2003 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


thanks for your valuable insight, now since you don't have any idea WTF you are talking about, nor do you know the circumstances, why don't you go back to sleep.

If you purchased a script from them, and could state how happy you were with the product and support you received, then you might have some valuable input, as it stands you have none of the above.

Whoa Old Man, calm down before you give yourself a stroke.

I have purchased a script from Will. I have received support for those scripts. I have also received support from Nuc on other things. Hell the fucker taught me how to make my consoles work in my first month. He has been helpful to me over the years and I can hit him up at 2 or 3 in the morn and he'll help with a tech issue no problem.

That's maybe because I'm not an asshole like you, who rubs everyone the wrong way to show he's "Baddog".

I want to show my respect to Senior Citizens, so I'll merely just say, enough said.

baddog 05-21-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
And you obviously have no idea who Anthony is. Some people amaze me.

Brujah getverified for one

yeah, I know who Anthony is, WTF does that have to do with anything?

baddog 05-21-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


Brujah getverified for one

yeah, it sure is, but highly modified. I can name a few that are modified, you have any that are not modified and function?

InsaneMidget 05-21-2003 06:28 PM

moo moo moo



like fuck I'm reading all that chat log.

Brujah 05-21-2003 06:28 PM

Is Adult Site Traffic and DirtyDesignz the same person ?

nuclei 05-21-2003 06:32 PM

Brujah: husband and wife i believe

nuclei 05-21-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


yeah, it sure is, but highly modified. I can name a few that are modified, you have any that are not modified and function?

of course it is highly modifed.
No intelligent webmaster wants to have the exact same system as anyone else. I dont know of a single copy that isnt modded to suit their wants or tastes.


But i will say that when James was asked before his words were to the effect of "Tavs is a very good base script, but you should modify it to meet your needs."

Brujah 05-21-2003 06:36 PM

dot dot dot

baddog 05-21-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


I dont know of a single copy that isnt modded to suit their wants or tastes.


or to make it work. . . . . of course, this will void your contract

goodgirl 05-21-2003 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


of course it is highly modifed.
No intelligent webmaster wants to have the exact same system as anyone else. I dont know of a single copy that isnt modded to suit their wants or tastes.


But i will say that when James was asked before his words were to the effect of "Tavs is a very good base script, but you should modify it to meet your needs."

Oh so An Intelligent webmaster would Modifiy the script. Which would make it so you don't have to support it anymore.

Nice loophole.

baddog 05-21-2003 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goodgirl


Oh so An Intelligent webmaster would Modifiy the script. Which would make it so you don't have to support it anymore.

Nice loophole.

GMTA, again

nuclei 05-21-2003 07:03 PM

They could ask us to mod it, as has been the case with a number of them. Or they can get their own inhouse coders to do it. That is their choice. Keep trying to spin the truth around though. It's rather funny.

L0stMind 05-21-2003 07:08 PM

"What we have here is a failure to communicate"

Brujah 05-21-2003 07:19 PM

I'm right, you're wrong.

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