how scalable is the goth niche? - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 05-07-2003, 04:50 PM

i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well.

do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

just curious what everyone thinks

Gutterboy · 05-07-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

No.

No.

No.

ezcash · 05-07-2003, 04:57 PM

Mutt · 05-07-2003, 04:59 PM

nope. if you're talking about large as in close to what u have now.

AmeliaG · 05-07-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well.

do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

just curious what everyone thinks

yup
ugh
depends on the traffic

Email me at [email protected] or hit me up on icq at 337070007 if you've got special or whale traffic and I'd be glad to help you test your stuff.

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gothweb · 05-07-2003, 05:27 PM

I have to admit, I have wondered this myself. So far, growth has been good-- but nothing on the scale of quiet's site or other big mainstream adult sites. I certainy think now is the time when people will be finding out. I am optimistic.

drunkdollars · 05-07-2003, 06:47 PM

Python just launched one so might want to ask some one over there.

I would say rather than just doing goth a "suidide girls" style site would cover a few more alternative niches and get a bigger audience.

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well.

do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

just curious what everyone thinks

could be profitable as hell. might not see the topline revenue of a hardcore type site, but the margins should be nice.

Mutt · 05-07-2003, 07:34 PM

yeah but realize that there isn't much content out there for goth/punk/alternative/suicidegirls niche - so you're definitely going to be shooting your own content or paying somebody to shoot it.

can't get retention out of a gothy design, 20 gothy photosets and then a bunch of the usual plugins.

AmeliaG · 05-07-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
yeah but realize that there isn't much content out there for goth/punk/alternative/suicidegirls niche - so you're definitely going to be shooting your own content or paying somebody to shoot it.

can't get retention out of a gothy design, 20 gothy photosets and then a bunch of the usual plugins.

. . . but, if you have existing traffic, with no additional investment, ya could make bank promoting http://www.gothicsluts.com/ and http://www.barelyevil.com/

I'm biased, but you can get paid from my investment

Mutt · 05-07-2003, 08:24 PM

most of the girls we shoot don't fit that niche but this new girl Ashley does.

send us some skulls and candles

lil2rich4u2 · 05-07-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well.

do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

just curious what everyone thinks

Excelent question!

I wouldnt have the money to promote that niche personally as i think the content is more expensive and limited than say "teen" or even "balloon"

But i was also curious about the niche .... seems like it would be exciting to promote it, i aways imagined it did well since not as many people will push it.

SleazyDream · 05-07-2003, 08:34 PM

why do goths always have to look soo sad?

lil2rich4u2 · 05-07-2003, 08:38 PM

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why do goths always have to look soo sad?

I dont know anything about the niche, but im assuming because its suposed to be "dark" and spooky kind of.

quiet · 05-07-2003, 08:40 PM

out of curiousity, does anyone know who shoots the video for suicide girls (unless do they do it themselves)?

TheFLY · 05-07-2003, 08:46 PM

It's just a fad for kids... Part of the goth life is poverty anyway...

Do you think this guy can afford a $29.95 membership?

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fnet · 05-07-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
out of curiousity, does anyone know who shoots the video for suicide girls (unless do they do it themselves)?

afaik spooky still does it. didya want to talk with him?

quiet · 05-07-2003, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by fnet

afaik spooky still does it. didya want to talk with him?

possibly. does he have a website for his production company?

fnet · 05-07-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

possibly. does he have a website for his production company?

not that i know about- but i don't know him too well. spooky at suicidegirls.com

quiet · 05-07-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by fnet

not that i know about- but i don't know him too well. spooky at suicidegirls.com

cheers

Fletch XXX · 05-07-2003, 09:14 PM

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Carrie · 05-07-2003, 09:28 PM

Mutt - put that girl on a richer background that contrasts with her skin, so that she doesn't seem to fade into it. And give her some nice clothing that dresses up the features she has. All nude she's not that much, but with the right sexy, teasing clothing and the proper background she'd be spanking.

Brujah · 05-07-2003, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well.

do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base?

just curious what everyone thinks

No. Goth doesn't sell. Stay away. Goth = bad.

AmeliaG · 05-07-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Excelent question!

I wouldnt have the money to promote that niche personally as i think the content is more expensive and limited than say "teen" or even "balloon"

But i was also curious about the niche .... seems like it would be exciting to promote it, i aways imagined it did well since not as many people will push it.

Spooky Cash has magazine quality partner content

05-07-2003, 04:50 PM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	how scalable is the goth niche? i know similar questions have been asked before. oh well. do you think a very high quality goth-themed paysite can be scaled up beyond a small membership base? has it become mainstream enough? does general adult traffic convert well enough with the goth niche to grow a large membership base? just curious what everyone thinks

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	nope. if you're talking about large as in close to what u have now. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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05-07-2003, 07:34 PM	#9
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	yeah but realize that there isn't much content out there for goth/punk/alternative/suicidegirls niche - so you're definitely going to be shooting your own content or paying somebody to shoot it. can't get retention out of a gothy design, 20 gothy photosets and then a bunch of the usual plugins. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-07-2003, 08:24 PM	#11
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	most of the girls we shoot don't fit that niche but this new girl Ashley does. send us some skulls and candles __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-07-2003, 08:34 PM	#13
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05-07-2003, 08:40 PM	#15
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	out of curiousity, does anyone know who shoots the video for suicide girls (unless do they do it themselves)?

05-07-2003, 08:46 PM	#16
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	It's just a fad for kids... Part of the goth life is poverty anyway... Do you think this guy can afford a $29.95 membership? <img src="http://home.iprimus.com.au/alchyapple/nickielgy.gif">

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05-07-2003, 09:28 PM	#22
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Mutt - put that girl on a richer background that contrasts with her skin, so that she doesn't seem to fade into it. And give her some nice clothing that dresses up the features she has. All nude she's not that much, but with the right sexy, teasing clothing and the proper background she'd be spanking.