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FATPad 05-11-2003 08:58 PM

btw, I live alone now (man, the peace and quiet rocks), but when I did live with various women, I used to LOVE it when they went out for chick's night out. Was nice having the place to myself and doing whatever I wanted without having someone else around. I used to hope for chick's night out sometimes. heh.

iroc409 05-11-2003 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


That's a good answer. I'm sure I can try to have a good time and not take note of too many infractions, but I don't think he would do anything bad with me around. I don't know if he would like it though, I have a feeling he'll say "but all the other guys girlfriends don't mind and aren't coming, it's embarassing" or something like that. And yeah, I know GFY is not a great place to get relationship advice, but I just wanted to try and test the waters. :helpme

get crazy with the strippers yourself, and he'll be like a kid in a candy store. all girls are bi anyways, so just dive in!

Kanoealoha 05-11-2003 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


Yeah, i agree, it's pretty shitty. But what if the guys says he doesn't mind if the GIRL gets a lapdance from a male stripper or whatever, is it still just as bad?


thats a shitty excuse...

get a new guy..cause if he's willing to pay a chick to grind his dick with clothes on, imagine what he'll let a chick do if its for free..

NEXT!!!

SleazyDream 05-11-2003 09:43 PM

it's not cheating if it a russian stripper that beats the fuck out of the guy.

jact 05-11-2003 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


Because I want other peoples opinions, to see if I'm right or not.

You don't want anything but to argue. You're wrong, you're a feminist and you won't have it any other way. Enjoy being single.

:2 cents:

Betray 05-11-2003 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by vegas2003
it is not CHEATING, but it's a shitty thing to do to your gf-


totally agree with that one

Kanoealoha 05-11-2003 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


Because I want other peoples opinions, to see if I'm right or not.


You're at the wrong place...oh and don't try and talk him outta it...
as I remember a song I heard the other day..

guy singing...not exactly sure how it goes, but pretty much to this effect...

we don't care
we aren't sorry
and it'll probably happen again


So...believe me...my man would be out on his ass if he even asked...I do too much for him for him to go and do something I'm not chill with...


Fuck him, there is nothing feminist about it Jact...
nothing wrong with watching out for how you feel...cause god knows now a days no one will do it for you

C_U_Next_Tuesday 05-11-2003 10:23 PM

its not the night out with the guys you should be worried about..its when he wants to go all by himself...being a stripper for 15 years i can say guys in a group are just having fun..more with each other than with the girls... guys that go by themselves have an agenda to get something they dont get at home....let him go.. show him trust.. more n likely you will cross his mind a few times in the evening....

phogirl69 05-11-2003 10:30 PM

Oh well, about the compromise, I asked him if if he would mind if I came along to and got a lapdance too (because I know he gets turned on by girl-on girl action) but he got really mad . Guess he just wants to go with his friends, I think more than anything he just wants to be free and not be "put on check" and have a girl constantly tell him what to do. Oh Well, he can go fuck himself, good riddance.

TheFLY 05-11-2003 10:44 PM

My main attraction to strip clubs is the psychology of it all... especially in Vegas you get some very creative women... Some of these women are extremely smart -- and unraveling their lies and movements is like solving a beautiful jigsaw puzzle... Do you think it's just tits and ass when guys throw down a few grand? Who wouldn't pay for a masterpiece of seduction? a stripper can appeal to all of your senses. Most every lap dance I ever got I remember vividly... the stripclub is like a dreamland -- -- you pick your girl -- have your personalized dream -- then you wake up... no strings attached.

Other selling points of a smart strip club is that the women are there to be compassionate... lots of guys need affection, someone to give a shit, or maybe some soothing for whatever neurotic problem... but most of these women have troubled lives themselves... so it's a sort of fucked up therapy session... the women get to pretend they are somebody else -- they are admired and adored... the men drool and then the strippers use borrowed or personalized methods of exploitation... a real legitimate stripper will profit from dishing out the truth... The truth is worth good cash if the clients are there to appreciate it... what could be more honest than seduction purely for the sake of seduction... no wedding, no flowers, no diamond ring... just pure poetic seduction as convenient as fast food.

4Pics 05-11-2003 10:46 PM

I don't think there's anything wrong with him going to a stripclub, but you should provide enough excitement that he wouldn't need a lapdance. Now if you where to go with him for some reason, I don't see a problem if you bought him a lapdance.

The strip clubs that he wants to probably goto (Around OC) suck anyways.

Kanoealoha 05-11-2003 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
Oh well, about the compromise, I asked him if if he would mind if I came along to and got a lapdance too (because I know he gets turned on by girl-on girl action) but he got really mad . Guess he just wants to go with his friends, I think more than anything he just wants to be free and not be "put on check" and have a girl constantly tell him what to do. Oh Well, he can go fuck himself, good riddance.
Yup go fuck himself and make sure that you get home AFTER he does...like 2 days after...and make sure to say I went out with friends...he probably won't care.

Get a new guy, he doesn't want to compromise, neither should you.

Ppl talk about realtionships like there is only one person for you in a world of 6 billion...

Kimmykim 05-11-2003 10:59 PM

Um, hello, phogirl, how is it that you are missing the point of going to the strip club for starters?

You are paying the strippers to go away.

:)

Catalinas 05-11-2003 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Well there's only two options. He goes, or doesn't go.

If he doesn't go, where's the compromise? Where did YOU compromise? Seems like heeeeeeeee would be doing all the compromising.

Hehehe that was funny 'heeeeeeeee'

FATPad 05-11-2003 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
Oh well, about the compromise, I asked him if if he would mind if I came along to and got a lapdance too (because I know he gets turned on by girl-on girl action) but he got really mad . Guess he just wants to go with his friends, I think more than anything he just wants to be free and not be "put on check" and have a girl constantly tell him what to do. Oh Well, he can go fuck himself, good riddance.
Well, if you know he just wants a night out with his friends, asking to tag along would probably piss him off.

And no one wants anyone constantly telling them what to do.

Now we know why he wants a night out with the guys. No one constantly telling him what to do.

Catalinas 05-11-2003 11:13 PM

Um hi, ex stripper here who'd like to put in 2 cents.

Women need to grow up when they get that knee jerk reaction 'oh my Gawwwd, he's looking at another gurrrrrl!!!' Lol. Men NEED variety visually and mentally. It's when they don't get it that way that they go out and find it physically. And the answer is definitely that it depends on the lapdance. Some dancers do regular lapdances.. others are basically hookers. If you have a guy who respects you, he won't go too far. But as far as a regular lapdance, no, it's not cheating unless your boyfriend is trying to pick up on her. If he's paying her to do a dance and that's the end of it, trust me, the dancer is not thinking she wants your boyfriend, and since there's no chance he's gonna get her (99% of the time), then it's harmless fun.

A better argument would be that it's cheating for your guy to hit the bar at night with his guy friends where there is an actual possibility of him getting a date.

beemk 05-11-2003 11:17 PM

what will you get? your boyfriend will be horny from the strip club and when he gets home you will get better sex than usual. theres your "comprimise".

TDF 05-11-2003 11:19 PM

well when he beats his meat( and considering your poor sexual appetite hes doing it pretty often) do u consider that cheating?

Peter Romero 05-11-2003 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Catalinas
Um hi, ex stripper here who'd like to put in 2 cents.

... no, it's not cheating unless your boyfriend is trying to pick up on her. If he's paying her to do a dance and that's the end of it, trust me, the dancer is not thinking she wants your boyfriend, and since there's no chance he's gonna get her (99% of the time), then it's harmless fun.

A better argument would be that it's cheating for your guy to hit the bar at night with his guy friends where there is an actual possibility of him getting a date.

Nice site! I saw your EXTENSIVE FREE SECTION & I want to offer you & your hubby some work together or separate. Call me any time. BTW ? I couldn?t agree with you more on your post, I was a stripper for 9 years and us men are pigs you know, but I only fucked a few of my audience members out of 5000 parties.

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Peter Romero 05-11-2003 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by iroc409


girls cheat too, and they can lie better :warning

Dito! I have represented girls that have been doing B/G porn behind thier man's back for years and some of those boyfriend's waited in my driveway while I fucked the frown off her face for my site and she wiped the cum off her chin and took off with a grin & he never caught on to her sin!

Peter Romero 05-11-2003 11:58 PM

the Hun... dred!

phogirl69 05-12-2003 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
well when he beats his meat( and considering your poor sexual appetite hes doing it pretty often) do u consider that cheating?
What makes you think I have a poor sexual appetite? You don't know shit about me. I never should have started this thread.

TDF 05-12-2003 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


What makes you think I have a poor sexual appetite? You don't know shit about me. I never should have started this thread.


finally we agree on something! From your rants I can tell you either have no backbone or your sexually frustrated,but more than likelya combination of both

Kanoealoha 05-12-2003 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli



From your rants I can tell you either have no backbone or your sexually frustrated,but more than likelya combination of both


yeah he's right get NEW DICK!

vegas2003 05-12-2003 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
My main attraction to strip clubs is the psychology of it all... especially in Vegas you get some very creative women... Some of these women are extremely smart -- and unraveling their lies and movements is like solving a beautiful jigsaw puzzle... Do you think it's just tits and ass when guys throw down a few grand? Who wouldn't pay for a masterpiece of seduction? a stripper can appeal to all of your senses. Most every lap dance I ever got I remember vividly... the stripclub is like a dreamland -- -- you pick your girl -- have your personalized dream -- then you wake up... no strings attached.

Other selling points of a smart strip club is that the women are there to be compassionate... lots of guys need affection, someone to give a shit, or maybe some soothing for whatever neurotic problem... but most of these women have troubled lives themselves... so it's a sort of fucked up therapy session... the women get to pretend they are somebody else -- they are admired and adored... the men drool and then the strippers use borrowed or personalized methods of exploitation... a real legitimate stripper will profit from dishing out the truth... The truth is worth good cash if the clients are there to appreciate it... what could be more honest than seduction purely for the sake of seduction... no wedding, no flowers, no diamond ring... just pure poetic seduction as convenient as fast food.

you have crystallized the experience perfectly-I agree 100%

Buff 05-12-2003 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
Well, is it??

I think it kinda is, because he's getting his dick grinded by some other girl, and what if he has an orgasm or something? Isn't this cheating?

Cheating occurs in the mind (heart) before any physical activity takes place.

Or maybe that's just some sentimental bullshit some woman told me.

Either way, I've never had an orgasm from a lap dance -- at least not at the time of the dance. Later on, I might have jerked off thinking about the chick(s) or actually fucked them, but most dances are too short to finish the job, especially through pants.

theking 05-12-2003 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
Well, is it??

I think it kinda is, because he's getting his dick grinded by some other girl, and what if he has an orgasm or something? Isn't this cheating?

Anna Nicole???

Stamm321 05-12-2003 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Depends. Are you going to have fun and hang out? Or are you going to sit there with a clipboard writing down infractions? :winkwink:

I have no idea what your relationship is like. Maybe he just wants a night out? If you two spend every night and day together then a night out is good. If you two don't do anything together at all, then this may not be so good.

All the stupid smartass comments aside, you two have to find what's right for you...not what's right for a group of people on an adult messageboard.

No Fatpad, she needs to do whats right for US in this relationship.. or else were gonna break up with her!!

Eric 05-12-2003 12:49 PM

This is all about acceptable behavior inside of a relationship. A girl and guy agree that certain things are acceptable. If they agree that a lap dance is not, then yes this is cheating. But in some cases a couple may agree that they can fuck other people as long as the other person is present. And it goes both ways. That is not cheating. Cheating is basically doing something that you are not suppose to do. But if it is ok. How can that not be cheating. Hell your girl may get off on watching some other chick wax your johnson while she masturbates and blows the guy from down the street. If you are both ok with that. How is that cheating? It is all about perspective.

beavis 05-12-2003 12:57 PM

Some of those strippers do all kinds of shit back therer when they are getting a lap dance.


I got head before and did not even ask for it and did not pay extra.

gregtx 05-12-2003 04:19 PM

Is whacking off to a computer cheating too????


Lapdances are harmless and fun...

My old lady says... I can look at the menu all I want.. as long as I cum home to eat....

Yo Adrian 05-12-2003 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by vegas2003
it is not CHEATING, but it's a shitty thing to do to your gf-
What are you kidding? Getting a lapdance isn't a big deal at all, if your girlfriend thinks it is then you need to start looking for a new one...

stocktrader23 05-12-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69


No, if a guy cares about a girl he should respect what she's comfortable with, and if she's not comfortable with something he
should respect that. I don't feel it's a huge thing for a guy to give up, I feel it's something minor, it's not like I'm asking him to buy me a fucken car or go to the moon or anything, it's a small compromise, and if a guy cares about a girl he should be willing to sacrifice to make her happy.

Oh, so you compromised and let him go? I can name about 50 things that should be no big deal for my wife to give up, but any one of them would cause tension. Get over it. If he wanted to be out fucking other girls why would you want him anyway.

Jerry
Jerry
Jerry

Roald 05-12-2003 04:44 PM

http://www.adultdesignstudios.com/lapdance.jpg

No problem at all, it's not like you fuck her or anything. It's just some entertainment :Graucho

basschick 05-12-2003 04:52 PM

if you haven't made this a part of your relationship, and both he and you consider your relationship exclusive, yes - it's cheating.

most of the men i know who say to their gf/wives "oh, honey, it's not cheating" go fucking insane if their woman does the shit they do at the strip clubs. apparently it's only not cheating if you're a man *LOL*

don't you believe that bullshit about "if you excited him at home, he wouldn't go to strip clubs". i've seen guys with boring wives i can't imagine why they're with who never go to strip clubs, and guys with gorgeous, exciting, sexually on wives who greet them at the door in sexy lingerie or go to dinner with no underwear and masturbate under the table, then have him taste her finger for dessert. a guy that wants to have sexual contact with other women is going to do it no matter what you do or don't do, and whether you like it or not. find someone who shares your opinion of what a relationship is. why compromise about the person you share your life with?

Libertine 05-12-2003 05:17 PM

Whether it's cheating or not depends on what a couple has agreed upon. Nothing more, nothing less. However, if you agree to something you don't feel comfortable with, it is just as likely to fuck up your relationship as cheating is.

Personally, I stick to the "look don't touch" rule. Every straight man looks at women, however, any kind of non-casual touching - ranging from lapdances to kissing other women to fucking other women - is in my opinion essentially sex. I love my girl too much to even want to do that.

Thorin 05-12-2003 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by muchmoreporn
cheating can be debated, some couple let others fuck others is that cheating "no" but if your girlfriend doesnt want you at the strip bar its disrespectful and considered cheating. your doing something that in her eyes is not allowed.
This is the best response so far...

It's cheating if either partner says it is. If you can't agree on it then that's a strong case for why you might not be right for each other.

*Anything* is fine between conscenting adults, but it always takes two to tango.

liquidkid 05-12-2003 05:43 PM

phogirl69 - Your boyfriend won't think that hard about whether he should get a lap dance or not because he knows it doesn't mean shit, its the strippers job; he was probably out with his buddies and got a lapdance as did all his friends. You can't blame him for that...he's just havin fun.

Not allowing a guy to the strip club is like telling him he can't look at porn. Have some confidence in yourself and know he is coming home to you and not the stripper.

pink_in_the_middle 05-12-2003 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
If my old man went out to a strip club and DIDN'T get himself a kickass lapdance, I would smack him upside the head so hard when he got home his dick would invert. WTF? WHO CARES! He's not sticking his dick in her, it's masturbation with more visual stimulation, and with his clothes on. What's the big deal? Cripes. He's bringing the sexual energy home to me. *drool* (Side note, I almost ALWAYS go to the strip club with the guys, I get the lap dances free)
Do you even have a choice ;)


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