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Old 05-11-2003, 09:35 PM   #51
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:36 PM   #52
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I always got a kick out of this site:

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Old 05-11-2003, 09:40 PM   #53
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I always got a kick out of this site:

http://www.rational.org/Cult.html
I have similar criticisms..

Besides the religious aspects, they encourage the worst possible approach to treating a medical problem imaginable.. self diagnosis. Apparently all you need to do to become an alcoholic is blurt out "I'm an alcoholic" at an AA meeting, and voila! Instant disease.

Any medical organization that allowed that sort of idiocy would get sued off the face of the earth. Seems to me that AA survives because their quasi-medical diagnosis is just quasi enough that they don't fall under the scrutiny of the governmental bodies that regulate medical practice.

Kinda the same way the purveyors of herbal supplements like St. Johns Wort and Melatonin evade FDA scrutiny by claiming that their products are "diet supplements" rather than medicine.

There are big differences between someone who has a drinking problem, someone who is actually physiologically dependent on alcohol, and someone who has a genetic propensity towards alcohol addiction that will never go away. AA refuses to recognize distinctions like that.
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:42 PM   #54
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Btw here in Holland people dont go to things like AA that easy...we see it as a typical american thing. Not a bad thing tho but not just for us dutchies.
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:50 PM   #55
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There are big differences between someone who has a drinking problem, someone who is actually physiologically dependent on alcohol, and someone who has a genetic propensity towards alcohol addiction that will never go away. AA refuses to recognize distinctions like that.
Yes. Well put. I have always said this, or thought this at any rate. To AA people it is like "Alcohol is enjoyable, but if you enjoy it too much you have a problem.".... period. They tend to have a very carte blanche attitude about it, or all-encompassing.


I think you are right.... everyone is NOT the same.
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Old 05-11-2003, 10:02 PM   #56
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you don't need to drink to have a good time.

good luck with being sober
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you don't need to drink to have a good time.

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Old 05-11-2003, 11:07 PM   #58
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I always got a kick out of this site:

http://www.rational.org/Cult.html
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

AA has no motive - so it doesn't need me to defend it, and I never said I was a member. Drink all you want, and don't question if you have a problem or not. Just get outta my way when you fall asleep during sex with your limp dick in your hand and I'm stiffin it to your girlfriend.
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:13 PM   #59
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I think AA would be a great place to pick up weak and vulnerable chicks.
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:49 PM   #60
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I think AA would be a great place to pick up weak and vulnerable chicks.
as oposed to the extremely drunk ones that you pick up?
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:52 PM   #61
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as oposed to the extremely drunk ones that you pick up?
No! Never! As opposed to the crack whores that YOU pick up!
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Damn... was Val your girlfriend? Shoulda known by the skid marks!
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Old 05-12-2003, 12:01 AM   #63
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Damn... was Val your girlfriend? Shoulda known by the skid marks!
Yeah, ok, that was a POV flame!
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