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nuclei 05-16-2003 09:51 AM

Okay, I am a bit confused here. I just read this entire thread and see a number of different people saying the EXACT same thing, about the no referers thing. And this company is saying that Adult Site Traffic sent his own traffic with no referers.

I really want to know how seeing as It is hardcoded in adult site traffics script to append ?AST to all sent traffic. It also always sends a referer.

I smell bullshit.

maxjohan 05-16-2003 09:54 AM

I change my mind..this is the biggest popcorn Ive ever seen...--->

drama


:glugglug

juice 05-16-2003 10:04 AM

what is Nunya1 and Nunya2 ??

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
Okay, I am a bit confused here. I just read this entire thread and see a number of different people saying the EXACT same thing, about the no referers thing. And this company is saying that Adult Site Traffic sent his own traffic with no referers.

I really want to know how seeing as It is hardcoded in adult site traffics script to append ?AST to all sent traffic. It also always sends a referer.

I smell bullshit.

I smell it too. Why did he buy traffic from us, mix it with his and publish HIMSELF as the source of the traffic? Why did he then ask Choker to change his name to OUR NAME and say that we sent the traffic exclusively? Better yet, why did Choker change the name to us when Perl Mountain sent the traffic? Even better, since Perl Mountain publicy acknowledges that he's nothing more than a $.02 reseller, any traffic that comes from him would be from someone else, right? Since that's the case, shouldn't his name have stayed on the report regardless? I smell the bullshit too, it's on the sole of my shoe and it looks and smells like Perl Mountain.

Our traffic does have a referrer code. Like I said earlier, we're more than happy to signup with Choker himself and put this mess to a closure. I, like you did not personally see any server logs nor have any detailed information on the alleged traffic from us.

Anyone that's commented before based on their rhetoric validates why abortion should be legalized and why the American education system sucks (they never learned how to read correctly).

Go make some money or something people, geesh!




Penn

maxjohan 05-16-2003 10:08 AM

Do we have a name change?

--> UcumNeverSeeMe.com



:glugglug

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
Do we have a name change?

--> UcumNeverSeeMe.com



:glugglug

You are an excellent of example of why abortion should be legalized! Go make some money or something.

nuclei 05-16-2003 10:13 AM

Penn E Less You missed the point altogether. I know for a fact any traffic that passes thru his system is appended with ?AST. His traffic is easy to spot due to this. He also asked for that to BE appended so people knew which traffic was his. It is hardcoded into the script.

You however admittedly sent the traffic he paid for and had you send DIRECTLY to chokers unique url. And according to choker that traffic had no referers, the same as a number of other people said.

nuclei 05-16-2003 10:15 AM

Choker: Kudo's on the leaders page. Very helpful indeed.

SGS 05-16-2003 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
Interesting.

A porn traffic broker that quotes the bible.
Just that alone scares me away.

My thoughts too... :glugglug

nocostporn 05-16-2003 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less



They torment us as they did Jesus.....


:1orglaugh had to quote that one

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 10:23 AM

I'm officially done with this thread. When Choker contacts us we'll send traffic to his URL and we'll put a rest to this nonsense.

For the rest of you naysayers and idiots who continuously spew rhetoric from your lips, go in your garage, get in your car, turn it on and take a nap in the drivers seat. :BangBang:



Penn

BVF 05-16-2003 10:26 AM

A thread like this is why I'm willing to sift through all of the bullshit. I've caught little nuggets of information in threads that are still making me money..

Since I regularly buy traffic from choker, I know that I can trust this list...And I'm for damn sure going to be spending some money with them in my traffic budget next month...

nuclei 05-16-2003 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less
I'm officially done with this thread. When Choker contacts us we'll send traffic to his URL and we'll put a rest to this nonsense.

For the rest of you naysayers and idiots who continuously spew rhetoric from your lips, go in your garage, get in your car, turn it on and take a nap in the drivers seat. :BangBang:



Penn

Actually i seldom comment on anything anymore unless i know for a fact what im saying is correct.

Seeing as we developed his system, I can say I know for a fact how his traffic is sent. And seeing as you ADMITTEDLY sent directly to chokers unique url, I can say for a fact that it was your traffic with no referers.

Case closed. Move on. Make money.

But like many others, I do know where i will NOT be buying traffic from.

Phoenix 05-16-2003 10:37 AM

Wow...Choker...i would like to talk to you about buying some exit traffic..hit me up on icq..so i can give you a call.

flashfreak 05-16-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
I change my mind..this is the biggest popcorn Ive ever seen...--->

drama


:glugglug

here's my contribution to this thread: FREE POPCORN FOR EVERYONE!


http://wedesignxxx.com/fun/popcorn.jpg

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


Actually i seldom comment on anything anymore unless i know for a fact what im saying is correct.

Seeing as we developed his system, I can say I know for a fact how his traffic is sent. And seeing as you ADMITTEDLY sent directly to chokers unique url, I can say for a fact that it was your traffic with no referers.

Case closed. Move on. Make money.

But like many others, I do know where i will NOT be buying traffic from.

Wow, you're a programmer. Must be one of those smart guys, eh? One of those logical thinking type of characters as well too, eh?

Well, if the turd bought traffic from us then isn't it quite feasible that he bought traffic from someone else as well and sent it to Choker, right? We didn't send much so the rest of that traffic didn't come from us and I don't know who it came from. If you don't personally have proof that we sent it, how in the hell can you make such a statement to us? Oh, you're a logical thinker, a Perl programmer.

I know who won't program anything for us :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh . I'd rather spend my pesos on an Indian development company offshore, at least they have the brains and can think "logically" about possibilities instead of stuffing their foot in their mouths.

How's the commodity programmers these days? Better not spend that $40k you make in one place because your jobs are going offshore pal.


The money counter is jammed again, gotta go.

Za Ha 05-16-2003 10:52 AM

Excellent post :thumbsup

Still those clicks have no match of what chockers traffic creates!!

I get over 600% prod from his traffic, at $7/k it may be a lot but its great!!!!!!!!!


Once again great post!

Sexzity 05-16-2003 10:56 AM

Can anyone explain to me, why a broker should send unprod. hitbot traffic?

I trust Penn E. Less and i don't thing he would ever try to cheat anyone.

nuclei 05-16-2003 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less
Wow, you're a programmer. Must be one of those smart guys, eh? One of those logical thinking type of characters as well too, eh?
Why thank you.

Quote:


Well, if the turd bought traffic from us then isn't it quite feasible that he bought traffic from someone else as well and sent it to Choker, right? We didn't send much so the rest of that traffic didn't come from us and I don't know who it came from.

What part of ALL traffic that passes thru his system is appended with ?AST did you not understand exactly?

You already admitted you sent the traffic he paid for directly to choker, and choker says it had no referers, so why are you still trying to spin this off? You gave the proof from your OWN post.


Quote:


I know who won't program anything for us :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh . I'd rather spend my pesos on an Indian development company offshore, at least they have the brains and can think "logically" about possibilities instead of stuffing their foot in their mouths.

They the ones who coded the rather simple proxy sender?
I'm impressed.

Dude, YOU spilled the beans on yourself. Stop trying to cover it up now, posts dont magically disapear. Everyone can back read this thread fully and know the truth.

nuclei 05-16-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexzity
Can anyone explain to me, why a broker should send unprod. hitbot traffic?

I trust Penn E. Less and i don't thing he would ever try to cheat anyone.

Sexzity, nobody said he was trying to cheat anyone. They just said his traffic was unproductive as hell.

nuclei 05-16-2003 11:06 AM

Why is it that when someone gets slapped with facts all they can then do is start namecalling BTW? Ive never understood that.

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


They the ones who coded the rather simple proxy sender?
I'm impressed.

Dude, YOU spilled the beans on yourself. Stop trying to cover it up now, posts dont magically disapear. Everyone can back read this thread fully and know the truth.

I was being sarcastic you idiot, no need to say, "Thank you". Let's try this again using ebonics. Better yet, basic english for you.

If Perl Mountain bought traffic from me and sent it to a link, isn't it possible that he did that with someone else? If Perl Mountain can afford your services then your work must be a piece of....Make sense?

"Watch John run. Run, run, run." (understand that?)

Moreover, no one is trying to cover anything Mr. programmer. Didn't we say that we'll take the Choker Challenge and put an end to this? I know why corporations send their work offshore. It's because of idiots like yourself that pretend to be programmers.

With respect to proxy bots, prove it or kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

// From our development team to you
System.out.println("Penn, that guy is a moron");

Sexzity 05-16-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


Sexzity, nobody said he was trying to cheat anyone. They just said his traffic was unproductive as hell.

It was this one:
Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
Penn E. Less sells suspected hitbot traffic

:)

I just can figure out, why sending unprod hitbot traffic.

If the traffic is unprod on chokers site, it could make it on other sites.
I have buyers telling me that my traffic works on there site and others brokers traffic did't. And off couse it goes both ways, my traffic don't work on all sites.

Maby Penn's traffic realy could make more signups on a paysite than others brokers traffic and the traffic just don't work on chokers site.

The only way to find a traffic source to a site is to try diff. sources and pick the one, there does it best on the site.
:)

DatingGold 05-16-2003 12:07 PM

choker you have ICQ or some IM? I wanted to ask you something about the traffic.

Jon 05-16-2003 12:13 PM

OY GEVAULT!

What a silly thread. Buying traffic from brokers is a silly thing indeed. Do you really think you're going to get some great quality traffic from people who sell it in bulk at prices under $10 for 1000 uniques? These deals remind me of those idiotic spammer CD deals where you buy 300+ million emails for $40. I guess I can understand why people would spend their cash buying into brokered traffic, because they don't have longterm traffic goals or are just too lazy to promote themselves, so they figure, sure, pay him $300 and he'll send me 100,000 uniques, score for me! But then when they make almost zero profit off of it, all they do is bitch and moan. You get what you pay for, nuff said. You pay shit for shit, something tells me you're going to end up with SHIT.

Some things that interested me from this entertaining thread:

- A traffic broker that uses a hitbot?? NO WAY!!! I refuse to believe such slander! :1orglaugh

- How exactly does a Traffic Broker become "A Leader in Adult Traffic"? I mean, aside from dubbing yourself at it and all.

- One broker using another broker's traffic to send to a third broker.. ehh too many brokers.

:ak47: Traffic Brokers

theking 05-16-2003 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
OY GEVAULT!

What a silly thread. Buying traffic from brokers is a silly thing indeed. Do you really think you're going to get some great quality traffic from people who sell it in bulk at prices under $10 for 1000 uniques? These deals remind me of those idiotic spammer CD deals where you buy 300+ million emails for $40. I guess I can understand why people would spend their cash buying into brokered traffic, because they don't have longterm traffic goals or are just too lazy to promote themselves, so they figure, sure, pay him $300 and he'll send me 100,000 uniques, score for me! But then when they make almost zero profit off of it, all they do is bitch and moan. You get what you pay for, nuff said. You pay shit for shit, something tells me you're going to end up with SHIT.

Some things that interested me from this entertaining thread:

- A traffic broker that uses a hitbot?? NO WAY!!! I refuse to believe such slander! :1orglaugh

- How exactly does a Traffic Broker become "A Leader in Adult Traffic"? I mean, aside from dubbing yourself at it and all.

- One broker using another broker's traffic to send to a third broker.. ehh too many brokers.

:ak47: Traffic Brokers

Good post.

Jon 05-16-2003 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Good post.

Thanks!

:thumbsup

nuclei 05-16-2003 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less
I was being sarcastic you idiot, no need to say, "Thank you".

Geee, and here I thought even such a low intellect as you have would have figured out i was being sarcastic. Guess I was wrong =/

Quote:

If Perl Mountain bought traffic from me and sent it to a link, isn't it possible that he did that with someone else? [/B]
Why would he? He did your traffic a certain way to show the truth. Also because it was the only way apparently to get you to participate in chokers fair test.

BZZZT. You failed. Miserably.

BTW: Thanks for proving my statement about those that get bitchslapped by facts being able to do nothing except resort to name calling.

nuclei 05-16-2003 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Good post.

Agreed

ppk 05-16-2003 12:47 PM

Adult-Site-Traffic sends traffic with ref urls, so it isn't possible that he mixed his traffic in with your traffic because i think none of the hits had ref urls.

nuclei 05-16-2003 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ppk
Adult-Site-Traffic sends traffic with ref urls, so it isn't possible that he mixed his traffic in with your traffic because i think none of the hits had ref urls.

Everyone seems to get this except him. He was caught out there and just doesnt want to face the reality of his position now that everyone has seen the truth.

Choker 05-16-2003 12:52 PM

Quote:

4. Choker makes many claims about our traffic yet he doesn't even know where the traffic came from! It surely wasn't from us because 88% of it was from traffic supplied by Perl Mountain exclusively
The only claims I make is that it is garbage. This traffic was not from Perl Mountain, as stated so often his traffic has specific referring urls attatched to it, I am also buying traffic from him, this traffic goes to a different page than yours did. His has many refering urls, yours had none.

Quote:

6. Choker nor Perl Mountain attend Internext conventions like we do. Is it they can't go or they are too poor to afford it? I don't know and I don't care but we'll see our friends in Florida again this year at Internext.
So this makes me a nobody because I have never went to a show before? Yeah I'm too poor to go to a show dude. What the fuck ever. I will be in Hollywood in August ONLY because it is so close to my home.

Your attitude that you and your company is so big is really sickeneing. What a arrogant attitude you have sir. If you knew how much traffic passes thru my servers every day you would shit your pants.

You are the self proclaimed "leader in adult traffic", yet so many people have commented here how shit your traffic is. And some guys call me arrogant, LOL.

I do not want to do business with you not because of this test, but because the fuckwad Cheeba Files is somehow your partner? This is the same fuckwad that was recently busted for his pathetic spamming on GFY http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=132995
I smell a lot of rotten things here. It is pretty obvious by this fuckwads lame spam attempts that most likely he has several nichnames here on GFY, question is , is Penn E Less one of them also?

Dude I have nothing against you or your company other than the fact that you are a arrogant ass, I lost no money on this as Adult Site Traffic has not charged me for this traffic. I knew this test page of mine would piss people off, and you know what? I don't give a rats ass who it pisses off. Even if it pisses of "The Leader in Adult Traffic" LOL

Jon 05-16-2003 12:53 PM

AaronM is winning the DVD player... no need to continue this thread.

NetRodent 05-16-2003 01:09 PM

Its a sure sign of a lousy company when their representatives insult people for asking questions. Who are these jokers?

nuclei 05-16-2003 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


So this makes me a nobody because I have never went to a show before? Yeah I'm too poor to go to a show dude. What the fuck ever. I will be in Hollywood in August ONLY because it is so close to my home.

Your attitude that you and your company is so big is really sickeneing. What a arrogant attitude you have sir. If you knew how much traffic passes thru my servers every day you would shit your pants.

You are the self proclaimed "leader in adult traffic", yet so many people have commented here how shit your traffic is. And some guys call me arrogant, LOL.

I do not want to do business with you not because of this test, but because the fuckwad Cheeba Files is somehow your partner? This is the same fuckwad that was recently busted for his pathetic spamming on GFY http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=132995
I smell a lot of rotten things here. It is pretty obvious by this fuckwads lame spam attempts that most likely he has several nichnames here on GFY, question is , is Penn E Less one of them also?

Dude I have nothing against you or your company other than the fact that you are a arrogant ass, I lost no money on this as Adult Site Traffic has not charged me for this traffic. I knew this test page of mine would piss people off, and you know what? I don't give a rats ass who it pisses off. Even if it pisses of "The Leader in Adult Traffic" LOL

Well said choker. Oh and Pen E Less, I have been to the old Miami shows, I have been to several of the vegas shows, and I was at the hollywood show last year. I have yet to meet anyone going by your nickname in person.

Cheeba Filas 05-16-2003 04:16 PM

Choker I've been very cool and laid back about all the bullshit allegations and laughing because it hurts me in no way. Nor does it hurt my business or business relations in the adult industry and out. Alot of people in this industry know who I am and how I play. They also would tell you I'm a no joke type of guy. Listen I travel to L.A., Vancouver, Detroit, Miami, Houston, and many other states all the time. NOW if you want to sit down and talk we can. Just let me know where, we can get some cannoli's and expresso. And discuss the FUCKWAD comment.

Like I said a lot people know me and a lot of guys know me on this board. Bro I'm no fucking joke you don't want to go there...

So you think about it my number is listed everywhere call me I can put you in my schedule. You seen my address I live in South Philly come to the neighborhood. We can play some numbers then goto my Uncle Joey's for dinner. It'll be fun. If your ever in philly come to Phillys hell kitchen and hangout. Other than that contact me I'll be in LA on July 22nd.

:thumbsup

nuclei 05-16-2003 04:28 PM

Choker thanks for this link

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=132995

was very enlightening.

Penn E. Less 05-16-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeba Filas
Choker I've been very cool and laid back about all the bullshit allegations and laughing because it hurts me in no way. Nor does it hurt my business or business relations in the adult industry and out. Alot of people in this industry know who I am and how I play. They also would tell you I'm a no joke type of guy. Listen I travel to L.A., Vancouver, Detroit, Miami, Houston, and many other states all the time. NOW if you want to sit down and talk we can. Just let me know where, we can get some cannoli's and expresso. And discuss the FUCKWAD comment.

Like I said a lot people know me and a lot of guys know me on this board. Bro I'm no fucking joke you don't want to go there...

So you think about it my number is listed everywhere call me I can put you in my schedule. You seen my address I live in South Philly come to the neighborhood. We can play some numbers then goto my Uncle Joey's for dinner. It'll be fun. If your ever in philly come to Phillys hell kitchen and hangout. Other than that contact me I'll be in LA on July 22nd.

:thumbsup

Cheeba, these guys are bitches. I don't think they want to go there. They talk crap on the boards and slander names but they want to shake your hand and suck your dick when you meet them in person. Don't they realize that South Philly guys talk with these :BangBang: and these :ak47: instead? Especially when someone tries to take money from someone with slander and lies, that's when the shit hits the fan.

Cheeba Filas 05-16-2003 04:32 PM

Thread is dead have a beef call me

Choker 05-16-2003 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penn E. Less


Cheeba, these guys are bitches. I don't think they want to go there. They talk crap on the boards and slander names but they want to shake your hand and suck your dick when you meet them in person. Don't they realize that South Philly guys talk with these :BangBang: and these :ak47: instead? Especially when someone tries to take money from someone with slander and lies, that's when the shit hits the fan.

Find me in Hollywood. I will say to your face what I said here. Your traffic was absolute shit. And Cheeba you are a pthetic spammer FUCKWAD. This goes for anyone I have offended on any bbs board. I will shake your hand, look you in the face, and tell you this. Best if we do this in a corner somewhere where others will not over hear us. I'm not joking dude. I don't kiss anyone's ass and I don't want anyone kissing my ass. If you have a problem with me say it to my face, cause you can bet your "multi million " dollar company I will say it to your face.


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