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  • leming
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    • Apr 2003
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    #1

    Bitcoin for payments

    Do you use bitcoins for work? How common are they in the industry?
    Or is everyone just talking about them?
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  • Cyber Fucker
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    • Sep 2005
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    #2
    I can accept any crypto. Even doge.

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    • Paul&John
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      • Aug 2005
      • 8617

      #3
      Got paid in btc a few times ..
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      • leming
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        • Apr 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
        I can accept any crypto. Even doge.
        I see
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        • leming
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          • Apr 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by Paul&John
          Got paid in btc a few times ..
          I've created purse about year ago and still don't use it just because customers prefers PP in most cases )
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          • zijlstravideo
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            • Sep 2013
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            #6
            Originally posted by leming
            I've created purse about year ago and still don't use it just because customers prefers PP in most cases )
            Should've asked for BTC payments, that would've been a nice 432.3% bonus (in exactly a year). ;)
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            • jscott
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              • Feb 2001
              • 25417

              #7
              I wish all sponsors paid in Bitcoin because when you're paid in USD/cash you have incentive to spend it asap, because everyday you hold you lose purchasing power for your $$$$, while Bitcoin is a savings tech designed to increase with time (and the inevitable inflation)
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              • LetterTwenty7
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                • Feb 2015
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                #8
                Interesting question. I've not used BTC yet, but I am willing to accept crypto as a payment method for my writing services if some client would like to pay in BTC or ETH.
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                • leming
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by zijlstravideo
                  Should've asked for BTC payments, that would've been a nice 432.3% bonus (in exactly a year). ;)
                  Yep )
                  If not spent for living
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                  • leming
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jscott
                    I wish all sponsors paid in Bitcoin because when you're paid in USD/cash you have incentive to spend it asap, because everyday you hold you lose purchasing power for your $$$$, while Bitcoin is a savings tech designed to increase with time (and the inevitable inflation)
                    I think most of the sponsors will do the crypto payments soon.
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                    • leming
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LetterTwenty7
                      Interesting question. I've not used BTC yet, but I am willing to accept crypto as a payment method for my writing services if some client would like to pay in BTC or ETH.
                      So why not to give a shoot?
                      Just let them know that you're accepting crypto from now.
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                      • just a punk
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                        • Jun 2003
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                        #12
                        Obey the Cowgod

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                        • leming
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                          • Apr 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                          It will work for sure!

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                          • bugmenot4real
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                            • Jun 2013
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                            #14
                            I only work with Ad Networks that pays with +Bitcoin.
                            Doing good for +2 years and had no problem.

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                            • leming
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                              • Apr 2003
                              • 1775

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bugmenot4real
                              I only work with Ad Networks that pays with +Bitcoin.
                              Doing good for +2 years and had no problem.
                              Do you keep it in your wallet hoping to get revenue or just use for everyday expenses?
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                              • bugmenot4real
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                                • Jun 2013
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by leming
                                Do you keep it in your wallet hoping to get revenue or just use for everyday expenses?
                                Exchange it to get USD and then daily expenses.
                                I use Bitcoin to get payments only, cuz nothing goes wrong with Bitcoin wallets. other platforms may block your account for some weird reasons.

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                                • just a punk
                                  So fuckin' bored
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 32385

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by leming
                                  P.S.
                                  Little typo "contacat" in the banner
                                  Yep. Thx for heads up!
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                                  • leming
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                                    • Apr 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bugmenot4real
                                    Exchange it to get USD and then daily expenses.
                                    I use Bitcoin to get payments only, cuz nothing goes wrong with Bitcoin wallets. other platforms may block your account for some weird reasons.
                                    Got it!
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                                    • leming
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                                      • Apr 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                      Yep. Thx for heads up!
                                      You're welcome!
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                                      • tbaahp
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                                        #20
                                        its all I use for work at this point. using anything else is kinda of counter productive.

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                                        • leming
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                                          • Apr 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by tbaahp
                                          its all I use for work at this point. using anything else is kinda of counter productive.
                                          Cool! Great that it works for you!
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                                          • LetterTwenty7
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by leming
                                            So why not to give a shoot?
                                            Just let them know that you're accepting crypto from now.
                                            I did, but not many people are interested. Hopefully, that will change soon.
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                                            • verybadsanta
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                                              #23
                                              That will definitely change in the next couple of years. The pandemic contributes a lot to that!

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                                              • djroof
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                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 25503

                                                #24
                                                Now waiting for BTC from Chaturbate for 1st time!

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                                                • Sergio
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                                                  #25
                                                  In principle, we can also pay in crypto on our adult dating network.
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                                                  • leming
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LetterTwenty7
                                                    I did, but not many people are interested. Hopefully, that will change soon.
                                                    Fingers crossed!
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                                                    • leming
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by verybadsanta
                                                      That will definitely change in the next couple of years. The pandemic contributes a lot to that!
                                                      Yep...
                                                      Thank you for Crypto expansion, COVID
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                                                      • leming
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by djroof
                                                        Now waiting for BTC from Chaturbate for 1st time!
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                                                        • leming
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sergio
                                                          In principle, we can also pay in crypto on our adult dating network.
                                                          Affiliates will be happy all the way!
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                                                          • LetterTwenty7
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                                                            #30
                                                            I have finally changed my sig because of this thread. ;)

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                                                            • leming
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LetterTwenty7
                                                              I have finally changed my sig because of this thread. ;)

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                                                              • hony
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                                                                • Nov 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                I'm getting paid by a couple of programs in BTC. CB and Stripcash. Just collecting it for now, no where to spend it yet.
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                                                                • leming
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by hony
                                                                  I'm getting paid by a couple of programs in BTC. CB and Stripcash. Just collecting it for now, no where to spend it yet.
                                                                  You always can exchange it to fiat )
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                                                                  • fuzebox
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                                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by leming
                                                                    I think most of the sponsors will do the crypto payments soon.
                                                                    It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

                                                                    The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.

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                                                                    • adultbizwork
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                                                                      • Aug 2018
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Do you know what exchange rate are programs using when they pay with BTC? Because each exchange/broker has a different price.

                                                                      It would be great if they could pay with USDT, which is a stable coin. That way you don't risk getting paid let's say 1000 dollars in BTC and having 700 dollars a few hours later. Yes I know some people will say that we have FIAT mentality but it is what it is.

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                                                                      • shake
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                                                                        • Jul 2003
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • jscott
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                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 25417

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                          It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

                                                                          The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.
                                                                          All payment options have positive/negatives, leave it to each affiliate to choose what is best for ourselves.

                                                                          Some see a savings technology as danger, others (me) see it as highly profitable & VERY convenient.

                                                                          Remember, lots of us have lost with Epassport, Paxum & Payoneer account closures, foreign check fees, wire fees, & delays from all of these.
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                                                                          • juddd
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                                                                            • Feb 2015
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I've been paying out in Bitcoin lately to the people that asks. So far so good.

                                                                            And I was able to find a merchant solution for crypto payments the other day. Will be adding that to our premium programs.

                                                                            Crypto just scares me some because of the regulations that will be coming in the future and knowing so little about this info showing up on blockchain and what the government is doing with that.
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                                                                            • brandonstills
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                                                                              • Dec 2007
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                              It would be a royal pain in the ass for most affiliate programs with significant volume to buy, hold, and send crypto for affiliate payments.

                                                                              The volatility alone makes it impractical and possibly dangerous.
                                                                              The "stablecoins" might be more suitable if you are concerned with volatility.

                                                                              BTC is not ideal because there's a public record of every transfer ever made that the entire world can freely see and the BTC network itself can only process so many transactions per block. The only way to scale it is increase compute capacity, which with bitcoin is an insane amount of electricity and servers already.

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                                                                              • brandonstills
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                                                                                • Dec 2007
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by juddd
                                                                                I've been paying out in Bitcoin lately to the people that asks. So far so good.

                                                                                And I was able to find a merchant solution for crypto payments the other day. Will be adding that to our premium programs.

                                                                                Crypto just scares me some because of the regulations that will be coming in the future and knowing so little about this info showing up on blockchain and what the government is doing with that.
                                                                                What merchants are there for creating crypto processing integrations right now?

                                                                                BTC isn't going anywhere. The crypto that many governments have issue with are the ones that have anonymity built into their protocols like Monero. They cite money laundering as the reasons why. Other coins with public ledgers that aren't just the creators trying to fundraise a bunch of money and pocket it are fine.

                                                                                Cardano (ADA) is even being talked about as an alternative in Africa where the currencies are too volatile. They are thinking about even using it as the official government currency.

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                                                                                • jscott
                                                                                  jscizzle
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 25417

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by brandonstills
                                                                                  What merchants are there for creating crypto processing integrations right now?

                                                                                  BTC isn't going anywhere. The crypto that many governments have issue with are the ones that have anonymity built into their protocols like Monero. They cite money laundering as the reasons why. Other coins with public ledgers that aren't just the creators trying to fundraise a bunch of money and pocket it are fine.

                                                                                  Cardano (ADA) is even being talked about as an alternative in Africa where the currencies are too volatile. They are thinking about even using it as the official government currency.
                                                                                  Bitfinex Pay just launched no more than a week ago

                                                                                  Or use the truly permissionless way with BTC Pay Server
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                                                                                  • fuzebox
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                                                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                    All payment options have positive/negatives, leave it to each affiliate to choose what is best for ourselves.
                                                                                    Except the program is going to choose what is best for them.

                                                                                    Holding 7 figure balances on a volatile currency is an accounting nightmare. BTC dropped 15% this week, if a program was preparing for their payout and then now the value has dropped, they now have to acquire more BTC just to meet their payables, having just lost a significant amount of value (and possibly their margin).

                                                                                    Now their business model goes from buying, converting, and monetizing affiliate traffic, to speculating on volatile digital assets... This is going to add a ton of complicated tax liability and possibly put them under the microscope for tax evasion and money laundering.

                                                                                    Remember, lots of us have lost with Epassport, Paxum & Payoneer account closures, foreign check fees, wire fees, & delays from all of these.
                                                                                    Ironically it's the smaller and/or international affiliates who demand services like epassporte, paxum, and payoneer. Affiliate programs don't like having to deal with those either.

                                                                                    The expenses and shortcomings of the traditional banking system are not enough of a reason for a large adult company to take on so much additional risk.

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                                                                                    • jscott
                                                                                      jscizzle
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 25417

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                      Except the program is going to choose what is best for them.

                                                                                      Holding 7 figure balances on a volatile currency is an accounting nightmare. BTC dropped 15% this week, if a program was preparing for their payout and then now the value has dropped, they now have to acquire more BTC just to meet their payables, having just lost a significant amount of value (and possibly their margin).

                                                                                      Now their business model goes from buying, converting, and monetizing affiliate traffic, to speculating on volatile digital assets... This is going to add a ton of complicated tax liability and possibly put them under the microscope for tax evasion and money laundering.

                                                                                      Ironically it's the smaller and/or international affiliates who demand services like epassporte, paxum, and payoneer. Affiliate programs don't like having to deal with those either.

                                                                                      The expenses and shortcomings of the traditional banking system are not enough of a reason for a large adult company to take on so much additional risk.
                                                                                      Dude, it's dropped 15% in a day

                                                                                      But how short-sighted do you have to be?

                                                                                      Have you ever looked at any 5 year graph of Bitcoin? Zoom out and wake up dude!
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                                                                                      • fuzebox
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                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 22353

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                        Dude, it's dropped 15% in a day

                                                                                        But how short-sighted do you have to be?

                                                                                        Have you ever looked at any 5 year graph of Bitcoin? Zoom out and wake up dude!
                                                                                        This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

                                                                                        This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

                                                                                        If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.

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                                                                                        • brandonstills
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                                                                                          • Dec 2007
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                          This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

                                                                                          This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

                                                                                          If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.
                                                                                          Agree about BTC. It is too volatile and their network is not good for high volume small transactions. But there are plenty of alternatives to BTC that don't have the same issues. There are also stable coins like USDT and USDC that are tied to the USD.

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                                                                                          • jscott
                                                                                            jscizzle
                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                            • 25417

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                            This topic is not about bitcoin as an investment or asset class.

                                                                                            This topic is about high volume, low margin affiliate programs who have a lot of throughput and payable accounts.

                                                                                            If a US-based program pays out 7 figures a week to affiliates, it is impractical for them to keep acquiring BTC on an exchange at that kind of volume, and will invite a tax audit.
                                                                                            You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
                                                                                            You get paid a few days after period ending OR you can submit payout asap at any given time (as long as minimum payout required)
                                                                                            It gives us a little control & no way is it perfect, nor is any other payment option, but this is the best one I've seen any sponsor have

                                                                                            BTC payout automatically after period ends, with option to request payment at any given time (must allow few days processing).

                                                                                            Those of us choosing the BTC payout option must accept the fact we might gain/lose depending on the volatility. I'm not saying EVERYONE should choose it, it's not for everyone
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                                                                                            • fuzebox
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                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                              • 22353

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                              You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
                                                                                              I can only assume Chaturbate has large BTC holdings already, and is taking advantage of affiliate BTC payouts to liquidate, as they are processing transactions in USD and keeping 100% of the balance.

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                                                                                              • jscott
                                                                                                jscizzle
                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                • 25417

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                I can only assume Chaturbate has large BTC holdings already, and is taking advantage of affiliate BTC payouts to liquidate, as they are processing transactions in USD and keeping 100% of the balance.
                                                                                                I don't believe so. I think they have similar to ePayments before, they would pay affiliates a USD amount by buying BTC at market rate on the payout date and sending to the affiliate. There are probably other companies that do this.
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                                                                                                • brandonstills
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2007
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                                  You're bringing up the volatility with payments, if you see how Chaturbate has it, beautiful.
                                                                                                  You get paid a few days after period ending OR you can submit payout asap at any given time (as long as minimum payout required)
                                                                                                  It gives us a little control & no way is it perfect, nor is any other payment option, but this is the best one I've seen any sponsor have

                                                                                                  BTC payout automatically after period ends, with option to request payment at any given time (must allow few days processing).

                                                                                                  Those of us choosing the BTC payout option must accept the fact we might gain/lose depending on the volatility. I'm not saying EVERYONE should choose it, it's not for everyone
                                                                                                  How do they do the accounting for it? Do they buy the BTC equivalent when you earn it and then pay you out that amount later on, or do they report what they owe you in USD and then just pay out whatever the equivalent is in BTC?

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                                                                                                  • brandonstills
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2007
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                                    I don't believe so. I think they have similar to ePayments before, they would pay affiliates a USD amount by buying BTC at market rate on the payout date and sending to the affiliate. There are probably other companies that do this.
                                                                                                    Makes sense. For that use case, it can work good as medium of exchange given that caveat of paying out the USD equivalent.

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