I predict Choker will win another DVD player.

Choker please hit me up on icq ( se signature ) I have some questions about selling traffic to you program

Well...
I was considering a 100k beginner campaign with UCumSeeMe.com to start things off... but thats just changed haha

Good on ya for exposing the cheats Choker :)

What about Spotbrokers?

Nah, AaronM will.

I bought some traffic from him a while ago, and it was exactly the same: no referring URLS, and a massive proliferation of clicks. It took me ages afterwards to get my TGP back up to the point where it was before, productivity-wise, as my trade-partners had of course all changed the percentage they sent me because of this.

Hey choker, can we do some business ? It's outside the realm of what you offer on your pages. 163385497

It has been my experience over the years that traffic brokers may be the most common of all of the crooks in this business.

i think people should know if there is fraud going on. i wouldn't want to see anyone get ripped off.

I won hits from this traffic place awhile back http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=120802

I remember my productivity was VERY low and if I remember correctly is was under 5%! If there is a way to retrieve a few days from TTT and take a screenshot I can do that.

The only reason I am posting this is to give my experiences with the traffic and have no business or personal connection to anyone on this board.

Seeing ucumseeme freaking out calling ppl liars when I know the hits I got sucked made me feel as though I should share my experiences with them.

very useful list .. i know where i buy my next traffic package ;)

i sale good hitz

Their traffic did not click, except for a couple times when a spanish ip clicked like a human could not for 15 minutes, until I blocked it in my htacess.

Well, I guess there you go Penn :) It is funny as hell, huh?

AST

I bet you'really glad that you got in here to read this thread before you totally wasted over $300.00.

Hell, I hope everyone gets to find out before they burn their money up like this..:)

It was worth the $320.00 that I totally WASTED to bring it public. Please refer all your friends to this thread :BangBang:

It's really hard to sit back and watch a slanderer with nothing else to do (because he's sure not making any money) continue to try and drag our name through the mud.

Here are the facts:

1. Perl Mountain is a cheap $.02 reseller and nothing more. Did he mention that he bought traffic from us as a reseller in the past? Bet he didn't mention that, did he? If we were so bad then why would he buy our traffic as our reseller? I'll tell you why, because he's a jealous person that' not successful (he can't even afford to advertise anywhere) and he envies our company.

2. Perl Mountain attempted to steal $45,000.00 from us like he's stolen from other people before in the past. He knows that we are a fair size company and since we've spoken before, he tried to pull the same scam on us as he did with other people.

3. We only sent a few thousand clicks to the Choker link, Perl Mountain sent the rest from his traffic program, not ours. He was listed on Choker with HIS website, not ours. Once he saw how crappy HIS traffic was, he tried to push the blame on us and say it was our traffic. We stopped sending traffic to the Choker link but traffic was still flowing in. Choker contacted him about it and it was Perl Mountain who was sending hitbot traffic, not us. Choker changed Adult-Site-Traffic on his page to UCumSeeMe afterwards. We're thinking of building a CockSuckinMen.com and featuring Choker with Perl Mountain (Who will suck whom? We'll let them decide).

4. Choker makes many claims about our traffic yet he doesn't even know where the traffic came from! It surely wasn't from us because 88% of it was from traffic supplied by Perl Mountain exclusively.

5. If Choker or Perl Mountain can prove that we originated the hitbot traffic then we will pay them $100,000.00 USD. It's that simple, enough said. We stand behind our traffic our company and more importantly, the satisfaction of our customers.

6. Choker nor Perl Mountain attend Internext conventions like we do. Is it they can't go or they are too poor to afford it? I don't know and I don't care but we'll see our friends in Florida again this year at Internext.

7. Lastly, you see how difficult it is to be the Leader in Direct Adult Traffic. Scum from all over the earth collaborate to try to smear your name in mud in order to steal your loyal customers. Our customers laugh at their allegations, our resellers laugh at their allegations and we too laugh at their slanderous lies.

8. I have money to make now, good riddance to this thread because it's a waste of time. Although I said I wouldn't post here again, I just could not let the human fecal matter continue to lie to you all.

UCumSeeMe.com, The Leader in Direct Adult Traffic.

They torment us as they did Jesus.....

Hey Buddy - thanks for the review.

Much appreciated.

Are you able to point us in the right direction for gay traffic only?
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Wait.

So Adult Site Traffic bought UCumSeeMe traffic and was going to send that traffic to Choker under his own name.

If the traffic did well, Adult Site Traffic would have taken the credit, but since the traffic did horribly, he had the source changed to where he bought the traffic from?

Pretty slimey, eh?

He mixed it with his traffic too and used us as his "Ace Card" just in case his traffic didn't score well. That's the kind of company you guys buy your traffic from?

May God have mercy on your soul if your answer is "yes".

TurboFace is the man that you need to speak to. Top notch guy, top notch traffic.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Helpful list Choker. :thumbsup

Well Penn, you can always send me some traffic and i'll post how well it does.

If your traffic is good then I don't see why you wouldn't pick a few people out to get maybe 10-15k hits each to prove where it comes from and that it's quality.

this thread reminds me why I choose not to deal with too many people

bashing eachother gets you nowhere

Perl Mountain isn't the only one who has been complaining. I've bought from him, and while I didn't get the greatest traffic in the world it was ok.

I've also bought from you guys, and the traffic was COMPLETELY USELESS. Now, I might have been unlucky - I didn't buy much, so that's always a possibility. However from all the other people who have posted here complaining about your traffic, that seems unlikely.

Contrary to Choker and Perl Mountain, I don't sell traffic, so don't even try to pretend that I'm posting this for my own gain. I do however buy traffic, and I've tested quite a few traffic sources. Yours is by far the worst I've tried.

I love Chokers traffic, and I've had good luck with Adult Traders, and I'll be testing more of the services on Chokers list. And though, as I mentioned, Perl Mountain's traffic wasn't the best I've tried, it was sufficiently good that I might buy from him again too.

Your traffic on the other hand didn't make an impact on my site AT ALL. Most of the "surfers" never even let the page load properly. Now that can be due to too aggressive use of pop-up's etc. that trigger people to close the window instantly, or it could easily be a hitbot (though I will say that I haven't tried to verify that, so that is just a possibility, not an accusation).

I use a couple of counters, as well as having my homegrown trade script track traffic and, the web logs themselves. Since the counters are far down on the page, the difference between the various tracking methods is a very god indication of how large percentage of the surfers let the page load. For your traffic it was less than 20%.

Productivity was less than 5%.

Maybe you should address the problems with your traffic instead of attacking your customers. If you filter your traffic and clean it up, and let someone trustworthy (like Choker) test the traffic, then maybe some of us here will be willing to try you again.

As it stands, however, I see your traffic as a complete waste of money.

Hi,

We've done that already and one complaint out of all the persons that we sent traffic to. There's always going to be one bad apple out of the bunch, you can't do too much about that except try to work with them. Customer satisfaction is #1 at UCumSeeMe.com Marketing and if the customer is ever unhappy, we do whatever needs to be done to make him or her happy.

I have money to make now, gotta go.

BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN.

Sorry you feel this way but contact us at TrafficSupport at UCumSeeMe.com and we'll look into this for you and resend you traffic accordingly. How many visitors did you buy from us? What is your username? I need this to prove that you actually bought traffic from us and that your story is indeed authentic.

Thanks :thumbsup

If this other guy is such the liar and it was his traffic not yours that sucked send some to Choker on your own name. Until then, enjoy the benefits of a country where someone can say you suck if that's what they think.

I guess that would be complaint number 2 in all your years as a traffic broker. Better edit your post from 1 complaint ever to at least 2.

Hi,

I just located your account and I've added 10,000 visitors to your account for FREE. I wish you better success and thank you for your initial business.



Penn

Who has bought it that actually knows people? That will vouch for it?

Thank you for that. If this traffic actually does perform better I will make sure to post an update.

UCumSeeMe should setup an account with Choker and send traffic directly. Maybe the results will be the same, maybe they won't, but right now no one knows for sure.

Adult Site Traffic should be put back up as the name on the first account, since that is in fact the type of traffic AST sends, and that was the point of this broker listing I thought...showing what type of traffic you can expect from a broker.

Some likely are, some aren't. Same with any area of the industry, design brokers, cheating affiliates etc. Good and bad everywhere.



This thread is a prime example of why I'll stick with promoting only traffic sources that I know and trust. The partnerships I've worked out with the traffic sources on my page have all been earned by each source. How? They sent me traffic and I evalutated it through my own network of free sites. I deal only in clicked traffic, and have yet to have even one complaint. All this crap about hitbots and traffic showing no referring urls etc.... I have no use for any of it.

That is a fantastic idea and we WELCOME THE CHALLENGE!

Choker, send an email to TrafficSupport at UCumSeeMe.com with linkcode and instructions. We'll put an end to these slanderous lies once and for all, let the truth be known!

"Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free"
-- Jesus in John 8:32

Now that's customer service. Not to many brokers do this. Well Sexzity has and I even called Adbuy on it once. Another brokers does it, but if I mention the name you guys get all upset and call me schizophrenic and shit. So I won't mention the company. But when guys do this it means they stand behind there traffic and the customer relations. I enjoy doing business with companies who practice customer satisfaction. :thumbsup

Interesting.

A porn traffic broker that quotes the bible.
Just that alone scares me away.

This is the real popcorn thread..shit, drama

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