Why is Vivid marketing itself to kids? - GoFuckYourself.com

Deepundercover · 05-15-2003, 07:36 AM

From Los Angeles Daily News: Vivid Entertainment Group will introduce a snowboard this fall featuring the "Vivid Girls," the Los Angeles Daily News reports. The boards will retail for about $400, specially packaged in a black bag. Travis Wood, director of marketing for Sims Snowboards, said the target audience is 13- to 21-year-olds.

Vivid president Steven Hirsch would argue the demographic is older as some of the women displayed on the board are topless, an option potential customers will have to mull over. Some California retailers have already vowed not to sell the boards. Sport Chalet has carried Sims products for several years but decided the Vivid boards were inappropriate.

"We have a family store here. And we've decided not to carry such a product because we don't think our core customer would be interested," said Howard Kaminsky, Sport Chalet's chief financial officer.

KRL · 05-15-2003, 07:38 AM

Prepping future customers. Steve Hirsch is a marketing guy.

Danny_C · 05-15-2003, 07:38 AM

Hmm... I'm not sure what they're thinking.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-15-2003, 07:46 AM

definately not right..but they will sell out where and if they do sell them....hell i would buy one..nothing like riding naked girlies down the slope. I think they should market them to the 18 to ? group.

gothweb · 05-15-2003, 07:50 AM

If you can get someone to pay you money to display your brand all over the place, you do it.

Jakke PNG · 05-15-2003, 07:57 AM

Boohoo 13 year old sees tits. He'll have a trauma like no other.

PenetratinP · 05-15-2003, 07:59 AM

who needs these uppity brick and mortar stores......

all Vivid has to do is put one big ad in a major snowboarder magazine and sell them through their own online store....or any online sports store that is willing to make some cash.

FlyingIguana · 05-15-2003, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Prepping future customers. Steve Hirsch is a marketing guy.

he's a fucking idiot. those religious fucks will be all over this causing the government to crack down.

gornyhuy · 05-15-2003, 08:59 AM

It works for Joe Camel...

Why · 05-15-2003, 09:15 AM

id buy the board and hang it on my wall right next to the other two. fucking riding it. if its not burton i wouldnt strap it to my feet. and surely not a sims.

BRISK · 05-15-2003, 09:26 AM

The only thing that sells better than sex is controversy.

Combine sex and controversy and you've got yourself a garaunteed hit product.

MrPopup · 05-15-2003, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Deepundercover
From Los Angeles Daily News: Vivid Entertainment Group will introduce a snowboard this fall featuring the "Vivid Girls," the Los Angeles Daily News reports. The boards will retail for about $400, specially packaged in a black bag. Travis Wood, director of marketing for Sims Snowboards, said the target audience is 13- to 21-year-olds.

Vivid president Steven Hirsch would argue the demographic is older as some of the women displayed on the board are topless, an option potential customers will have to mull over. Some California retailers have already vowed not to sell the boards. Sport Chalet has carried Sims products for several years but decided the Vivid boards were inappropriate.

"We have a family store here. And we've decided not to carry such a product because we don't think our core customer would be interested," said Howard Kaminsky, Sport Chalet's chief financial officer.

So snowboards are only for kids?

You are an idiot.

Deepundercover · 05-15-2003, 09:46 AM

If you don't see something wrong with marketing porn to kids, then you are a moral idiot. It doesn't matter if adults also use the product (snowboard in this case).

cherrylula · 05-15-2003, 09:59 AM

yeah let's convince even more 16 year old girls how wonderful and glamourous it is to be a vivid girl. Prep the fresh meat.

MrPopup · 05-15-2003, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Deepundercover
If you don't see something wrong with marketing porn to kids, then you are a moral idiot. It doesn't matter if adults also use the product (snowboard in this case).

children also use computers. i suppose Microsoft shouldnt be allowed to sell computers. After all, look at all the porn.

fuck off

FlyingIguana · 05-15-2003, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

children also use computers. i suppose Microsoft shouldnt be allowed to sell computers. After all, look at all the porn.

fuck off

but microsoft doesn't have vivid girl screen savers in windows.

natkejs · 05-15-2003, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Deepundercover
From Los Angeles Daily News: Vivid Entertainment Group will introduce a snowboard this fall featuring the "Vivid Girls," the Los Angeles Daily News reports. The boards will retail for about $400, specially packaged in a black bag. Travis Wood, director of marketing for Sims Snowboards, said the target audience is 13- to 21-year-olds.

Vivid president Steven Hirsch would argue the demographic is older as some of the women displayed on the board are topless, an option potential customers will have to mull over. Some California retailers have already vowed not to sell the boards. Sport Chalet has carried Sims products for several years but decided the Vivid boards were inappropriate.

"We have a family store here. And we've decided not to carry such a product because we don't think our core customer would be interested," said Howard Kaminsky, Sport Chalet's chief financial officer.

always good to place investments in other industries for maybe a future solid income... but it takes a lot of cash ;)

sandman! · 05-15-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Deepundercover
From Los Angeles Daily News: Vivid Entertainment Group will introduce a snowboard this fall featuring the "Vivid Girls," the Los Angeles Daily News reports. The boards will retail for about $400, specially packaged in a black bag. Travis Wood, director of marketing for Sims Snowboards, said the target audience is 13- to 21-year-olds.

Vivid president Steven Hirsch would argue the demographic is older as some of the women displayed on the board are topless, an option potential customers will have to mull over. Some California retailers have already vowed not to sell the boards. Sport Chalet has carried Sims products for several years but decided the Vivid boards were inappropriate.

"We have a family store here. And we've decided not to carry such a product because we don't think our core customer would be interested," said Howard Kaminsky, Sport Chalet's chief financial officer.

I want one

Pipecrew · 05-15-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

So snowboards are only for kids?

You are an idiot.

Ever skiied or snowboarded before? Ever been on a mountain with 1000's of people around, waiting in line for the chairlift, people ALWAYS check out everyone elses equiptment, also on the chairlift, you have nothing better to do but check out other peoples stuff, and since 40% of people at the Hills are under 16, its sorta odd and the board will be exposed to a ton of kids.

directfiesta · 05-15-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Boohoo 13 year old sees tits. He'll have a trauma like no other.

HeHe ... they probably already fondled and fucked a few pairs at that age ... but don't show them....

gruffy · 05-15-2003, 10:59 AM

SOLD... GIMME GIMME GIMME.

My pet polarbear wants one too.

MrPopup · 05-15-2003, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

Ever skiied or snowboarded before? Ever been on a mountain with 1000's of people around, waiting in line for the chairlift, people ALWAYS check out everyone elses equiptment, also on the chairlift, you have nothing better to do but check out other peoples stuff, and since 40% of people at the Hills are under 16, its sorta odd and the board will be exposed to a ton of kids.

Dude...a torn miniscus from Blackcomb backcountry is what i got from boarding...lol.

Who gives a fuck...You judge your lifes actions by other people's morality?

Get the fuck out of this business then!

Kimmykim · 05-15-2003, 11:02 AM

One would assume that a 13 year old kid had parents that controled what he bought or didn't...

After all when my son asked for the 'naked lady' grips for his bike, I made the choice to tell him no.

Pipecrew · 05-15-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Dude...a torn miniscus from Blackcomb backcountry is what i got from boarding...lol.

Must not be very good ;)

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Who gives a fuck...You judge your lifes actions by other people's morality?

Get the fuck out of this business then!

I dont really care, I am just saying you were wrong when you implied that kids wouldnt see it.\

Mr.Fiction · 05-15-2003, 11:09 AM

Hustler and Playboy sell t-shirts and hats at all the hip clothing stores.

Kids wear hip clothing.

They're all going to hell.

This thread is a joke.

quiet · 05-15-2003, 11:14 AM

deepundercover aka duc aka lukeford?

goBigtime · 05-15-2003, 11:44 AM

If you buy one, don't ever take it out of that bag.

MrPopup · 05-15-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
If you buy one, don't ever take it out of that bag.

EXACTLY...some snowboards are meant strictly as art.

Mr.Fiction · 05-15-2003, 11:48 AM

Isn't there also a snowboard and skate clothing company called:

gigi · 05-15-2003, 11:50 AM

Wow, interesting to see the responses.

It must be said that North America is one of the most conservative countries out there.

Go to most European countries and women wander the beaches topless. Toronto passed a law a couple of years ago allowing women to wander the streets topless if they want.

Breasts are not porn IMHO.

I watched a documentary once on the Netherlands called 'Sex, Drugs and Democracy'. (great movie....you should check it out)....

They asked folks wandering the streets in the Netherlands how they feel about women wandering around topless. The folks that answered were absolutely puzzled as to why this would even be an issue. It is very commonplace in their society and they have no trouble bringing their kids to the beaches....

Matt 26z · 05-15-2003, 11:51 AM

Kids buy their snowboards from Wal-Mart. This one is $400. 1) How many kids can afford that? 2) How many parents would let them buy a snowboard with a pornstar on it?

As for others seeing people use these boards, that's like saying you can't wear a t-shirt in public that may be offensive to some people.

Besides, I don't think anyone is going to take a XXX snowboard to a family resort. That's one way to get in trouble pretty quick with management.

Tipsy · 05-15-2003, 11:54 AM

There's all this fuss about a pair of womens breasts? Amazing and very worrying at the same time.

Raven · 05-15-2003, 11:55 AM

It seems to me...that parents are going to be involved in the purchase of something that will cost them $400.

If they see a snowboard with a topless chick on it, I would think the parents have enough intelligence to say...no.

On the other hand, my nineteen year old is going to want one.

05-15-2003, 07:36 AM	#1
Deepundercover Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 312	Why is Vivid marketing itself to kids? From Los Angeles Daily News: Vivid Entertainment Group will introduce a snowboard this fall featuring the "Vivid Girls," the Los Angeles Daily News reports. The boards will retail for about $400, specially packaged in a black bag. Travis Wood, director of marketing for Sims Snowboards, said the target audience is 13- to 21-year-olds. Vivid president Steven Hirsch would argue the demographic is older as some of the women displayed on the board are topless, an option potential customers will have to mull over. Some California retailers have already vowed not to sell the boards. Sport Chalet has carried Sims products for several years but decided the Vivid boards were inappropriate. "We have a family store here. And we've decided not to carry such a product because we don't think our core customer would be interested," said Howard Kaminsky, Sport Chalet's chief financial officer.

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Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Hmm... I'm not sure what they're thinking.

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C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	definately not right..but they will sell out where and if they do sell them....hell i would buy one..nothing like riding naked girlies down the slope. I think they should market them to the 18 to ? group.

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PenetratinP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,689	who needs these uppity brick and mortar stores...... all Vivid has to do is put one big ad in a major snowboarder magazine and sell them through their own online store....or any online sports store that is willing to make some cash.

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	id buy the board and hang it on my wall right next to the other two. fucking riding it. if its not burton i wouldnt strap it to my feet. and surely not a sims.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The only thing that sells better than sex is controversy. Combine sex and controversy and you've got yourself a garaunteed hit product. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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Deepundercover Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 312	If you don't see something wrong with marketing porn to kids, then you are a moral idiot. It doesn't matter if adults also use the product (snowboard in this case).

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	yeah let's convince even more 16 year old girls how wonderful and glamourous it is to be a vivid girl. Prep the fresh meat.

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gruffy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canuckastan Posts: 776	SOLD... GIMME GIMME GIMME. My pet polarbear wants one too.

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	One would assume that a 13 year old kid had parents that controled what he bought or didn't... After all when my son asked for the 'naked lady' grips for his bike, I made the choice to tell him no.

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Hustler and Playboy sell t-shirts and hats at all the hip clothing stores. Kids wear hip clothing. They're all going to hell. This thread is a joke.

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Isn't there also a snowboard and skate clothing company called:

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gigi Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 691	Wow, interesting to see the responses. It must be said that North America is one of the most conservative countries out there. Go to most European countries and women wander the beaches topless. Toronto passed a law a couple of years ago allowing women to wander the streets topless if they want. Breasts are not porn IMHO. I watched a documentary once on the Netherlands called 'Sex, Drugs and Democracy'. (great movie....you should check it out).... They asked folks wandering the streets in the Netherlands how they feel about women wandering around topless. The folks that answered were absolutely puzzled as to why this would even be an issue. It is very commonplace in their society and they have no trouble bringing their kids to the beaches.... __________________ eMail ICQ: 32862272

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Kids buy their snowboards from Wal-Mart. This one is $400. 1) How many kids can afford that? 2) How many parents would let them buy a snowboard with a pornstar on it? As for others seeing people use these boards, that's like saying you can't wear a t-shirt in public that may be offensive to some people. Besides, I don't think anyone is going to take a XXX snowboard to a family resort. That's one way to get in trouble pretty quick with management.

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Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	There's all this fuss about a pair of womens breasts? Amazing and very worrying at the same time.

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Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	It seems to me...that parents are going to be involved in the purchase of something that will cost them $400. If they see a snowboard with a topless chick on it, I would think the parents have enough intelligence to say...no. On the other hand, my nineteen year old is going to want one. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~