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Old 05-05-2003, 11:46 AM   #1
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Why Canada is better than the USA

I wrote one letter to Canada's Prime Minister... They were kind enough to respond....

After about 20 letters to Bush and/or the White House... Still nothing. Fucking Assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Me too... any Canadian companies hiring?
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The wymens and water is the cleanest in the world.

Well, except for the great lakes because of the toxic waste dumped into it by Americans.
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The wymens and water is the cleanest in the world.

Well, except for the great lakes because of the toxic waste dumped into it by Americans.
Yea... we fuck up everything... It's all about the Mean Green $$$$
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Don't leave out health care, low crime rates, clean streets...
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High taxes are another bonus!
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How cold does it get there? Major cities close to the US Border... not way up north.
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i was actually impressed with how clean New York was


Toronto is a nice city, but Vancouver is where it's at
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High taxes are another bonus!
As is prepaid health insurance for ALL citizens....don't get me wrong, I'm a capitalist pig myself, but I can really appreciate socialism for those it benefits
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US President does not write letters.

They pre-empt my favorite soap opera [General Hospital] to show a man landing on an air craft carrier in full flight gear trying to pass off his corn cob up the ass walk, as the gear cramping his package.

Who cares.

But his popularity ratings hit 70%.

Anyhoo, his Dad sent me a letter when I wrote White House years ago, its all template letters with rubber stamp signature.

WOo, that was worth the wait.....

Go Canada.
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As is prepaid health insurance for ALL citizens....don't get me wrong, I'm a capitalist pig myself, but I can really appreciate socialism for those it benefits

sorry, that was the 90's baby. The healthcare system is a complete fuckup thanks to the idiot-savant running this bitch.

You think 18 months on the waiting list for an MRI and other serious diagnostic tests is good?
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As is prepaid health insurance for ALL citizens....don't get me wrong, I'm a capitalist pig myself, but I can really appreciate socialism for those it benefits
Uhh... sure, a global health insurance program for all citizens would be great if it actually worked. I heard their public health insurance system blows ass and you'll only get good health care if you have private insurance. We'll have to ask a Canadian for verification though...
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US President does not write letters.

They pre-empt my favorite soap opera [General Hospital] to show a man landing on an air craft carrier in full flight gear trying to pass off his corn cob up the ass walk, as the gear cramping his package.

Who cares.

But his popularity ratings hit 70%.

Anyhoo, his Dad sent me a letter when I wrote White House years ago, its all template letters with rubber stamp signature.

WOo, that was worth the wait.....

Go Canada.
I would settle for that... shit something... anything. Just shows you how Canada cares and the US could not give a shit. Hell I'm not even Canadian and they still wrote back...

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High taxes are another bonus!
watch as u.s. taxes and canadian taxes even out over the next few years. you forget about the massive spending currently going on down south.
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sorry, that was the 90's baby. The healthcare system is a complete fuckup thanks to the idiot-savant running this bitch.

You think 18 months on the waiting list for an MRI and other serious diagnostic tests is good?
Still better than what I have now... None!
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I would settle for that... shit something... anything. Just shows you how Canada cares and the US could not give a shit. Hell I'm not even Canadian and they still wrote back...

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That's really weird. They have people on staff to handle that stuff. You should have gotten a letter back, I know several people who have. I've never written the President, but have written a few Senators and received a letter back fairly quickly.
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watch as u.s. taxes and canadian taxes even out over the next few years. you forget about the massive spending currently going on down south.
Yea, we have a war to pay for and a country to rebuild.
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Still better than what I have now... None!

heh, when it costs you %38 in income tax and %15 sales tax on everything you buy, you will be worried.
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That's really weird. They have people on staff to handle that stuff. You should have gotten a letter back, I know several people who have. I've never written the President, but have written a few Senators and received a letter back fairly quickly.
I have only written the President and Vice President... I think maybe a couple of Reps from our state... And still, after almost a year.... nothing!
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heh, when it costs you %38 in income tax and %15 sales tax on everything you buy, you will be worried.
Ok, I am at about 23% and 8.?% in sales tax... Pretty fucking close.
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canada seems to be taking the right approach to this. people need to realize that if they want to 'fight' and effective war on drugs you need to treat it like a health care issue, not a criminal one. marijuana won't destroy your life. and if you think it has or know someone who you think it has i say it's bullshit. their life was ruined before weed.
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canada seems to be taking the right approach to this. people need to realize that if they want to 'fight' and effective war on drugs you need to treat it like a health care issue, not a criminal one. marijuana won't destroy your life. and if you think it has or know someone who you think it has i say it's bullshit. their life was ruined before weed.
I hear that.
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Well that sucks with healthcare...I thought you guys up north had that shit wired down...

While living in Denmark I was amazed at the healthcare system...talk about a well oiled machine
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gruffy is right - the medical system is now in tatters. sure it's great if you're a 20 year old kid with little income, who tears up a knee playing hoops, no problem. Waiting lists for scans, operations, etc but you will get good treatment and nobody will ask u for a penny.

It's falling apart at the top end, and for somebody who works hard, pays the ridiculous Canadian taxes, if you get really sick, need the best the medical world can give you - realize that you are getting the equivalent of care that a county hospital in the United States delivers to the poor.

for relatively healthy people it's a great system, abused like no other medical system in the world, people running to the doctor every time they bump their head on a cupboard door or they just 'don't feel good'.
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Well that sucks with healthcare...I thought you guys up north had that shit wired down...

While living in Denmark I was amazed at the healthcare system...talk about a well oiled machine
You lived in Denmark? How did you mamage that? Just a visitor that stayed or actual resident for a while?

I would love to move to Amsterdam. The process looks difficult to become a resident there.
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Vancouver is THE best city I've been to, and i've travelled quite a bit. The closest comparison I found is Austin, TX. Beautiful city, with lots of trees and birds and stuff. Sure, there are bad things. Like the occasional gang violence, shitty health care, high taxes, but to me it's totally worth it. Get this: world-class skiing is 60 minutes from my house, the beach is 10 minutes away. We get about one snowfall a winter in town, and it's gone within a few days. Winter average is about 5C during the day, and summer average is about 22C during the day. How sweet is that? You do grow webbed toes, though.
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for relatively healthy people it's a great system, abused like no other medical system in the world, people running to the doctor every time they bump their head on a cupboard door or they just 'don't feel good'.
But isn't it like that everywhere? A handful of people fuck it up for everyone?
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Uhh... sure, a global health insurance program for all citizens would be great if it actually worked. I heard their public health insurance system blows ass and you'll only get good health care if you have private insurance. We'll have to ask a Canadian for verification though...
There are some problems with the health care system but overall it's a lot better than having to pay for everything that goes wrong withn you. I've heard some major horror stories from US webmasters. The big problem with stuff in Canada is that you have to wait for some things. Mind you I've never had a problem with anything at all and never had to pay a penny for anything, so in my books global health insurance is awesome.
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canada seems to be taking the right approach to this. people need to realize that if they want to 'fight' and effective war on drugs you need to treat it like a health care issue, not a criminal one. marijuana won't destroy your life. and if you think it has or know someone who you think it has i say it's bullshit. their life was ruined before weed.

I know some people who managed to do it.. but if it wasn't being a fucking wicked chronic it would have been something else (booze, etc etc).

Cops aren't liking the idea because their convictions for drug offenses will go down and they will have to start going after real drug problems.

They want the nice conviction records they have to start taking out crack / coke dealers. Totally different game then just looking up hydro records and emptying out an abandoned grow house.
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gruffy is right - the medical system is now in tatters. sure it's great if you're a 20 year old kid with little income, who tears up a knee playing hoops, no problem. Waiting lists for scans, operations, etc but you will get good treatment and nobody will ask u for a penny.

It's falling apart at the top end, and for somebody who works hard, pays the ridiculous Canadian taxes, if you get really sick, need the best the medical world can give you - realize that you are getting the equivalent of care that a county hospital in the United States delivers to the poor.

for relatively healthy people it's a great system, abused like no other medical system in the world, people running to the doctor every time they bump their head on a cupboard door or they just 'don't feel good'.
That's just not true. Both my parents are seniors and they have quite a few major health problems and they receive excellent care. If they were in the US they'd probably have to sell their house to get the care they get up here.
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They want the nice conviction records they have to start taking out crack / coke dealers. Totally different game then just looking up hydro records and emptying out an abandoned grow house.
They sound as lazy as our cops
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Bah.. lots of US cops love big take downs. Lots of killing and shooting to be had on a drug bust.

Here if they pull their weapon out it's a half hour of paperwork.
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Bah.. lots of US cops love big take downs. Lots of killing and shooting to be had on a drug bust.

Here if they pull their weapon out it's a half hour of paperwork.
That is true... but around here, I get hassled for no reason what - so - ever.... Makes me wonder if they do not have anything better to do.
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You lived in Denmark? How did you mamage that? Just a visitor that stayed or actual resident for a while?

I would love to move to Amsterdam. The process looks difficult to become a resident there.
Yeah I lived there for about 3 years....it was easy for me though, I married a dane
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Yeah I lived there for about 3 years....it was easy for me though, I married a dane
Lucky... I don't think my G/F would like it if I did that. Although, she does not want to move there so... Might be worth looking into
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The US Ambassador to Canada has recently issued a thinly veiled threat that if Canada decriminalizes pot, there will be economic reprecussians to the country by the US Gov't. They are angry at the direction we are headed in.
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Of course they are... that means all the propaganda they spit at us on TV will mean nothing. Make them look like liars. As I told the PM of Canada... they have my 100% support.

Bush and the US. Let them read and throw me out I don't give a fuck... Bush You There? Up Yours!
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It about 30 feet across the street from my place here in the West End. I am headed there in a minute to catch some sun (although it is a bit windy but miss the sun too much to pass this day up).
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I sure wont spend any tourism dollars there after their behavior this year.
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It about 30 feet across the street from my place here in the West End. I am headed there in a minute to catch some sun (although it is a bit windy but miss the sun too much to pass this day up).
Excellent... Have a good one. I used to live in Venice California... Westminister and Speedway.... Beach was about 300 yards from my place, I miss that. No beach in the Arizona Desert.
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Talk about have to wait in line for your health care, they even postpone births! I'd rather pay for my surgery than have to wait in line and be in pain because the government controls my medical health care.

fuck that.

?A Canadian can purchase a CAT scan for his or her pet, but they can?t purchase a PET scan for themselves,? said Pipes, who shows how lengthy delays for surgery in Canada leave patients desperate and often in pain.

Lessons from the North charts how waiting times from general practitioner to treatment have increased by seven weeks, from 9.3 weeks in 1993 to 16.2 weeks in 2000-01. ?One Ottawa hospital has even rationed the delivery of babies,? said Pipes.'

rationing the delivery of babies?

http://www.pacificresearch.org/press..._02-10-31.html
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