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Old 05-07-2003, 03:32 PM   #1
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Whats up with Candid??

Ok I ordered one of their hosting packages online, and today they send me an email with a bunch of forms to fill out and fax, which is way more of a hassle then any other hosting company I have worked with. Anyways I found this form very odd, I have to trace my credit card now? What the fuck......Would you like my finger prints too candid?

Am I missing something here, is this normal? I just want some hostng, I dont wanna do all this crap.


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Old 05-07-2003, 03:33 PM   #2
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:33 PM   #3
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the pizza guy takes an imprint of my card
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:35 PM   #4
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You're lucky, they removed the urine sample...
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:37 PM   #5
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id take a picture of my penis and stick it in there, and tell them to fucking suck it.

they dont need all that BS. tell them to fuck OFF. i sure as hell would NOT jump through hoops for a hosting company.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:39 PM   #6
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We also need a retina scan.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:40 PM   #7
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id take a picture of my penis and stick it in there, and tell them to fucking suck it.

they dont need all that BS. tell them to fuck OFF. i sure as hell would NOT jump through hoops for a hosting company.
Ya thats what I thought.....ive used many hosting companies before and none were this invasive.....why would they need a copy of my credit card and picture id, So now I have to prove im not a criminal just to pay them.....No thanks.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:42 PM   #8
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Plus I dont have a scanner or fax machine....so even if I wanted to jump through the hoops I couldn't......I guess they lost some Bussiness.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:43 PM   #9
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I just never sent it in, they still setup my account
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:43 PM   #10
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Plus I dont have a scanner or fax machine....so even if I wanted to jump through the hoops I couldn't......I guess they lost some Bussiness.
Why don't you contact your sales rep. I am sure he can help.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:44 PM   #11
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Plus I dont have a scanner or fax machine....so even if I wanted to jump through the hoops I couldn't......I guess they lost some Bussiness.
stop smoking so much weed and walk your ass to kinkos
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:47 PM   #12
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stop smoking so much weed and walk your ass to kinkos
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:48 PM   #13
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That form is simply for your protection. We get 0% fraud with that form. Our bank requires a signature and copy of the card.
You would be amazed how many online signups that come in that are fraudulent...
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:49 PM   #14
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You're lucky, they removed the urine sample...

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Old 05-07-2003, 03:53 PM   #15
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That form is simply for your protection. We get 0% fraud with that form. Our bank requires a signature and copy of the card.
You would be amazed how many online signups that come in that are fraudulent...
Fraudulent? But wouldnt a simple processing of the credit card prove that it is in fact real, and all the address and everything match up with what im saying. Im just trying to buy a $45/month hosting package, Not a Hummer.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:58 PM   #16
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Fraudulent? But wouldnt a simple processing of the credit card prove that it is in fact real, and all the address and everything match up with what im saying. Im just trying to buy a $45/month hosting package, Not a Hummer.
With a credit card imprint and a signature, good luck charging back. I thought he explained it pretty clearly.

When you're charging your (big) clients big dough, I'd want to have that protection as well.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:59 PM   #17
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yOU THINK THATA BAD? I HAD TO FEDEX MY SPERM SAMPLE TO THEM.

Yo thats just so that you dont after 4 months charge back evrything and say you never gave them authorization
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:00 PM   #18
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who the fuck in business dont have a fax machine these days?
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:00 PM   #19
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yOU THINK THATA BAD? I HAD TO FEDEX MY SPERM SAMPLE TO THEM.

Yo thats just so that you dont after 4 months charge back evrything and say you never gave them authorization
Juicy we have sent that sperm sample in and have got the results back..........They said you are not a Guido.
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:01 PM   #20
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:02 PM   #21
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Its called professionalism. Damn some of you people are paranoid.
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:08 PM   #22
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You would be amazed how many online signups that come in that are fraudulent...
Fraud is a much bigger problem than most would assume.
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:47 PM   #23
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Hello MrPanama,

If you had contacted me and I could have cleared this all up for you but detoxed has it right
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The CC authorization is really there for both you and us to help keep costs down associated with fraudulent charge backs. To give you an idea we have a "0" charge back rate where we have a signed authorization in place, which I am sure you can understand keeps the processor's prices down.

Well I do hope this puts your mind at ease.
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Old 05-07-2003, 04:50 PM   #24
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its only a benefit to the host. Giving someone free reign of your credit card never leads to good situations.
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Old 05-07-2003, 05:41 PM   #25
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That form is simply for your protection. We get 0% fraud with that form. Our bank requires a signature and copy of the card.
You would be amazed how many online signups that come in that are fraudulent...
True, especially in the hosting business.

Have you tried banning certain IP ranges? I believe WHT has an old but good thread on a list of banned IPs.
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Old 05-07-2003, 07:18 PM   #26
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It's good business practice! I've not yet ever had a hosting chargeback but I have heard of some horror stories. It seems to me that the right forms would definitely get rid of the garbage. Candid has good low pricing and protecting themselves against another unnecessary espense only makes sense. You have to remember that for as many good honest webmasters as there are there are also a percentage of bastards that switch hosts frequently, don't pay their bills, etc.

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Old 05-07-2003, 07:22 PM   #27
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Why don't you contact your sales rep. I am sure he can help.
my sales rep touched me
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Old 05-07-2003, 08:15 PM   #28
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its only a benefit to the host. Giving someone free reign of your credit card never leads to good situations.

Local online computer shop said they will next day anything you order so long as they get to keep an imprint of your card on file w/signature.

Off the record my boy said they can basically charge anything they want to the card and you can't do anything about it.
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Old 05-07-2003, 09:50 PM   #29
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What you have to worry about are unscroupulous employees at companies that have this kind of info on file. With your DL and CC someone sneaking in the files can whack your identity and become you very easily.

As long as they have good security in place yeh odds are things like that won't happen. However very few companies practice safe storage of customer info.

There was an investigation here in Florida a couple years back where the news reporters were going around and collecting trash from outside banks to see how securly they were shredding financial documents.

It was frightening. In one dumpster, they found tons of copies of loan applications with everything from a to z about the applicants tossed away without having been shredded at all. In another dumpster were reems of computer printouts of customer account reports, showing SSN's and account balances for each person.
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Juicy we have sent that sperm sample in and have got the results back..........They said you are not a Guido.
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