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  • NALEM
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2010
    • 3164

    #1

    Are you investing in stocks or options? If yes ...

    Would you mind sharing what specifically you have invested in and why.

    I've spread money across 50 plus companies, and am at the point where I am looking to learn about more companies or invest more in the ones I have in the portfolio now.

    Looking for 30-100 percent annual return during the next year to year and half.

    Thanks.
    "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."
  • Ferus
    Bye - Left to do stuff
    • Feb 2013
    • 4108

    #2
    Originally posted by NALEM

    Looking for 30-100 percent annual return during the next year to year and half.

    Thanks.
    yeah, and zero risk I would guess?

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    • ilnjscb
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2009
      • 8973

      #3
      Originally posted by NALEM

      Looking for 30-100 percent annual return during the next year to year and half.

      Thanks.
      I was paying attention til you said that - the most options will add is 11% annually if you do it exactly right. A good book is:

      George Fontanellis "The Options Course"

      Don't invest until you know the greeks and when to use an iron condor

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      • NALEM
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2010
        • 3164

        #4
        Ferus, all investments come with a varying level of risk. Most companies were effected by COVID, the economic challenges that followed it, and where at one point between 50-80% off their peak. I'm up nearly 60% since this of investing which starting in May.

        Ilnjscb, thanks for suggesting the book. I am absolutely new to options. While I am still ahead money wise on the few options I exercised, I feel that I could be making smarter decisions.


        Anyhow,
        "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22352

          #5
          I also would like 100% annual return.

          Thx in advance

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          • trevesty
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2006
            • 3810

            #6
            Originally posted by NALEM
            Ferus, all investments come with a varying level of risk. Most companies were effected by COVID, the economic challenges that followed it, and where at one point between 50-80% off their peak. I'm up nearly 60% since this of investing which starting in May.

            Ilnjscb, thanks for suggesting the book. I am absolutely new to options. While I am still ahead money wise on the few options I exercised, I feel that I could be making smarter decisions.


            Anyhow,
            You bought in at an insanely massive valley and are expecting similar returns going forward? Not gonna happen, pal.
            The Fap Guide

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            • pornguy
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2003
              • 62912

              #7
              Those numbers are a little on the unrealistic side.

              I posted here a few months ago about grabbing stocks in some of the cruise companies. I did. I missed the one that I wanted and ended up paying about 16$ more per share but to-date that particular stock has gone up by more 36$ per than what I paid . It has made me a nice profit That was RCL. This stock will again go up and get much nearer its all time high as soon as the cruises start again.

              I also got into some tech stocks like Plug Power. another big gainer for me.

              The trick is to buy sit and wait and dont freak out. If the shares go down buy more. If you are a us citizen and a company you buy into gets removed from the markerts and your shares are worthless its a tax discount. ( not sure % any more as it has not happened to me in a long time. )

              Noting is 100% and nothing unless you have the gift of the gods will return 100%. But if you watch what you are doing and do it well you can make an ass ton.

              For the year I am up 75.38%

              Here is a tip. Stock that MIGHT go big in the next few months. 2 tips actually.

              LAZR boosted 8$ per on Friday. Do your research. Im going to buy into them on the next dip.

              Also MGI. I already to into this and might see it jump about 30% in the next 90 days. Do your research.
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              • pornguy
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Mar 2003
                • 62912

                #8
                Originally posted by trevesty
                You bought in at an insanely massive valley and are expecting similar returns going forward? Not gonna happen, pal.
                That depends.

                With all the things going on with the research for the virus there can be big money in Pharma. But picking the players is not easy.

                We will see in the next 12 months a number of almost unknown companies release new data and they will boom at least for a little while.

                This virus has also forced companies to rethink how they deliver to the customer. Some will survive others not. But there will be competitors for the biggest. And dont think just amazing but what about the delivery companies. as that booms so does other things.

                Where I live DHL is bringing on new trucks. You can tell by how good of shape they are in. 90% of them are Mercedes. So there is something to look at. DHL has about 285,000 employees so lets say at least 100k trucks and growing. They need to grow to keep smaller companies away. So both DHL and Mercedes will see increases. ( In the period from July to September, the Group increased revenue by 4.7% year-on-year to EUR 15.6 billion.) Might be worth the invest into DHL and Mercedes.
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                • InfoGuy
                  80/20 Rule
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3052

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NALEM
                  I am absolutely new to options. While I am still ahead money wise on the few options I exercised, I feel that I could be making smarter decisions.
                  First of all, options are not "investing". That shows how little you know about them.

                  People who trade options are either market makers, people looking to hedge and offset risk in their portfolios or people speculating in the underlying securities. Rookies like you may do well in a bull market, but you will get slaughtered when the tide eventually turns. The smart decision for you would be to stay out of the options market. Quit while you're ahead.

                  Options volume has increased ~50% Y/Y at the CBOE, ICE and NASDAQ, indicating there are a lot of noobs like you speculating in options. History has shown that when the common folks think that it is easy to double their money in a year, the bull market is usually towards the end.
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                  • Ferus
                    Bye - Left to do stuff
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 4108

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NALEM
                    Ferus, all investments come with a varying level of risk. Most companies were effected by COVID, the economic challenges that followed it, and where at one point between 50-80% off their peak. I'm up nearly 60% since this of investing which starting in May.

                    Ilnjscb, thanks for suggesting the book. I am absolutely new to options. While I am still ahead money wise on the few options I exercised, I feel that I could be making smarter decisions.


                    Anyhow,

                    I have been investing for many years and have a 3 star rating on the biggest investment-portal in Scandinavia. I have even posted screenshots here on GFY several times with my investments and recommendations - look it up - some of them are +600% the last year.
                    https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...t-invited.html

                    But aiming for a general 30-100 percent annual return across the board, is just plain igorant, when you are someone who come running to GFY for stock tips, and are the usual 2-9 months behind the curve.

                    I know what I am doing fuckward!!

                    You are the same idiot that came running after me after I sold out on Bitcoin and wanted to know how you could do the same... when the trading prize was $18k - Want a screenshot of that as well?

                    These are the two I have recommeded here the last year+

                    Plug Power


                    Plug Power


                    And this is you begging me for BitCoin knowledge

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                    • MaDalton
                      I am Amazing Content!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 39861

                      #11
                      Hydrogen does great in general.

                      Bloom Energy, Plug Power, NEL
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                      • NALEM
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3164

                        #12
                        Ferus, I am good about not remembering the few idiots that are on this board. That is until they show themselves.

                        Fortunately I don't know you personally or in business. You amigo, have unresolved personal issues, that need looking after.

                        You were quite rude when we exchanged our communication with one another. I reached out to you, not because you are the Queen of Bitcoin, but because of a specific person you claimed to know well at the brokerage. I was working towards a possible referral/introduction. Based on your hatred then, I can only presume that you had me confused for someone else that did wrong in your life. Regardless who it was, it's time you let it go.

                        Reaching out on GFY, to ask what others members are investing in, serves to engage this community, which happens to be very quiet these days, and because one might learn of something new.

                        Putting aside your oversized ego (don't know how else to describe your unfortunate attitude) I do appreciate your mentioning that you posted your stock picks. I'll see if I can find them and compare them to my own.
                        "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                        • NALEM
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3164

                          #13
                          PornGuy, thank you. I recently purchased LAZR at 22.

                          MaDalton, I have PLUG, but will look at Bloom Energy and NEL.

                          And for the others that commented. Yes I am an amateur. I've lost and made my money, and in the end, always averaged 12-15 percent annual return, which I am happy with. However I realize that most stocks took a big hit, and when I had the extra money, starting buying them in the hopes that many will return to their pre-Covid prices within two years.

                          Moving forward, if anyone else to share with us what you have invested in, it would be appreciated. Take care.
                          "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                          • Mahadeva
                            Cornfirmed User
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 151

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NALEM
                            Fortunately I don't know you personally or in business. You amigo, have unresolved personal issues, that need looking after.
                            At 600% gains, he certainly has the money to talk to a psychiatrist and have some good alcohol. Let’s say, for the purposes of “back of the napkin” math, that he invested all of his money in those stocks.

                            $43.81 x 6.00 = $262.86

                            So, he can at least afford a bottle of top-shelf before he’s back to being broke.

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                            • Ferus
                              Bye - Left to do stuff
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 4108

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mahadeva
                              At 600% gains, he certainly has the money to talk to a psychiatrist and have some good alcohol. Let’s say, for the purposes of “back of the napkin” math, that he invested all of his money in those stocks.

                              $43.81 x 6.00 = $262.86

                              So, he can at least afford a bottle of top-shelf before he’s back to being broke.
                              That was a funny comeback, I'll give you that

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                              • GAMEFINEST
                                Make STACK$
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 14478

                                #16
                                GM
                                DraftKings
                                EV stocks
                                Compound interest.

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                                • Ferus
                                  Bye - Left to do stuff
                                  • Feb 2013
                                  • 4108

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                  Ferus, I am good about not remembering the few idiots that are on this board. That is until they show themselves.

                                  Fortunately I don't know you personally or in business. You amigo, have unresolved personal issues, that need looking after.

                                  You were quite rude when we exchanged our communication with one another. I reached out to you, not because you are the Queen of Bitcoin, but because of a specific person you claimed to know well at the brokerage. I was working towards a possible referral/introduction. Based on your hatred then, I can only presume that you had me confused for someone else that did wrong in your life. Regardless who it was, it's time you let it go.

                                  Reaching out on GFY, to ask what others members are investing in, serves to engage this community, which happens to be very quiet these days, and because one might learn of something new.

                                  Putting aside your oversized ego (don't know how else to describe your unfortunate attitude) I do appreciate your mentioning that you posted your stock picks. I'll see if I can find them and compare them to my own.
                                  I have seen your BS trying to sell yourself as a seasoned veteran here on GFY for years now, and I dont give a flying fuck what you think.

                                  You bring nothing to the table

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                                  • Ferus
                                    Bye - Left to do stuff
                                    • Feb 2013
                                    • 4108

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                    Hydrogen does great in general.

                                    Bloom Energy, Plug Power, NEL
                                    Are you in to wind turbines as well?

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                                    • MaDalton
                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 39861

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ferus
                                      Are you in to wind turbines as well?
                                      not at all - any good tips?

                                      I wrote a thesis on wind power like 2 decades ago but haven't really followed up on the development since then.
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                                      • Sergio
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                                        • Apr 2019
                                        • 625

                                        #20
                                        What broker do you use? Still looking for a good US broker who works with foreigners
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                                        • sarettah
                                          see you later, I'm gone
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 14302

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ferus
                                          I have seen your BS trying to sell yourself as a seasoned veteran here on GFY for years now, and I dont give a flying fuck what you think.

                                          You bring nothing to the table
                                          ^^^ This ^^^

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                                          • NALEM
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2010
                                            • 3164

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sarettah
                                            ^^^ This ^^^

                                            .
                                            You and Ferus are delusional. Such comments imply that we are partners, and I failed to live up to my end of our business arrangement.
                                            "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                            • NALEM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2010
                                              • 3164

                                              #23
                                              Here is my contribution from the energy sector: Talos Energy (TALO)
                                              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                              • Ferus
                                                Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                • Feb 2013
                                                • 4108

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                not at all - any good tips?

                                                I wrote a thesis on wind power like 2 decades ago but haven't really followed up on the development since then.
                                                Maybe it's a chance to reinvent yourself

                                                Not really. In my view there are two companies to invest in when it comes to wind turbines - Siemens and Vestas, and I have a good portion in Vestas because I do work for them, but the business is hard to understand and there are to much politics involved for me to want to dig deeper.

                                                Across EU there are many that want to build off-shore parks and Vestas make a good deal of money on that, So I dont think its a bad bet, but I dont know enough to make actual reccomendation about it.

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                                  You and Ferus are delusional. Such comments imply that we are partners, and I failed to live up to my end of our business arrangement.
                                                  As an outsider looking in, at no point did either of their posts make me wonder if you guys had entered into some kind of business arrangement.

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                                                  • NALEM
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2010
                                                    • 3164

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                    As an outsider looking in, at no point did either of their posts make me wonder if you guys had entered into some kind of business arrangement.
                                                    Lloyd, you are absolutely correct.

                                                    I reread the original comment and my reply. It would of been more correct to state something along the lines of "Such comments imply that we (the Members of GFY and I) are partners, and I failed to live up to my end of our business arrangement.

                                                    Btw I hope you are doing well in SoCal.
                                                    "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                    • Ferus
                                                      Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                      • Feb 2013
                                                      • 4108

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by NALEM
                                                      Lloyd, you are absolutely correct.

                                                      I reread the original comment and my reply. It would of been more correct to state something along the lines of "Such comments imply that we (the Members of GFY and I) are partners, and I failed to live up to my end of our business arrangement.

                                                      Btw I hope you are doing well in SoCal.
                                                      It dont "imply" shit, and speaking like a pretentious teenager don't help your image as a unsuccessful version of Baddog copying JFK business-model.


                                                      Go ahead and regurgitate old ideas and thoughts from other people all you want - the people you are able to impress are not all that bright (lets not forget you tried to help the scammer elliso simply because you dident understand what he was doing)

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                                                      • MaDalton
                                                        I am Amazing Content!
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 39861

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ferus
                                                        Maybe it's a chance to reinvent yourself

                                                        Not really. In my view there are two companies to invest in when it comes to wind turbines - Siemens and Vestas, and I have a good portion in Vestas because I do work for them, but the business is hard to understand and there are to much politics involved for me to want to dig deeper.

                                                        Across EU there are many that want to build off-shore parks and Vestas make a good deal of money on that, So I dont think its a bad bet, but I dont know enough to make actual reccomendation about it.
                                                        i do have Siemens (and now also Siemens Energy) - but mostly because I worked there for 5 years and it still feels a bit like family

                                                        Unity started really great recently, made some money on that
                                                        https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/u

                                                        not sure though whether they will continue like that.
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                                                        • NALEM
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2010
                                                          • 3164

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Ferus
                                                          It dont "imply" shit, and speaking like a pretentious teenager don't help your image as a unsuccessful version of Baddog copying JFK business-model.


                                                          Go ahead and regurgitate old ideas and thoughts from other people all you want - the people you are able to impress are not all that bright (lets not forget you tried to help the scammer elliso simply because you dident understand what he was doing)
                                                          OMG, now its clear Ferus. You are in love with JFK, love his work, and are loyal to Julius like a dog should be to his master. Good for you, and great for him. Up to now, I didn't understand where the anger was coming from. Now it makes sense. From one stranger to another, I can only wish that you find peace.

                                                          Regarding Elisso, I provided the GFY member simple advice that I would follow myself, if I believed that I was a victim in a business relationship. The final outcome is in the hands of those two parties involved. No regrets from me.
                                                          "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                                          • Ferus
                                                            Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                            • Feb 2013
                                                            • 4108

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by NALEM
                                                            OMG, now its clear Ferus. You are in love with JFK, love his work, and are loyal to Julius like a dog should be to his master.

                                                            Dang -- you figured me out.. And here I was thinking I only loved myself because I thought I was above everyone else, I guess I was wrong then. And now it's just all because I love Julius... Because it could never be because I just plainly think you are a useless hack? nooo.. its the manlove

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                                                            • ilnjscb
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 8973

                                                              #31
                                                              Folks, options have decaying time value and thus should be part of a portfolio only when the underlying shows significant volatility. If you believe a stock will go up slowly over time, just buy the stock and hold it. To dip your toe in, buy a few calls on an equity you think will grow quickly to capture the value of the growth. Do yourself and your future self a favor and don't short, buy puts, or write any options unless you really know what you're doing.

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                                                              • baddog
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089

                                                                #32
                                                                Schwab has a thing where I was able to set up Custodian accounts for each of my grandchildren and by them fractional shares of up to 10 S&P companies.

                                                                That's what they get for Christmas and birthdays for the rest of my life (or they turn 21)

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                                                                • darnit
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 2439

                                                                  #33
                                                                  r/wsb is leaking.

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                                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 46238

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                    Hydrogen does great in general.

                                                                    Bloom Energy, Plug Power, NEL
                                                                    thanks

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                                                                    • Ferus
                                                                      Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                                      • Feb 2013
                                                                      • 4108

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by darnit
                                                                      r/wsb is leaking.
                                                                      That is the GFY of investments, I even think they have more conspiracy theories

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                                                                      • CAHEK
                                                                        C.C.C.P.
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 7414

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Invest in Mercedes Benz would be electric car leader then super expensive Tesla .

                                                                        Mercedes EV cars looking better and cheaper then Tesla anyways.

                                                                        They haven’t made yet any electric cars yet but once they do and mass production stock will sky rocket x2 .
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                                                                        • Ferus
                                                                          Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                                          • Feb 2013
                                                                          • 4108

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by CAHEK
                                                                          Invest in Mercedes Benz would be electric car leader then super expensive Tesla .

                                                                          Mercedes EV cars looking better and cheaper then Tesla anyways.

                                                                          They haven’t made yet any electric cars yet but once they do and mass production stock will sky rocket x2 .
                                                                          uhhmm, what are you talking about "havent made yet"? the whole EQC range is electric

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                                                                          • CAHEK
                                                                            C.C.C.P.
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 7414

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Ferus
                                                                            uhhmm, what are you talking about "havent made yet"? the whole EQC range is electric
                                                                            Yes it is electric. I mean “haven’t made yet “ mass production for electric vehicles, they still building factories.
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                                                                            • Ferus
                                                                              Bye - Left to do stuff
                                                                              • Feb 2013
                                                                              • 4108

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CAHEK
                                                                              Yes it is electric. I mean “haven’t made yet “ mass production for electric vehicles, they still building factories.
                                                                              As far as I know, they have been spitting out EQC 400 for almost a year now at the Bremen plant, and the one I was driving last month seemed pretty real to me. The goal is still 50.000 this year (havent heard any reports saying goal wont be reached)

                                                                              https://insideevs.com/news/402925/50...oduction-2020/

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                                                                              • bean-aid
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Jun 2011
                                                                                • 16493

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I also say cruise industry. Pick the healthiest and anticipate bankruptcies.

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                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 39861

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                  Hydrogen does great in general.

                                                                                  Bloom Energy, Plug Power, NEL
                                                                                  Of course not every day is like today but

                                                                                  Bloom +8.7%
                                                                                  Plug +13.87%
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                                                                                  • Porko
                                                                                    SeeMyBucks.com
                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 4014

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                    Would you mind sharing what specifically you have invested in and why.

                                                                                    I've spread money across 50 plus companies, and am at the point where I am looking to learn about more companies or invest more in the ones I have in the portfolio now.

                                                                                    Looking for 30-100 percent annual return during the next year to year and half.

                                                                                    Thanks.
                                                                                    My humble advice: put all the money in Vanguard SP500 (VOO) relax and slept peacefully.

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                                                                                    • D Ghost
                                                                                      null
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 9820

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      If you are invested in 50 companies, you might as well invest in a low-cost index fund which tracks the S&P 500. 50 companies (depending on their sectors) is going to probably keep you close to market return. You have the same systematic risk. Diversification is BS.

                                                                                      The odds are not in your favor as even 77% of mutual funds do not outperfom the S&P 500.

                                                                                      What you are asking do here is gamble. You will have better luck investing in 5 to 10 companies where you are taking on more risk to ourperform the S&P (the S&P will, for sure, not return that % in that time frame). You will be trading systematic risk for unsystematic risk of course (you can't escape risk altogether obviously).

                                                                                      Another alternative bet will be Bitcoin, Etheruem or Ripple.


                                                                                      READINGS:
                                                                                      https://www.spindices.com/spiva/#/reports
                                                                                      Over 5-year period 77.97% of mutual funds underperformed the S&P 500. If most of these market wizards can't outperform the S&P 500, then it isn't looking good for you.

                                                                                      https://alphaarchitect.com/2015/07/2...-be-different/
                                                                                      "To beat the market, you have to be different than the market. One simple way to do this is to hold a small number of stocks." (this does not guarantee you will beat market, but you will have a better chance with a portfolio of 15 or less than a portfolio of 50). I have returned over 75% in the last 1.5 years with equities, not including cryptoassets.

                                                                                      The bottom line is... if you aren't willing to read annual reports (like I have) and perform due diligence on specific firms, then you shouldn't be holding individual stocks. You should be invested in a low-cost index fund that tracks the market. What you are doing is pure gambling. What I do is invest in high-quality businesses at what I determine may be a fair price and don't plan on selling until they may become overvalued.

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                                                                                      • webguy

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                                                                                        PLYZ

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                                                                                        • D Ghost
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                                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                                          • 9820

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by webguy
                                                                                          PLYZ
                                                                                          And definitely don't buy over the counter pink sheets with no track record.

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