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Old 05-20-2003, 12:11 AM   #1
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What ever happened to the war?

I havent paid much attention to the news lately.
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Old 05-20-2003, 12:13 AM   #2
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we won
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Old 05-20-2003, 12:22 AM   #3
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its been over for a few weeks.
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and they still havent found the bad bad weapons of mass destruction.. and do you know why they never will find them? because they dont exist ... most have forgotten that this was the reason for a useless war
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and they still havent found the bad bad weapons of mass destruction.. and do you know why they never will find them? because they dont exist ... most have forgotten that this was the reason for a useless war
... get over it, it was about the liberation of the poor people of iraq, period.
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and they still havent found the bad bad weapons of mass destruction.. and do you know why they never will find them? because they dont exist ... most have forgotten that this was the reason for a useless war
yea, but now they are all happy that gas prices are down again so no one gives a shit about the weapons anymore.
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You wont be thinking that at the end of 2003 if terrorist threats go to plan.
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:06 AM   #10
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You wont be thinking that at the end of 2003 if terrorist threats go to plan.
get outta here you smell towelhead
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:16 AM   #11
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and they still havent found the bad bad weapons of mass destruction.. and do you know why they never will find them? because they dont exist ... most have forgotten that this was the reason for a useless war
it was the bullshit reason given by the scum called the US government.
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:25 AM   #12
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... get over it, it was about the liberation of the poor people of iraq, period.
Unless they eventually "find" weapons. Then the reason will change back again.
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Unless they eventually "find" weapons. Then the reason will change back again.
... just another proove on the flexibility of the superior system.
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Old 05-20-2003, 04:21 AM   #14
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The war was so fast it was over before it started.

But if you want to see how the "Peace" is going you will have to log into a non US news base. I recommend The BBC online.

It would appear Bush has decided it's now a good idea to let the UN have a say in the future of Iraq. He must have been told by his business partners, sorry I meant his advisors, that this is the right way to go.
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The War's ratings decreased so the networks didn't pick it up for another round of episodes. They call it a 'hiatus' in the biz, it could be brought back in the fall to replace some of the early casualties of the new fall TV schedule. Probably will need new storylines, just has to be punched up.
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The War's ratings decreased so the networks didn't pick it up for another round of episodes. They call it a 'hiatus' in the biz, it could be brought back in the fall to replace some of the early casualties of the new fall TV schedule. Probably will need new storylines, just has to be punched up.
They are currently casting for auditions in Iran.
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... just another proove on the flexibility of the superior system.
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But if you want to see how the "Peace" is going you will have to log into a non US news base.
Not true.

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It would appear Bush has decided it's now a good idea to let the UN have a say in the future of Iraq. He must have been told by his business partners, sorry I meant his advisors, that this is the right way to go.
Would you please name the business/businesses that the President is involved with and also name his business partners?
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Would you please name the business/businesses that the President is involved with and also name his business partners?

Oh no, that would require proof and facts. Inuendo is so much simpler.
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Would you please name the business/businesses that the President is involved with and also name his business partners?
http://www.opensecrets.org/bush/cabinet.asp

They dont call it the corporate cabinet for nothing.

moooo
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Old 05-20-2003, 05:08 AM   #21
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... just another proove on the flexibility of the superior system.
you are joking

aren't you?

by your logic being schizophrenic is a more 'flexible' and therefore a healthier frame of mind that any alternatives

please tell me you're joking

or at least tell me you forgot your meds today
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http://www.opensecrets.org/bush/cabinet.asp

They dont call it the corporate cabinet for nothing.

moooo
Which business/businesses is it that the President is invovled with and who are his business partnters.

The only one that I see from your link that the President had any connection is Harken Energy and that was in 1986.

This is a little more current info about Harken Energy.

http://www.harkenenergy.com/

I cannot find any mention of the President.
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get outta here you smell towelhead
you're 19 aren't you?

your parents must have really indoctrinated you from a very early age
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Would you please name the business/businesses that the President is involved with and also name his business partners?
did this one fantastic post of yours really deserve an entire thread to itself?

you poor, deluded, bi-polar old fool
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Oh no, that would require proof and facts. Inuendo is so much simpler.
I for one, am glad you posted



please continue

i'll be right here, on the edge of my seat
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Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC:

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
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did this one fantastic post of yours really deserve an entire thread to itself?

you poor, deluded, bi-polar old fool
Your input is duly noted...you are dismissed.
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Your input is duly noted...you are dismissed.
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I for one, am glad you posted



please continue

i'll be right here, on the edge of my seat

Continue what? I posted my complete opinion.
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Where are all these Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam was supposed to have?
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Where are all these Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam was supposed to have?
Aliens stole them.
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"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

?Right now, about half of all the top Al Qaeda operatives are either jailed or dead. In either case, they?re not a problem anymore.? George Bush - May 5, 2003

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our Number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!" -- George W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
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The internal infrastructure of Iraq was in worse condition than anticipated.

Looting and general lawlessness is still rampant and beyond the control of coalition forces. This is preventing people from returning to work, because they fear leaving their homes will subject their property to looting. By key sectors of the populus not returning to work, its difficult to restart even basic civil operations to provide security and produce essential services such as electricity by the Iraqi people themselves. This is creating a perpetual cycle of instability.

With Saddam's iron grip removed, the people have been liberated politically. However this has created a deeply fractionalized political climate where various parties that were grossly repressed now feel they should have more say and power in the rebuilding process. Iran has been trying to infiltrate and seed extremism as well.

End result, coalition forces and eventually UN forces will end up providing security and country rebuilding services for many years to come.
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by your logic being schizophrenic is a more 'flexible' and therefore a healthier frame of mind that any alternatives
... I couldn´t have said that better myself, thank you!
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The internal infrastructure of Iraq was in worse condition than anticipated.

Looting and general lawlessness is still rampant and beyond the control of coalition forces. This is preventing people from returning to work, because they fear leaving their homes will subject their property to looting. By key sectors of the populus not returning to work, its difficult to restart even basic civil operations to provide security and produce essential services such as electricity by the Iraqi people themselves. This is creating a perpetual cycle of instability.

With Saddam's iron grip removed, the people have been liberated politically. However this has created a deeply fractionalized political climate where various parties that were grossly repressed now feel they should have more say and power in the rebuilding process. Iran has been trying to infiltrate and seed extremism as well.

End result, coalition forces and eventually UN forces will end up providing security and country rebuilding services for many years to come.
I think your last sentence was a given from day one...and the end result may not be a successful result.
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Where are all these Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam was supposed to have?
they must be hidden or he has secret facilities to make them. why else would be fuck the inspectors around? obviously he had something to hide.
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The proof is pretty much all over the place. However, anything having to do with chemical weapons can be disguised as something perfectly legit. Hasn't the US found two mobile chemical labs, chemicals burried underground, and a very odd checmical plant diguised so that it couldn't be seen from the air?
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Everyone has their right to their opinion, and I don't agree with everything our government does, but you know what?
America still kicks ass. I can get up every day, do the work I love (at least most days I love it) and go my entire week without wondering if a war is going to break out on my street.

Let me also point out the if Bush was Hitler, we would have taken Syria, and Saudi by now.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/bush/cabinet.asp

They dont call it the corporate cabinet for nothing.

moooo

Thats right we only want people who were unemployed for the last thirty years as cabinet members....
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We won the war while the French were too busy with their heads in the sand or was it that they were too busy shaving each other down, well whatever it was we won anyway! They haven't found Saddam yet but most of his men have been captured or they just gave up on their own!
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Don't you watch TV?? They're in Heaven, disguised cleverly as Chocolate Chip factories!!!
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Everyone has their right to their opinion, and I don't agree with everything our government does, but you know what?
America still kicks ass. I can get up every day, do the work I love (at least most days I love it) and go my entire week without wondering if a war is going to break out on my street.


so.. as long as your life is all peachy you dont care that your tax dollars go into bombing other countries? What have your wars so far accomplished? not a damn thing! Afghanistan is still a total mess, Iraq is still a total mess and we still have plenty of terrorist attacks.
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The leader of the free world.......fuckin' scary. Election 2004 is only 18 months away. Just like his dad who thought he could ride the wave of a successful mid-east military conquest, the economy will be George Dubya's undoing too.
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... get over it, it was about the liberation of the poor people of iraq, period.
Don't you mean it was to liberate iraq from it's oil?and getting over on the poor people of Iraq?
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so.. as long as your life is all peachy you dont care that your tax dollars go into bombing other countries? What have your wars so far accomplished? not a damn thing! Afghanistan is still a total mess, Iraq is still a total mess and we still have plenty of terrorist attacks.
Yes, but we're now controlling hundreds of billions of barrels of oil and have taken our balls out of the Saudi Fuckbags hands finally. Imagine having your biggest customer right next door with as much oil as you now. Now we can tell the Saudi's to fuck off. They can't control the price of oil any more.

Haven't you noticed how nervous the Saudi Royals are talking now when they are interviewed? They all look worried as hell. Plus their own people hate them too. They know the future is dim and their days are numbered.
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so.. as long as your life is all peachy you dont care that your tax dollars go into bombing other countries? What have your wars so far accomplished? not a damn thing! Afghanistan is still a total mess, Iraq is still a total mess and we still have plenty of terrorist attacks.
hey, the fact my gas prices dropped by about 20-30 cents a gallon is good enough for me...

oh and by the way...what has Sweden EVER done? While I don't always agree with our government and had my own misgivings about the war, I always get a kick out of other countries bashing on us when their own countries just sit around all day and do nothing at all...
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Old 05-20-2003, 04:30 PM   #48
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The news of the war is that they didn't win because Saddam , Oudai and his other son are still on the run and no weapons of mass destruction have been found. And because Mohammed Saeed Al-Sahaf is still on the run too
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Old 05-20-2003, 04:43 PM   #49
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Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC:

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
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Old 05-20-2003, 04:48 PM   #50
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I have six rules I live by

1.) Do unto others.....
2.) If something can go wrong, it will
3.) Never assume anything. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups
4.) The harder you train, the less you bleed
5.) Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
6.) Never believe anyone called smedley.

put a sock in it frenchie
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