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Reak · 05-15-2003, 11:57 AM

yeah agree

Donny · 05-15-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
yeah agree

You agree with what? My statement:

To be 100% honest with you this thread DOES affect my opinions of one of the two content providers that are fighting with each other. In a negative way. And it's not unseen world.

Aaron, this is a disgusting thread.

??

I see nothing wrong with the email that Aaron claims came from Unseen. Sounded to me like Unseen was expressing some sort of frustration with Aaron. It's definitely not something Aaron should become juvenile about by posting on a message board. And the threats he makes to unseen remind me of something from the mouth of a high school bully.

ToyBoys · 05-15-2003, 12:11 PM

damn this was a long thread..

Took me awhile to read through it all

Fletch XXX · 05-15-2003, 12:21 PM

Real threads hit 6 pages.

Quality.

Ludedude · 05-15-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Real threads hit 6 pages.

Quality.

Do I hear 7?

Penrod · 05-15-2003, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude

Do I hear 7?

7

LadyMischief · 05-15-2003, 12:27 PM

I'm a 7, yer an 8? :P

DarkJedi · 05-15-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Real threads hit 6 pages.

Quality.

And it's even without the second party being present.

Bow to the power

Brujah · 05-15-2003, 12:37 PM

Yeah, 7 and 8 year olds.

Jakke PNG · 05-15-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi

And it's even without the second party being present.

Happy happy joy joy. GFY rocks my world.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
To be 100% honest with you this thread DOES affect my opinions of one of the two content providers that are fighting with each other. In a negative way. And it's not unseen world.

Aaron, this is a disgusting thread.

I don't give a fuck.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi

And it's even without the second party being present.

Bow to the power

Did you mean, "Scoff at the juvenile antics?"

This thread is not how I'd want my "family" represented if I were boneprone.

I hope Unseen doesn't bother replying. I hope he's a bigger man than that.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

Did you mean, "Scoff at the juvenile antics?"

This thread is not how I'd want my "family" represented if I were boneprone.

I hope Unseen doesn't bother replying. I hope he's a bigger man than that.

He's a coward and you're an idiot if you think it was wrong of me to publicly out somebody who is lying about me and trying to tarnish my professional (non board) image.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

I don't give a fuck.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You're 29 years old (off the subject: I'm Dec. 23rd, 1973... just a few days apart from you)... I'd have expected more from a guy out of highschool for more than 10 years.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

You're 29 years old (off the subject: I'm Dec. 23rd, 1973... just a few days apart from you)... I'd have expected more from a guy out of highschool for more than 10 years.

This is GFY. Re-adjust your expectations.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

He's a coward and you're an idiot if you think it was wrong of me to publicly out somebody who is lying about me and trying to tarnish my professional (non board) image.

Did I miss something here? Because I didn't see anything damaging to you in the email that you posted. Can you please point out which parts were damaging to you?

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

Did I miss something here? Because I didn't see anything damaging to you in the email that you posted. Can you please point out which parts were damaging to you?

Again?

Read the thread. I have no interest in holding your hand today.

Notice that this thread was 248 replies deep before anybody seriously bitched about my posting it? I would say that makes you the odd ball out.

You are welcome to your opinions but expect me to defend mine.

LadyMischief · 05-15-2003, 12:54 PM

So if the shoe were on the other foot, Unseen wouldn't be allowed to address this issue? I mean I'm not trying to choose sides, that's not my style, but I would think that Aaron can address anything publically that AFFECTS him publically, because it appears that emails were addressed to people on this forum.

I've always thought that if a person is in the RIGHT, no matter WHAT people are saying, if they can come forward and say "Hey, that's not the way it is", it doesn't matter who believes them, they've done the right thing. If Aaron is lying, I don't see why he'd be so willing to publically come out and say something.. And if Unseen WASN'T lying, he should be willing to come forward and speak up for the truth (as he sees it) too. It's not my call to say who is right and who isn't.. I don't know the background on the story, therefore I'm not going to judge either party correct or incorrect. I'm simply stating what would or should NORMALLY happen in this kind of situation. I can however state my opinion on how it LOOKS, and that is by no means fact.

You know what they say about the word ASSUME, it makes an Ass of U and Me. I just hope shit gets resolved.. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the thread heh.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

He's a coward and you're an idiot if you think it was wrong of me to publicly out somebody who is lying about me and trying to tarnish my professional (non board) image.

Let's go line by line with Tom's email. When we get to the line that will somehow harm your business please let me know.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wonders of the Unseen World"
Subject: For your info...

Seems to me the subject line indicates a private conversation. Wouldn't he make things public if he wanted to hurt you?

Let's go on...

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I reamed Aaron privately a few weeks ago in ICQ, and ever since then he's been doing his best to make my life miserable whenever possible (so I think I must have hit a nerve). Basically, I accused him of being the worst kind of gossip, and he denied it, and yet here he's doing it again! And (as I'm sure you've noticed) when he gets on someone's case, he's such an insufferably mean-spirited asshole. He doesn't know when enough is enough.

Sounds like he wishes you'd ease up on him. Does that hurt your business?

Let's go on...

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Based on what he's done to me in the past, he passes along embarrassing (but harmless and meaningless) stuff that's true if you're lucky. More likely, he embellishes it with fiction and/or just makes stuff up entirely.

Damn... he even admits that some of the stuff you say about him is true. He claims you stretch the truth a little from time to time.

Still don't see how this hurts your business, though.

Let's go on...

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I dare not reply or he'll just escalate,

From this thread it looks like he's right about that one

Let's go on...

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and as someone who has had to deal with obsessive/compulsiveness in the past, I simply can't go very far down the path of disputing him (and besides, every time I respond it just bumps the discussion back to the top of the heap again, which I'm sure would make him happy).

Still see nothing that would damage your business.

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Tom ("UnseenWorld")

That seems pretty harmless.

Maybe it's just me... but I don't see anything wrong with that letter. It looks to me like he doesn't want any trouble. Please explain why this made it to a public message board. I'm having a hard time understanding it.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Maybe it's just me... but I don't see anything wrong with that letter. It looks to me like he doesn't want any trouble. Please explain why this made it to a public message board. I'm having a hard time understanding it.

I have no need or desire to explain fuck all to you. Once again, you're opinion does not mean shit to me.

Have I made that part clear enough?

EDIT.....If he did not want any trouble then he should have kept his lying mouth shut.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Notice that this thread was 248 replies deep before anybody seriously bitched about my posting it? I would say that makes you the odd ball out.

I was having a conversation with another person via ICQ today about an issue unrelated to this thread. The person on the other end of the conversation wrote:

btw, good post on http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...5&pagenumber=5

i feel the same way

Most people who think you should have kept this private aren't going to say so publicly because you might turn your frustrations toward them. I don't know Tom very well, but have spoken with him a few times. We share a few mutual clients and discuss them from time to time. He seems like a pretty good guy to me. I certainly don't think he deserves your threats on a public message board. Did you call him or email him before you posted?

Centurion · 05-15-2003, 01:02 PM

I wonder how many cat fights a day GFY averages?

jact · 05-15-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by SexySarah

What a fucking cry baby.

Nice first post. Shall we make #2 a response to me calling you an idiot?

Marcus · 05-15-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Not to mention that I am currently grabbing screen caps for one of today's updates.

I can multitask like that.

great work.
She is IN there.

Martin · 05-15-2003, 01:10 PM

This is what I'm doing----->

Have a nice looooong weekend.......

Ludedude · 05-15-2003, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I'm a 7, yer an 8? :P

ou812?

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

I was having a conversation with another person via ICQ today about an issue unrelated to this thread. The person on the other end of the conversation wrote:

btw, good post on http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...5&pagenumber=5

i feel the same way

Most people who think you should have kept this private aren't going to say so publicly because you might turn your frustrations toward them. I don't know Tom very well, but have spoken with him a few times. We share a few mutual clients and discuss them from time to time. He seems like a pretty good guy to me. I certainly don't think he deserves your threats on a public message board. Did you call him or email him before you posted?

1: FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME.....I do not give a fuck about you're opinion OR the opinions of others.

2: Tom, like others, can be very nice but there is only so much shit that I can take in exchange for that.

3: Why would I bother to email or call him? That would not fuel the GFY fires.

Remember...This board is here for my entertainment, not to make me money or business contacts. If I was concerned about you're thoughts and the thought of others then I would play nice instead of keeping it real....Yo.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by jact

Nice first post. Shall we make #2 a response to me calling you an idiot?

That made me laugh. Thanks bro.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude

ou812?

Decent album.

Donny · 05-15-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
3: Why would I bother to email or call him? That would not fuel the GFY fires.

Remember...This board is here for my entertainment, not to make me money or business contacts.

So now we see the truth.

Tom, no need to reply. Aaron doesn't want to settle anything, he just wants to entertain himself.

May I suggest South Park? It's quite entertaining.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

So now we see the truth.

Tom, no need to reply. Aaron doesn't want to settle anything, he just wants to entertain himself.

May I suggest South Park? It's quite entertaining.

What's there to settle? The guy is spreading lies about me AFTER he acuses me of the very same.

This is cut and dry. Nothing to settle on. Just fingers to be pointed.

Here are some fingers for you.

PornoDoggy · 05-15-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
mmmmm..... burrito smothered in Ranch.....

That''s just wrong ...

jact · 05-15-2003, 01:18 PM

So I see DonovanPhillips has shown up to head up the GFY ethics department. Good to see you, DonovanPhillips! This thread was looking like it might have died. You're a wonderful person to fuel the drama. We thank you! Our popcorn thanks you!

jact · 05-15-2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

What's there to settle? The guy is spreading lies about me AFTER he acuses me of the very same.

This is cut and dry. Nothing to settle on. Just fingers to be pointed.

Here are some fingers for you.

Chicken fingers? mmmm.

homegrownmof · 05-15-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

This is GFY. Re-adjust your expectations.

This is also GFY, where sometimes you actually do business.

I found two content providers here, one of whom is Unseenworld. We have since transacted some business. He seems ok to me, content was custom G/G video I asked for. Now I want more.

Aaron, your stuff looks decent. I was thinking about contacting you as well but I see mainly negative issues surrounding you- from the time that guy posted your phonecalls when you allegedly did not shoot the content he wanted or refused to remit some $$ to now with Tom.

You might want to re-adjust YOUR expectations of who wants to work with you after all this drama.

http://homegrowncash.com

Paul Markham · 05-15-2003, 01:31 PM

Homegrownmof, how is the Acacia thing going?

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by homegrownmof

This is also GFY, where sometimes you actually do business.

I found two content providers here, one of whom is Unseenworld. We have since transacted some business. He seems ok to me, content was custom G/G video I asked for. Now I want more.

Aaron, your stuff looks decent. I was thinking about contacting you as well but I see mainly negative issues surrounding you- from the time that guy posted your phonecalls when you allegedly did not shoot the content he wanted or refused to remit some $$ to now with Tom.

You might want to re-adjust YOUR expectations of who wants to work with you after all this drama.

http://homegrowncash.com

Why change who I am? If you don't like me, don't do business with me. I will still retire before 99.9% of the people here...With or without your business. I probably turn away more exclusive clients each month than Unseen shoots for on a regular basis.

No worries on my end.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Why change who I am? If you don't like me, don't do business with me. I will still retire before 99.9% of the people here...With or without your business. I probably turn away more exclusive clients each month than Unseen shoots for on a regular basis.

No worries on my end.

And for the record....I am pretty sure we met in person in May of 2002, if not prior to that, which was before you registered on this board. I know a few people with Homegrown. Have I EVER pursued any business relations with any of them? Nope, not once.

AllisonWonderland · 05-15-2003, 01:48 PM

Actually, your posting that email on the internet did more "damage" than by the author sending it to someone directly, with an expectation of pivacy. But you knew that.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by AllisonWonderland
Actually, your posting that email on the internet did more "damage" than by the author sending it to someone directly, with an expectation of pivacy. But you knew that.

Not hardly. Posting that email and calling him out has shown the kind of guy he really is. The fact that he has not replied to defend his lies further displays that.

Go back to Wonderland, Alice.

Ironhorse · 05-15-2003, 01:58 PM

You know, there are many content providers for the major players and their content often, if not exclusively, includes themselves as the cameraman or at least their cocks.

These are respected people in the industry and nobody is crying foul about, so wtf Unseen gets a little horny shooting 18 year old hotties, what's the big deal? There is no crime here people!

Machete_ · 05-15-2003, 01:59 PM

I actually took the time to read the whole thread (dident say I understood it ) but my money is still on AaronM - like always !

Brujah · 05-15-2003, 02:02 PM

Maybe Aaron's just trying to take out the Portland area competition.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93763

Ludedude · 05-15-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Decent album.

I agree. Good listening

homegrownmof · 05-15-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Homegrownmof, how is the Acacia thing going?

It's going. Taking an immense amount of time and resources. We'll post news when attorneys say we can.

Paul, can you guys shoot custom video? We discussed it years ago at our offices but never came to agreement. email moffitt at homegrownvideo dot com if interested.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
You know, there are many content providers for the major players and their content often, if not exclusively, includes themselves as the cameraman or at least their cocks.

These are respected people in the industry and nobody is crying foul about, so wtf Unseen gets a little horny shooting 18 year old hotties, what's the big deal? There is no crime here people!

You are correct. The crime is in spreading lies about me. To other photographers, models, and webmasters.

Unseen can fuck all of his models for all I care, as long as he is honest about himnself and others.

homegrownmof · 05-15-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

And for the record....I am pretty sure we met in person in May of 2002, if not prior to that, which was before you registered on this board. I know a few people with Homegrown. Have I EVER pursued any business relations with any of them? Nope, not once.

I met you at Muir's in SD a while back. I'm not saying you pursued us. I was going to pusue your business. But not a big deal. To each his own.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Maybe Aaron's just trying to take out the Portland area competition.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93763

Why does some idiot always have to use this bullshit angle? Nothing I say in this thread should hurt Unseen's business in any way. This thread was addressed to him, not his clients. You nosy fuckers wanna read it and then bitch...tough shit.

Buy his fucking content. WTF do I care? In fact, I am going to go change my sig to link to his site instead of mine.

AaronM · 05-15-2003, 02:14 PM

Sig changed.

Buy his content.....PLEASE! He needs the money to buy himself some dignity.

juice · 05-15-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

In fact, I am going to go change my sig to link to his site instead of mine.

By the way Aaron, what was the story behind you having an ADultCzechContent sig linking to your site?

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05-15-2003, 12:54 PM	#268
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	So if the shoe were on the other foot, Unseen wouldn't be allowed to address this issue? I mean I'm not trying to choose sides, that's not my style, but I would think that Aaron can address anything publically that AFFECTS him publically, because it appears that emails were addressed to people on this forum. I've always thought that if a person is in the RIGHT, no matter WHAT people are saying, if they can come forward and say "Hey, that's not the way it is", it doesn't matter who believes them, they've done the right thing. If Aaron is lying, I don't see why he'd be so willing to publically come out and say something.. And if Unseen WASN'T lying, he should be willing to come forward and speak up for the truth (as he sees it) too. It's not my call to say who is right and who isn't.. I don't know the background on the story, therefore I'm not going to judge either party correct or incorrect. I'm simply stating what would or should NORMALLY happen in this kind of situation. I can however state my opinion on how it LOOKS, and that is by no means fact. You know what they say about the word ASSUME, it makes an Ass of U and Me. I just hope shit gets resolved.. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the thread heh. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

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Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	yeah agree

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	So I see DonovanPhillips has shown up to head up the GFY ethics department. Good to see you, DonovanPhillips! This thread was looking like it might have died. You're a wonderful person to fuel the drama. We thank you! Our popcorn thanks you! __________________ Free agent

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Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	You know, there are many content providers for the major players and their content often, if not exclusively, includes themselves as the cameraman or at least their cocks. These are respected people in the industry and nobody is crying foul about, so wtf Unseen gets a little horny shooting 18 year old hotties, what's the big deal? There is no crime here people! __________________ [email protected]

05-15-2003, 01:59 PM	#292
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	I actually took the time to read the whole thread (dident say I understood it ) but my money is still on AaronM - like always !

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