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RayVega · 07-11-2019, 12:37 PM

This is 100% true. I was recently talking to a highway cop in long Island NY. Some cars are fitted with auto license plate readers, that automatically read all the license plates around them searching for expired plates or wanted individuals.

This is not a problem with me, I understand it and it makes sense. BUT did you know they database every single hit with a GPS location and keep it saved indefinitely? The cop I was talking too could enter my plate into the system and show me a map of every place I passed a police car with a time stamp for the past four years. Quickly a pattern between my home and office and paths to several friends houses showed up. They can go in and see patterns of where you go and when, AND there is no warrant necessary like there is with cell phone pings, because they own the data.

i'm just saying privacy is a thing of the past.

2MuchMark · 07-11-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

This is 100% true. I was recently talking to a highway cop in long Island NY. Some cars are fitted with auto license plate readers, that automatically read all the license plates around them searching for expired plates or wanted individuals.

This is not a problem with me, I understand it and it makes sense. BUT did you know they database every single hit with a GPS location and keep it saved indefinitely? The cop I was talking too could enter my plate into the system and show me a map of every place I passed a police car with a time stamp for the past four years. Quickly a pattern between my home and office and paths to several friends houses showed up. They can go in and see patterns of where you go and when, AND there is no warrant necessary like there is with cell phone pings, because they own the data.

i'm just saying privacy is a thing of the past.

When you take a picture with your smartphone, its location is stamped into he meta data of the picture. This is not new.

The cops do not know where you are at any given time, but your cellphone provider does, because your phone knows where you are.

Here's an extra titbit: Did you know that your desktop and laptop computer knows where it is too? When you go to Google and look up a store nearby or say "Where is there a McDonalds near me", it asks if it can use your location. But how does it know where you are? It knows because your home wifi router, even though access to it from others is blocked, is still pinged by the smartphones of people near you, and that ping includes their GPS data. Your browser figures out where you are in this way.

1984 had nothing on 2019.

RayVega · 07-11-2019, 12:48 PM

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When you take a picture with your smartphone, its location is

1984 had nothing on 2019.

100% true, but the issue I have with the plate readers is that the police themselves already have the data, they create the database, they do not have to get it from a private company, which usually requires a judge to sign off unless there are exigent circumstances.

frightening stuff.

brassmonkey · 07-11-2019, 12:58 PM

Where have you been??? they started testing 5 or 6 years ago! a lady here in tempe went to pick up her boyfriend from jail in a stolen car

they have plate scanners in tempe now which alerted police and she was arrested.

Rochard · 07-11-2019, 01:00 PM

I live in small town, 50k people; At any given time there is two or three police officers on duty. We have these license plate readers. I am all for them. When the police pull behind someone they automatically read the plates and know if it's a local citizen or a criminal. Then they know who to pull over.

The police are tracking you? LOL. Your fucking cell phone tracks you. Your car tracks you.

RayVega · 07-11-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I live in small town, 50k people; At any given time there is two or three police officers on duty. We have these license plate readers. I am all for them. When the police pull behind someone they automatically read the plates and know if it's a local citizen or a criminal. Then they know who to pull over.

The police are tracking you? LOL. Your fucking cell phone tracks you. Your car tracks you.

As I said i am 100% ok with them reading plates to find a stolen car or expired tags...If you are driving a stolen car you SHOULD be picked up and taken off the road, what is crazy to me is the long term databasing of the daily whereabouts of innocent citizens. You see the difference?

crockett · 07-11-2019, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

This is 100% true. I was recently talking to a highway cop in long Island NY. Some cars are fitted with auto license plate readers, that automatically read all the license plates around them searching for expired plates or wanted individuals.

This is not a problem with me, I understand it and it makes sense. BUT did you know they database every single hit with a GPS location and keep it saved indefinitely? The cop I was talking too could enter my plate into the system and show me a map of every place I passed a police car with a time stamp for the past four years. Quickly a pattern between my home and office and paths to several friends houses showed up. They can go in and see patterns of where you go and when, AND there is no warrant necessary like there is with cell phone pings, because they own the data.

i'm just saying privacy is a thing of the past.

Yes I 100% knew this and I've posted about this stuff before and it pisses me the fuck off. It's much worse than you think though.. If you drive around the country like I do, you will see they are putting up license plate readers at exits and on ramps on all the major highways combined with cameras to take a snap shot of the driver/people in the car.

Added to this they are putting "traffic" cameras every mile or two up and down the interstates in many states. They have this shit all over already in Georgia, FL, TX and many other states.. They are already all over I10, I75, I95 ect..

On top of this it's much worse when you go down the rabbit hole of police and the military having "stingray" cell phone towers where they are tracking every person in range of that tower with out a warrant. They have them around all the military bases now and in many large cities. They are all over FL now because the Developer of them is here in FL called Harris Corp. They are fucking giving these systems to the cops so they get used to using them to create a market..

These things are 100% a violation of your rights and every time it's been found that someone was caught using a stingray system with out a warrant they throw the case out. Yet cops still use these illegal systems daily they instead try to hide the fact they used it.

Also as far as licence plate readers, back when I was traveling in my van I was out in Colorado for a while and worked at a place in Highlands Ranch. Wasn't a lot of place to hide the Westy there so a lot of times I'd overnight at the walmart because it was 3 miles from the place I worked.

Every fucking morning a cop would drive through the walmart parking lot with one of those cameras reading people's license plates. They were doing it on private fucking property not even on public roads..

brassmonkey · 07-11-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

As I said i am 100% ok with them reading plates to find a stolen car or expired tags...If you are driving a stolen car you SHOULD be picked up and taken off the road, what is crazy to me is the long term databasing of the daily whereabouts of innocent citizens. You see the difference?

well you are really not going to like this...

around the same time mesa,az was testing a device to scan your car and see inside without opening it.

Matt 26z · 07-11-2019, 01:50 PM

I don't have any problem with the cops reading my license plate. I'm not an illegal beaner.

RayVega · 07-11-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I don't have any problem with the cops reading my license plate. I'm not an illegal beaner.

brassmonkey · 07-11-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

you know who he's talking about?

crockett · 07-11-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you know who he's talking about?

Escorpio?

Rochard · 07-11-2019, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

As I said i am 100% ok with them reading plates to find a stolen car or expired tags...If you are driving a stolen car you SHOULD be picked up and taken off the road, what is crazy to me is the long term databasing of the daily whereabouts of innocent citizens. You see the difference?

Here is the thing... Some people live in fear of the police. Others... Spent their Sunday afternoons biking with the cheif of police.

crockett · 07-11-2019, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Here is the thing... Some people live in fear of the police. Others... Spent their Sunday afternoons biking with the cheif of police.

So you aren't scared of the police.. What if we change it to local govt is using drones to monitor your back yard to make sure you dont do anything illegal or with out a permit.

The ATF will now track every forum post you make online on gun forums and will keep records of all ammo and guns, gun parts you buy.

BLM will now require access to your property at any time to make sure you aren't doing anything illegal..

FBI will now track all your online activities and everything you buy will be referred to the IRS and to your state govt to make sure you are paying proper taxes..

The point I'm getting at is you give them a inch and they take 5ft. You might be ok with it right up until their system gets hacked and all the records end up on the black market and suddenly your insurance rates skyrocket because your insurance company thinks you drive too much..

Or you get targeted for this reason or that. That's a lot of data that can be very powerful in the wrong hands even if you do nothing wrong.

VRPdommy · 07-11-2019, 03:07 PM

Locals have been doing it in my area for at least 5 years.
I don't have a issue with it generally. But I do have a problem with the security of the data accuired that has no purpose to them at the time.
Leaving the question... how others can benefit from the data if it were hacked.

Now I can only visualize a few small things at this point but the times are a changing.
Used in conjunction with other data at a data farm, who knows what contorted minds will profit from.

So there needs to be some explicit rules as to how long it can be saved and what it can be used for.
I say that knowing that the court generally rules that anything you do in public places 'CAN BE' public information. But this has some very interesting twists and I could be a bit more vocal on the issue, but will not at this time.

Facial recognition provokes even higher issues and it is alive and well in places you never would expect it. So you are being tracked in public places as a person, not just in a car where you can not tell who is really driving it.
Since I dabble in the tech, I may track some politicians and/or police around town to force a point at the right time.

Better get use to it as it will get much worse before anyone really realizes how much it is being used and how many unknown purposes it will have in the future.
And nobody is yelling yet and I doubt they will till they find out that it is being used widely already.

bronco67 · 07-11-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

This is 100% true. I was recently talking to a highway cop in long Island NY. Some cars are fitted with auto license plate readers, that automatically read all the license plates around them searching for expired plates or wanted individuals.

This is not a problem with me, I understand it and it makes sense. BUT did you know they database every single hit with a GPS location and keep it saved indefinitely? The cop I was talking too could enter my plate into the system and show me a map of every place I passed a police car with a time stamp for the past four years. Quickly a pattern between my home and office and paths to several friends houses showed up. They can go in and see patterns of where you go and when, AND there is no warrant necessary like there is with cell phone pings, because they own the data.

i'm just saying privacy is a thing of the past.

and I should care about this....why? I'm not doing anything I should be worried about.

Also, it's pretty narcissistic to think you're being watched by the man because they give a shit about what you're doing and are just waiting for the right moment to jump out of the bushes and throw in a deep dark dungeon.

crockett · 07-11-2019, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

and I should care about this....why? I'm not doing anything I should be worried about.

Also, it's pretty narcissistic to think you're being watched by the man because they give a shit about what you're doing and are just waiting for the right moment to jump out of the bushes and throw in a deep dark dungeon.

You probably haven't been beat up by the cops so why worry about police brutality? It doesn't affect you right?

CaptainHowdy · 07-11-2019, 03:14 PM

I‛m too boring to be tracked . . .

ilnjscb · 07-11-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

So you aren't scared of the police.. What if we change it to local govt is using drones to monitor your back yard to make sure you dont do anything illegal or with out a permit.

The ATF will now track every forum post you make online on gun forums and will keep records of all ammo and guns, gun parts you buy.

BLM will now require access to your property at any time to make sure you aren't doing anything illegal..

FBI will now track all your online activities and everything you buy will be referred to the IRS and to your state govt to make sure you are paying proper taxes..

The point I'm getting at is you give them a inch and they take 5ft. You might be ok with it right up until their system gets hacked and all the records end up on the black market and suddenly your insurance rates skyrocket because your insurance company thinks you drive too much..

Or you get targeted for this reason or that. That's a lot of data that can be very powerful in the wrong hands even if you do nothing wrong.

Exactly - this shit is waaaaay out of hand. Rochard, you hate Trump, right? What if an even worse president gets elected? In 5 minutes you'd go from "I'm a big man" to arrested. It has happened all over the world. You'll talk all about how that could never happen to you, but it could easily.

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I don't have any problem with the cops reading my license plate. I'm not an illegal beaner.

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VRPdommy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 11,818	Locals have been doing it in my area for at least 5 years. I don't have a issue with it generally. But I do have a problem with the security of the data accuired that has no purpose to them at the time. Leaving the question... how others can benefit from the data if it were hacked. Now I can only visualize a few small things at this point but the times are a changing. Used in conjunction with other data at a data farm, who knows what contorted minds will profit from. So there needs to be some explicit rules as to how long it can be saved and what it can be used for. I say that knowing that the court generally rules that anything you do in public places 'CAN BE' public information. But this has some very interesting twists and I could be a bit more vocal on the issue, but will not at this time. Facial recognition provokes even higher issues and it is alive and well in places you never would expect it. So you are being tracked in public places as a person, not just in a car where you can not tell who is really driving it. Since I dabble in the tech, I may track some politicians and/or police around town to force a point at the right time. Better get use to it as it will get much worse before anyone really realizes how much it is being used and how many unknown purposes it will have in the future. And nobody is yelling yet and I doubt they will till they find out that it is being used widely already.