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  • fred_anderson
    Confirmed User
    • May 2014
    • 45

    #1

    twistys

    Hi.

    Fred again.

    Just wrote an email about my thoughts about txxx, xvideos and pornhub network.

    Also want people to know what company that put my content online without having any tube license.

    I worked as a producer for many years.Back in 2011 - 2014 I licensed content to different paysites.
    One of the sites that published my licensed scenes everywhere is twistys that is owned by mindgeek.

    I wrote to twistys several times and also included the tube sites.

    Have all emails if somebody want to see them.

    In the emails I asked twistys to take down my videos or pay me 50 usd / video for the tube license...but they didn't even reply. Very frustating.


    I hope everyone will stop to promote twistys.com or you continue to help thieves.

    Any suggestions what to do so I can get paid for my content from them ?
  • Why
    MFBA
    • Mar 2003
    • 7230

    #2
    you must be new and had no clue what you were getting into when you started producing content.

    all of this was happening in 2011 as well, its not new.

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    • plsureking
      bored
      • Aug 2003
      • 4900

      #3
      the only people paying out reparations in porn is the courts. get a lawyer if you want your $50.

      you still shooting, Fred? they'd probably reply to you if you had something to sell

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      • trevesty
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2006
        • 3810

        #4
        all I've learned about you from all your threads is that you don't have a fucking clue how this business works.
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        • fred_anderson
          Confirmed User
          • May 2014
          • 45

          #5
          Originally posted by plsureking
          the only people paying out reparations in porn is the courts. get a lawyer if you want your $50.

          you still shooting, Fred? they'd probably reply to you if you had something to sell

          #
          I have been in the biz for many years...so I know how everything works.
          Shot exclusive for twistys from 2006 - 2014. Never had any issues when Shap was the owner.
          Still shooting...but have no interest to shoot for twistys.
          When you add 50 usd x hundreds of scenes it adds up to money...speciallly when we talk about several companies.

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          • fred_anderson
            Confirmed User
            • May 2014
            • 45

            #6
            Originally posted by trevesty
            all I've learned about you from all your threads is that you don't have a fucking clue how this business works.
            You dont know who I am so you should keep your stupid comments to yourself.

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            • plsureking
              bored
              • Aug 2003
              • 4900

              #7
              Originally posted by fred_anderson
              I have been in the biz for many years...so I know how everything works.
              Shot exclusive for twistys from 2006 - 2014. Never had any issues when Shap was the owner.
              Still shooting...but have no interest to shoot for twistys.
              When you add 50 usd x hundreds of scenes it adds up to money...speciallly when we talk about several companies.
              a million is zero if they aint paying lol

              sorry thats all the useless help i have available

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              • AmeliaG
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2003
                • 10662

                #8
                If you shot exclusive for them, wouldn't the license have been a work for hire one? If so, I believe they own all rights and are just doing what they wish with their own intellectual property.

                Did you have some special agreement or is their tube usage just not something you thought about when shooting?

                I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.
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                • fred_anderson
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2014
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AmeliaG
                  If you shot exclusive for them, wouldn't the license have been a work for hire one? If so, I believe they own all rights and are just doing what they wish with their own intellectual property.

                  Did you have some special agreement or is their tube usage just not something you thought about when shooting?

                  I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.
                  I do know the different between exclusive and licensed content.
                  The licensed scenes were not shot exclusive for twistys. For the exclusive content I did not say anything. And yes..for exclusive they asked me to sign a work for hire.
                  It says very clearly that twistys published my licensed videos on the tubes without having a tube license.
                  It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.

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                  • Colmike9
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7230

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fred_anderson
                    It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.
                    I'm sure they're ignoring you for a good reason, tho.
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                    • AmeliaG
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 10662

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fred_anderson
                      I do know the different between exclusive and licensed content.
                      The licensed scenes were not shot exclusive for twistys. For the exclusive content I did not say anything. And yes..for exclusive they asked me to sign a work for hire.
                      It says very clearly that twistys published my licensed videos on the tubes without having a tube license.
                      It is so low from a big company like twistys / mindgeek to not even reply to me with an answer.
                      Was the nonexclusive work licensed before or after the site changed ownership? Are you able to reach out to your same point of contact?
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                      • luismartinez
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2021
                        • 50

                        #12
                        someone should help out with this

                        Isn't shap the one from Twisty's? Its been years but the guy is nice as pie

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                        • fred_anderson
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2014
                          • 45

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AmeliaG
                          Was the nonexclusive work licensed before or after the site changed ownership? Are you able to reach out to your same point of contact?
                          It happened after Shap sold to mindgeek.
                          Never had any issues with Shap. Very correct guy.
                          My problem is with mindgeek that is the new owners.

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                          • MaDalton
                            I am Amazing Content!
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 39861

                            #14
                            I have been helping Fred with some other companies and he's right: non-exclusive license agreements usually say that the full length content has to be behind a paywall.

                            And unless it says otherwise - or has been agreed upon through an extra charge - one cannot put that content in full length on a free tube.

                            I do not know the specific license agreement between Fred and Twistys though.
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                            • 8pt-buck
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 4011

                              #15
                              Where is Sean now ? - Haven't heard from the old man in ages after the birth.
                              I thought Dean was top photographer ?

                              If you have contact info, tell him to stop around.

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                              • fred_anderson
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2014
                                • 45

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                I have been helping Fred with some other companies and he's right: non-exclusive license agreements usually say that the full length content has to be behind a paywall.

                                And unless it says otherwise - or has been agreed upon through an extra charge - one cannot put that content in full length on a free tube.

                                I do not know the specific license agreement between Fred and Twistys though.

                                I continued to shoot exclusive for twistys until around 2015. At the time we shot for several mindgeek sites like twistys, babes, playboyplus, mofos etc. These sites were always good to deal with and there was no issues.

                                The deal with twistys when they licensed my content was about honesty and trust as I have with all my clients. With twistys / mindgeek it had never been any problems before...so we never signed any papers where they could use my licensed content. It was a mutual agreement that they should keep my licensed content within twistys network. If they publish my content by mistake without asking me...sure...everybody can do mistakes. What makes me angry is that nobody from twistys / mindgeek can man up and get back to me.

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                                • CaptainHowdy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 94727

                                  #17
                                  Keep on pushing, fred . . .

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                                  • tfto
                                    GFY and your feelings.
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 2121

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by luismartinez
                                    Isn't shap the one from Twisty's? Its been years but the guy is nice as pie
                                    Shap was one of the nicest people in the biz. I thought Shap sold off Twisty's long ago.

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                                    • 8pt-buck
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Aug 2013
                                      • 4011

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                      Keep on pushing, fred . . .
                                      I have no idea who the fuck Fred is.. No disrespect but Dean ran the show.

                                      Would be nice to see Shap pop around ... How's the baby.. (Prob not a baby anymore)
                                      Come on around.. App Fred wants to talk to ya..
                                      I would like to whisper in your ear too bro

                                      God bless

                                      PS : I hate when mother fuckers talk shit behind someones back especially a successful business
                                      man when he hasn't been on this board in months.

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                                      • fred_anderson
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 45

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                                        I have no idea who the fuck Fred is.. No disrespect but Dean ran the show.

                                        Would be nice to see Shap pop around ... How's the baby.. (Prob not a baby anymore)
                                        Come on around.. App Fred wants to talk to ya..
                                        I would like to whisper in your ear too bro

                                        God bless

                                        PS : I hate when mother fuckers talk shit behind someones back especially a successful business
                                        man when he hasn't been on this board in months.
                                        I already have the contact info for Shap... but he is not the issue. Shap is a good person and he has nothing to do with this. Mindgeek is the company that published my content without tube licenses.

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                                        • 8pt-buck
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2013
                                          • 4011

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fred_anderson
                                          I already have the contact info for Shap... but he is not the issue. Shap is a good person and he has nothing to do with this. Mindgeek is the company that published my content without tube licenses.
                                          Yeah he is a good guy... Did some 'volunteer' work for Shap back in the day when he owned BigBreastLovers.

                                          With your situation, take it up with Mindgeek (if you can and they don't laugh at ya) ...
                                          Fabian Thylmann (Manwin) used to stop around here (GFY) bragging about some fuckin Montreal Rolls Royce.. I've been out of the loop so long that I have no idea if Fabian is locked up or not.. and who really cares.

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                                          • fred_anderson
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2014
                                            • 45

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                                            Yeah he is a good guy... Did some 'volunteer' work for Shap back in the day when he owned BigBreastLovers.

                                            With your situation, take it up with Mindgeek (if you can and they don't laugh at ya) ...
                                            Fabian Thylmann (Manwin) used to stop around here (GFY) bragging about some fuckin Montreal Rolls Royce.. I've been out of the loop so long that I have no idea if Fabian is locked up or not.. and who really cares.
                                            I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
                                            That is the reason why I write on gfy.

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                                            • 8pt-buck
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Aug 2013
                                              • 4011

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fred_anderson
                                              I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
                                              That is the reason why I write on gfy.
                                              Besides being a little piss ant like me.. who the hell you gonna talk too ?
                                              Better yet, who the hell is going to listen to ya ?

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                                              • OneHungLo
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 40906

                                                #24
                                                How do you know they (Twistys) are the ones publishing the videos?

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                                                • InfoGuy
                                                  80/20 Rule
                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                  • 3052

                                                  #25
                                                  If you want your money, then sue them.
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                                                  • ruff
                                                    I have a plan B
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 5507

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fred_anderson
                                                    I tried lots of times to talk with twistys and mindgeek....but nothings happens.
                                                    That is the reason why I write on gfy.
                                                    You should consult with an attorney for any serious discussion about your content rights. This is just forum masturbation and you're not going to cum.
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                                                    • 8pt-buck
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Aug 2013
                                                      • 4011

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ruff
                                                      You should consult with an attorney for any serious discussion about your content rights. This is just forum masturbation and you're not going to cum.

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                                                      • fred_anderson
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2014
                                                        • 45

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                        How do you know they (Twistys) are the ones publishing the videos?
                                                        it says very clearly that twistys is the uploaded.

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                                                        • OneHungLo
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 40906

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by fred_anderson
                                                          it says very clearly that twistys is the uploaded.
                                                          Is it on their Pornhub channel? post a link to the content.

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                                                          • fred_anderson
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2014
                                                            • 45

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                            Is it on their Pornhub channel? post a link to the content.
                                                            twistys posted my content on xhamster, xvideos, pornhub and several other tubes so my content is everywhere now.

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                                                            • 8pt-buck
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Aug 2013
                                                              • 4011

                                                              #31
                                                              Checked back figuring Sean popped on in ... He must be busy with his gorgeous wife and thinking Montreal is going to win the cup ..
                                                              (Excuse me a second, let me laugh about his fantasy hockey dream)

                                                              Yeah, post the link. I'm curious.. I wanna see what all this crying is about.

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                                                              • 8pt-buck
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Aug 2013
                                                                • 4011

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by tfto
                                                                -------
                                                                Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

                                                                Need say no more.

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                                                                • tfto
                                                                  GFY and your feelings.
                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 2121

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                                                                  Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

                                                                  Need say no more.

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                                                                  • CaptainHowdy
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 94727

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                                                                    Your avatar.. Jana Defi ...

                                                                    Need say no more.

                                                                    "Catch of the Day" . . .

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                                                                    • OneHungLo
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 40906

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fred_anderson
                                                                      twistys posted my content on xhamster, xvideos, pornhub and several other tubes so my content is everywhere now.
                                                                      Can you post a link to your content?

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                                                                      • fred_anderson
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2014
                                                                        • 45

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                                        Can you post a link to your content?
                                                                        Both xvideos and pornhub have reached out to twistys. I want to give it a few days to see if my content will be removed or if they want to pay for a tube license.
                                                                        Hope to have news shortly.

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