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Old 02-27-2021, 12:56 PM   #1
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Bitcoin for payments

Do you use bitcoins for work? How common are they in the industry?
Or is everyone just talking about them?
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Old 02-27-2021, 01:29 PM   #2
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Got paid in btc a few times ..
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Got paid in btc a few times ..
I've created purse about year ago and still don't use it just because customers prefers PP in most cases )
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Should've asked for BTC payments, that would've been a nice 432.3% bonus (in exactly a year). ;)
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I wish all sponsors paid in Bitcoin because when you're paid in USD/cash you have incentive to spend it asap, because everyday you hold you lose purchasing power for your $$$$, while Bitcoin is a savings tech designed to increase with time (and the inevitable inflation)
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Interesting question. I've not used BTC yet, but I am willing to accept crypto as a payment method for my writing services if some client would like to pay in BTC or ETH.
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If not spent for living
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I wish all sponsors paid in Bitcoin because when you're paid in USD/cash you have incentive to spend it asap, because everyday you hold you lose purchasing power for your $$$$, while Bitcoin is a savings tech designed to increase with time (and the inevitable inflation)
I think most of the sponsors will do the crypto payments soon.
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Interesting question. I've not used BTC yet, but I am willing to accept crypto as a payment method for my writing services if some client would like to pay in BTC or ETH.
So why not to give a shoot?
Just let them know that you're accepting crypto from now.
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I only work with Ad Networks that pays with +Bitcoin.
Doing good for +2 years and had no problem.
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Doing good for +2 years and had no problem.
Do you keep it in your wallet hoping to get revenue or just use for everyday expenses?
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Do you keep it in your wallet hoping to get revenue or just use for everyday expenses?
Exchange it to get USD and then daily expenses.
I use Bitcoin to get payments only, cuz nothing goes wrong with Bitcoin wallets. other platforms may block your account for some weird reasons.
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I use Bitcoin to get payments only, cuz nothing goes wrong with Bitcoin wallets. other platforms may block your account for some weird reasons.
Got it!
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its all I use for work at this point. using anything else is kinda of counter productive.
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Cool! Great that it works for you!
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So why not to give a shoot?
Just let them know that you're accepting crypto from now.
I did, but not many people are interested. Hopefully, that will change soon.
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That will definitely change in the next couple of years. The pandemic contributes a lot to that!
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I'm getting paid by a couple of programs in BTC. CB and Stripcash. Just collecting it for now, no where to spend it yet.
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I think most of the sponsors will do the crypto payments soon.
It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.
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Do you know what exchange rate are programs using when they pay with BTC? Because each exchange/broker has a different price.

It would be great if they could pay with USDT, which is a stable coin. That way you don't risk getting paid let's say 1000 dollars in BTC and having 700 dollars a few hours later. Yes I know some people will say that we have FIAT mentality but it is what it is.
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It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.
All payment options have positive/negatives, leave it to each affiliate to choose what is best for ourselves.

Some see a savings technology as danger, others (me) see it as highly profitable & VERY convenient.

Remember, lots of us have lost with Epassport, Paxum & Payoneer account closures, foreign check fees, wire fees, & delays from all of these.
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I've been paying out in Bitcoin lately to the people that asks. So far so good.

And I was able to find a merchant solution for crypto payments the other day. Will be adding that to our premium programs.

Crypto just scares me some because of the regulations that will be coming in the future and knowing so little about this info showing up on blockchain and what the government is doing with that.
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It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.
The "stablecoins" might be more suitable if you are concerned with volatility.

BTC is not ideal because there's a public record of every transfer ever made that the entire world can freely see and the BTC network itself can only process so many transactions per block. The only way to scale it is increase compute capacity, which with bitcoin is an insane amount of electricity and servers already.
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I've been paying out in Bitcoin lately to the people that asks. So far so good.

And I was able to find a merchant solution for crypto payments the other day. Will be adding that to our premium programs.

Crypto just scares me some because of the regulations that will be coming in the future and knowing so little about this info showing up on blockchain and what the government is doing with that.
What merchants are there for creating crypto processing integrations right now?

BTC isn't going anywhere. The crypto that many governments have issue with are the ones that have anonymity built into their protocols like Monero. They cite money laundering as the reasons why. Other coins with public ledgers that aren't just the creators trying to fundraise a bunch of money and pocket it are fine.

Cardano (ADA) is even being talked about as an alternative in Africa where the currencies are too volatile. They are thinking about even using it as the official government currency.
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What merchants are there for creating crypto processing integrations right now?

BTC isn't going anywhere. The crypto that many governments have issue with are the ones that have anonymity built into their protocols like Monero. They cite money laundering as the reasons why. Other coins with public ledgers that aren't just the creators trying to fundraise a bunch of money and pocket it are fine.

Cardano (ADA) is even being talked about as an alternative in Africa where the currencies are too volatile. They are thinking about even using it as the official government currency.
Bitfinex Pay just launched no more than a week ago

Or use the truly permissionless way with BTC Pay Server
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All payment options have positive/negatives, leave it to each affiliate to choose what is best for ourselves.
Except the program is going to choose what is best for them.

Holding 7 figure balances on a volatile currency is an accounting nightmare. BTC dropped 15% this week, if a program was preparing for their payout and then now the value has dropped, they now have to acquire more BTC just to meet their payables, having just lost a significant amount of value (and possibly their margin).

Now their business model goes from buying, converting, and monetizing affiliate traffic, to speculating on volatile digital assets... This is going to add a ton of complicated tax liability and possibly put them under the microscope for tax evasion and money laundering.

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Ironically it's the smaller and/or international affiliates who demand services like epassporte, paxum, and payoneer. Affiliate programs don't like having to deal with those either.

The expenses and shortcomings of the traditional banking system are not enough of a reason for a large adult company to take on so much additional risk.
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Except the program is going to choose what is best for them.

Holding 7 figure balances on a volatile currency is an accounting nightmare. BTC dropped 15% this week, if a program was preparing for their payout and then now the value has dropped, they now have to acquire more BTC just to meet their payables, having just lost a significant amount of value (and possibly their margin).

Now their business model goes from buying, converting, and monetizing affiliate traffic, to speculating on volatile digital assets... This is going to add a ton of complicated tax liability and possibly put them under the microscope for tax evasion and money laundering.

Ironically it's the smaller and/or international affiliates who demand services like epassporte, paxum, and payoneer. Affiliate programs don't like having to deal with those either.

The expenses and shortcomings of the traditional banking system are not enough of a reason for a large adult company to take on so much additional risk.
Dude, it's dropped 15% in a day

But how short-sighted do you have to be?

Have you ever looked at any 5 year graph of Bitcoin? Zoom out and wake up dude!
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Dude, it's dropped 15% in a day

But how short-sighted do you have to be?

Have you ever looked at any 5 year graph of Bitcoin? Zoom out and wake up dude!
This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:04 PM   #45
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This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.
Agree about BTC. It is too volatile and their network is not good for high volume small transactions. But there are plenty of alternatives to BTC that don't have the same issues. There are also stable coins like USDT and USDC that are tied to the USD.
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This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.
You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
You get paid a few days after period ending OR you can submit payout asap at any given time (as long as minimum payout required)
It gives us a little control & no way is it perfect, nor is any other payment option, but this is the best one I've seen any sponsor have

BTC payout automatically after period ends, with option to request payment at any given time (must allow few days processing).

Those of us choosing the BTC payout option must accept the fact we might gain/lose depending on the volatility. I'm not saying EVERYONE should choose it, it's not for everyone
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You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
I can only assume Chaturbate has large BTC holdings already, and is taking advantage of affiliate BTC payouts to liquidate, as they are processing transactions in USD and keeping 100% of the balance.
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I can only assume Chaturbate has large BTC holdings already, and is taking advantage of affiliate BTC payouts to liquidate, as they are processing transactions in USD and keeping 100% of the balance.
I don't believe so. I think they have similar to ePayments before, they would pay affiliates a USD amount by buying BTC at market rate on the payout date and sending to the affiliate. There are probably other companies that do this.
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You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
You get paid a few days after period ending OR you can submit payout asap at any given time (as long as minimum payout required)
It gives us a little control & no way is it perfect, nor is any other payment option, but this is the best one I've seen any sponsor have

BTC payout automatically after period ends, with option to request payment at any given time (must allow few days processing).

Those of us choosing the BTC payout option must accept the fact we might gain/lose depending on the volatility. I'm not saying EVERYONE should choose it, it's not for everyone
How do they do the accounting for it? Do they buy the BTC equivalent when you earn it and then pay you out that amount later on, or do they report what they owe you in USD and then just pay out whatever the equivalent is in BTC?
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I don't believe so. I think they have similar to ePayments before, they would pay affiliates a USD amount by buying BTC at market rate on the payout date and sending to the affiliate. There are probably other companies that do this.
Makes sense. For that use case, it can work good as medium of exchange given that caveat of paying out the USD equivalent.
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