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eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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'ON MY TIME'

Another good line from that Bosom Buddies Billy Joel thing.

'You can speak your mind, but NOT ON MY TIME.'

;)


LOL.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:30 AM

"WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US" - "WITH US OR AGAINST US"

Means a lot more than a war on terror.

FATPad 05-06-2003 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Dude....i didnt say that at all. Implications of actions are sometimes more explicitly detremental then the point of the action in the first place.

This suspension is an attack on diversity - the minor consequences to the radio station (complaints by the audience, possible advertiser pullout) DOES NOT OUTWEIGH the broader outcome of what is rapidly becoming a country with one very white, very christian attitude problem.

No. You're trying to make something out of nothing.

Boss: Don't play Dixie Chicks...the people listening to this station won't like it.

Employee: :321GFY I'll play what I want.

Boss: Take a few days off. You're suspended.

Nothing. Just because you want it to be an attack on diversity, freedom of speech, and the ability to think for yourself, does not make it so.

Write to the station owner and tell him you want the two DJ's back.

eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Oh shit, are you saying that there are alternative radio stations? And maybe even alternative music sources? No way man!

Fuck man I didn't realize it but over 11,000 commercial radio and t.v. stations in the US.

UnseenWorld 05-06-2003 11:33 AM

If "freedom of the press belongs to the person with the press," then "freedom of speech (on the radio) belongs to the person who owns the radio station.

UnseenWorld 05-06-2003 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


lol...sure he does.

i guess you dont understand the wider implications?

I understand the "wider implications" of employees disobeying direct orders. I think the ban is stupid, but employers have the right to act stupidly and take the consequences without interference from employees.

rooster 05-06-2003 11:36 AM

"The Media is owned by the people who put Bush into power and they will not hear a word against him."


When did jews become conservatives. I must have been in a coma or something.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


Fuck man I didn't realize it but over 11,000 commercial radio and t.v. stations in the US.

Mr Popup gets his thoughts and ideas from a GOVERNMENT OWNED TV station man, pay him no mind.

If he wants to look at Freedom of Speech, he neednt look past the tv remote of his own commonwealth.

At least we have commercial radio that CAN play what they want, and not be controlled.

;)

ADL Colin 05-06-2003 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


This suspension is an attack on diversity - the minor consequences to the radio station (complaints by the audience, possible advertiser pullout) DOES NOT OUTWEIGH the broader outcome of what is rapidly becoming a country with one very white, very christian attitude problem.

Oh, please. Some of my best friends are white and they're not bad at all. What do you have against white people?

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Mr Popup gets his thoughts and ideas from a GOVERNMENT OWNED TV station man, pay him no mind.

If he wants to look at Freedom of Speech, he neednt look past the tv remote of his own commonwealth.

At least we have commercial radio that CAN play what they want, and not be controlled.

;)

And Fletch XXX gets all his ideas from record labels - or did you think those lyrics were original? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude....i dont even watch tv....'cept for one horrible immature vice.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


Fuck man I didn't realize it but over 11,000 commercial radio and t.v. stations in the US.

owned by 6 companies...with little room for alternative voices.

or havent you noticed that entertainment has got really REALLY bad in the last few years?

Its because they dont have room for creativity (which is in part inspired by diversity and oppression) within the legal, corporate, bottom-line accounting structure of these giant oligarchies.

http://www.mediachannel.org/images/m...s-1200X849.jpg

LeeNoga 05-06-2003 11:47 AM

How long folk gonna punish the Dixie Chicks? What she did was nothing compared to that dude during the oscars acceptance speech.

They did a concert here in Orlando last week and had to take some extra security measures due to the resentment.

CigarMan 05-06-2003 11:48 AM

First post here but I've read the board since it opened. I can't believe what an idiot MrPopup is. This board does not have total free speech. Start bashing Lensman, his programs, etc. and see how fast you get banned.

Same goes for any business entity. Go to work with a tshirt that says I hate ******s on it and see how fast you get sent home. I wouldn't want that in my office because my employees represent me. As offensive as I find that statement you are free to wear that shirt in public. We DO have free speech but it is not absolute as to where and when you can make your statements.

If the radio station said don't play their music they shouldn't have played it. They have that right. The DJ's if they didn't agree are free to seek employment elsewhere if it's that important to them. I had never heard of the dixie chicks before this flap but I'm not that big of a music fan so all this BS might have actually been good for them.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by CigarMan
First post here but I've read the board since it opened. I can't believe what an idiot MrPopup is. This board does not have total free speech. Start bashing Lensman, his programs, etc. and see how fast you get banned.

Same goes for any business entity. Go to work with a tshirt that says I hate ******s on it and see how fast you get sent home. I wouldn't want that in my office because my employees represent me. As offensive as I find that statement you are free to wear that shirt in public. We DO have free speech but it is not absolute as to where and when you can make your statements.

If the radio station said don't play their music they shouldn't have played it. They have that right. The DJ's if they didn't agree are free to seek employment elsewhere if it's that important to them. I had never heard of the dixie chicks before this flap but I'm not that big of a music fan so all this BS might have actually been good for them.

first post here? Go Fuck Yourself!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cherrylula 05-06-2003 11:50 AM

wow you must have a lot of pent up anger ahahaha

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Dude....i dont even watch tv....'cept for one horrible immature vice.

My point was simple.

Everyday you come here and make these types of threads. 'Anti this, your government owns you America' blah blah blash. 'America is 1984' yadda yadda yadda.

Yet, youre TV station is owned by your government, and your medical health care is CONTROLLED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT.

I just find it funny thats all.

Hurry up and decriminalize. Prove to the US you can make your decisions.

I cant wait.!!

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by CigarMan
First post here but I've read the board since it opened. I can't believe what an idiot MrPopup is. This board does not have total free speech. Start bashing Lensman, his programs, etc. and see how fast you get banned.
So youre saying the radio station OWNS the music? Its a country music station with DJs that play music. The DJs played country music. The DJ was suspended.

If that makes you comfortable then I have some Pornosec for you to read.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 11:53 AM

Speaking of Vivendi, did Apple buy it yet.

Cant wait for that either.

apple rules.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...sv/5612346.htm

eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


So youre saying the radio station OWNS the music? Its a country music station with DJs that play music. The DJs played country music. The DJ was suspended.

If that makes you comfortable then I have some Pornosec for you to read.

The DJ's play music from an approved list...sheesh man don't you fucking know anything?

CigarMan 05-06-2003 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


first post here? Go Fuck Yourself!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yep, first post here but I've been in the business since 1997. Thanks for the typical gfy welcome. BTW, I still think you are an idiot, number of posts does not equate to success. :thumbsup

ADL Colin 05-06-2003 11:57 AM

Freedom of speech? Everyone walk outside and yell "I don't believe the holocaust happened". Everyone that doesn't post the rest of the day got arrested.

kenny 05-06-2003 11:57 AM

The Dixie Chicks will probably profit more since all this shit happened. It was a conspiracy by the Dixie Chicks to launch a free mass marketing campaign. Now everyone knows about the Dixie Chicks. Even if people buy the album to burn it, they making sales :1orglaugh

MrPopup 05-06-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Hurry up and decriminalize. Prove to the US you can make your decisions.


I agee with your points, Canadians are mostly whiners whilst Americans are "doers"......

If they do decriminalize, you can bet your last Corona that a firewall bigger than the us-mexican border will materialize faster than you can say "John Walters"

CigarMan 05-06-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


So youre saying the radio station OWNS the music? Its a country music station with DJs that play music. The DJs played country music. The DJ was suspended.

If that makes you comfortable then I have some Pornosec for you to read.

No, they don't "own" the music but they do have control over what will be played and what won't be. As a DJ you are an employee, your employer has the complete right of telling you what you can play and what you can't. It's not a difficult concept to grasp except for you.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 12:00 PM

'JOHANNESBURG, March 9 (AFP) - A South African radio presenter has been suspended from his job after making a series of insulting remarks about the Sri Lanka team following their dramatic tie which knocked the hosts out of the World Cup.'

http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/we....RagE_DM9.html

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'DJ Suspended for Kidnap Remark

(2002-07-29) California. (AP) - A San Jose radio personality was suspended after joking about the kidnapping of a 7-year-old Philadelphia girl who escaped her kidnappers by chewing through duct tape.'

http://deejaypromocom.nexpoint.net/news.asp?newsid=218

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'PHOENIX -- A radio station suspended the disc jockey who called Darryl Kile's widow in an on-air prank and asked if she had a date to Thursday's playoff game.


The incident enraged St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa and prompted apologies from the radio station and the Arizona Diamondbacks.'

http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2002/...3/1440987.html

DJs are suspended and banned all the time.

Mr Popup sees only the ones that make for good 'AMERICA IS 1984' threads.

most of the djs are suspended for sports comments.

cant DJs have sports opinions Mr Pop up?

get over it.

private owned stations have bosses and they can do what they want and have the right to do so regarding what they play and what can or cannot be said during broadcasts.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by CigarMan


Yep, first post here but I've been in the business since 1997. Thanks for the typical gfy welcome. BTW, I still think you are an idiot, number of posts does not equate to success. :thumbsup

I know that...it equals a big dick. which is why you have a couple of little posts and i have lots of long thick posts perfect for plastic replica building.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:02 PM

Fletch XXX: <b>"cant DJs have sports opinions Mr Pop up?

get over it.

private opwned bosses can do what they want and have the right to do so. "</b>

But those opinions don't do greater harm when they are squashed in such a bullshit way. For someone who calls himself a fan of music, you sure dont understand the point of it do you?

eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
For someone who calls himself a fan of music, you sure dont understand the point of it do you?
No, what is apparent here is you don't understand the difference between this and real free speech issues.

CigarMan 05-06-2003 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


I know that...it equals a big dick. which is why you have a couple of little posts and i have lots of long thick posts perfect for plastic replica building.

I hope you go far with your big dick, I'm more happy with money but whatever floats your boat is fine with me. :)

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


No, what is apparent here is you don't understand the difference between this and real free speech issues.

work at a radio station as a "dj" (laughable that they are even called that now) and maybe youll understand a shred of the indignity this means to those two djs.

dude....just for a second...step back and without saying "owner has a right blah blah blah" THINK ABOUT IT...the media does still have an obligation to serve the public good WHICH IS WHY WE (UNDER THE CRTC AND FCC) GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO USE OUR AIRWAVES.

it is beyond stupid what this radio station owner did.

FATPad 05-06-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


work at a radio station as a "dj" (laughable that they are even called that now) and maybe youll understand a shred of the indignity this means to those two djs.

HAHAHA

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by CigarMan


I hope you go far with your big dick, I'm more happy with money but whatever floats your boat is fine with me. :)

I dont need to go far, your girl cums to me.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


No, what is apparent here is you don't understand the difference between this and real free speech issues.

In looking up more info on Canada radio I found this.

Funny little quote about how vote counts are withheld from certain parts of canada during voting. It doesnt really apply, but I can only imagine if they tried to hold election counts for parts of this country during elections so the opther half cant see how the polls are going.

hahaha

'As you probably know, every election there is a gag order which keeps Western Canada from knowing how the voting is going in Eastern Canada. This is because Elections Canada doesn't think Westerners can handle knowing how the election is going in the East before they vote.'

http://www.auracom.com/~tsherr/feder...ultscanada.htm

funny.

eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


work at a radio station as a "dj" (laughable that they are even called that now) and maybe youll understand a shred of the indignity this means to those two djs.

dude....just for a second...step back and without saying "owner has a right blah blah blah" THINK ABOUT IT...the media does still have an obligation to serve the public good WHICH IS WHY WE (UNDER THE CRTC AND FCC) GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO USE OUR AIRWAVES.

it is beyond stupid what this radio station owner did.


#1 I spent 7 years managing for Taco Bell...do that then come and talk to be about indignity.

#2 Show me how playing Dixie Chicks is for the "public good."

#3 I think banning any music that is relevant to the niche as long as it's something that wouldn't get them into hot trouble with the FCC is stupid...HOWEVER. What is more stupid is disobeying your employer's wishes.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


funny.

Fletch, you do it in America too...Which is why the election results are staggered.

eroswebmaster 05-06-2003 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


In looking up more info on Canada radio I found this.

Funny little quote about how vote counts are withheld from certain parts of canada during voting. It doesnt really apply, but I can only imagine if they tried to hold election counts for parts of this country during elections so the opther half cant see how the polls are going.

hahaha

'As you probably know, every election there is a gag order which keeps Western Canada from knowing how the voting is going in Eastern Canada. This is because Elections Canada doesn't think Westerners can handle knowing how the election is going in the East before they vote.'

http://www.auracom.com/~tsherr/feder...ultscanada.htm

funny.


LOL

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

HOWEVER. What is more stupid is disobeying your employer's wishes.

Ultimately, you would be correct if it were any other issue BUT radio or tv. The airwaves belong to the citizenry...we simply allow companies to use them...

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


work at a radio station as a "dj" ( and maybe youll understand a shred of the indignity this means to those two djs.


Where have you worked?

I know plenty of people in the broadcasting business.

MrPopup 05-06-2003 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Where have you worked?

I know plenty of people in the broadcasting business.

lol...swapping reel-to-reels ten million miles from where you are.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2003 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Fletch, you do it in America too...Which is why the election results are staggered.

Show me a quote rsembling what was said about canada there about the US.

I want to see something like this though.

'As you probably know, every election there is a gag order which keeps Northern United States from knowing how the voting is going in Southern united States. This is because The American gestapo doesn't think Northerners can handle knowing how the election is going in the South before they vote.'

I doubt it.


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