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Brujah 05-06-2003 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? :Graucho

XM

We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that :)

XM 05-06-2003 01:50 AM

OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

sacX 05-06-2003 01:50 AM

I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google :)

stocktrader23 05-06-2003 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that :)

You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google :)

This was already mentioned above and answered :P

lawked 05-06-2003 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

Yes Sir!

Squad, attention.

Blue 42, blue 42, hut hut..

When you email for a link cause the domain has high PR.. won't
be a problem, I'll add you ;)

:thumbsup GoogleGuy

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

agreed

but some people cant think beyond the box :1orglaugh

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

Yes.

Sloane 05-06-2003 01:58 AM

95% of my drops have lost PR, trying to find a pattern with the remainding 5% as to why they survived.

stocktrader23 05-06-2003 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

This is exactly why I ignored every "stop buying domains because google will punish them" thread and started picking them up. I started making money the day my first one propogated and I plan to buy thousands more.


DON'T BUY EXPIRED DOMAINS! GOOGLE WILL KILL YOU!

nuclei 05-06-2003 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


This is exactly why I ignored every "stop buying domains because google will punish them" thread and started picking them up. I started making money the day my first one propogated and I plan to buy thousands more.


DON'T BUY EXPIRED DOMAINS! GOOGLE WILL KILL YOU!


good for you stocktrader :1orglaugh

sacX 05-06-2003 02:03 AM

I resell a lot of the expired domains I pick up.. I'm not really that hardnosed at negotiating.. and my average price would in the vicinity of about $200..

I know some people are a lot more aggressive and won't accept bids less than $1500.. which I've wondered is to correlate nicely with the cost of going to WIPO..

Anyone willing to share approach on reselling expired domains? I mean obviously there are a lot of factors to decide upon, but within that there is a strategy.. like starting very high? or asking for them to offer? It's a game in itself.

nuclei 05-06-2003 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
I resell a lot of the expired domains I pick up.. I'm not really that hardnosed at negotiating.. and my average price would in the vicinity of about $200..

I know some people are a lot more aggressive and won't accept bids less than $1500.. which I've wondered is to correlate nicely with the cost of going to WIPO..

Anyone willing to share approach on reselling expired domains? I mean obviously there are a lot of factors to decide upon, but within that there is a strategy.. like starting very high? or asking for them to offer? It's a game in itself.

sacX there are a number of domain brokers who list domains and what people are asking. look around and compare. It is really a matter of just how good the domain is. Some really odd domains you would never think would be worth shit sell for thousands because it just happened to fit someone.

SEGuru 05-06-2003 02:22 AM

There is no question that Google will troll to keep their DB clean, but again...if you are able to nab them prior to a re-index...you are good.

Google needs relevant domains, and you must get some relevant conetnt on it asap with its own unique IP. Give it every chance in the world to the spider as seemingly just having moved on the server , an IP change and/or a facelift.

But keep it relevant.

Nothing wrong with refering to Wayback (archives) to see what it used to look like. In fact, analyze the KW densities of that old page and get in the ball park.

Make sense?

Brujah 05-06-2003 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SEGuru
There is no question that Google will troll to keep their DB clean, but again...if you are able to nab them prior to a re-index...you are good.

Google needs relevant domains, and you must get some relevant conetnt on it asap with its own unique IP. Give it every chance in the world to the spider as seemingly just having moved on the server , an IP change and/or a facelift.

But keep it relevant.

Nothing wrong with refering to Wayback (archives) to see what it used to look like. In fact, analyze the KW densities of that old page and get in the ball park.

Make sense?

I don't think the relevancy is as imporant but it makes a lot of sense to do it anyway. Less chance of being reported by an observer which is likely how many of them get cleaned up. I don't think a unique IP is important at all. Most of my own share IPs and have not been affected to date. The whole density issue doesn't have as much affect as any other factor in my opinion.

evilpurple 05-06-2003 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by lawked
Yeah I want Google to go down in flames.

Google is getting way too much power, thinking they
own the Internet (they do for now)...

Just as Yahoo and Altavista "owned" the net in terms of providing traffic a few years back. Someone better WILL come along and steal the throne in terms of driving SE traffic. Just be patient :)

Brujah 05-06-2003 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by evilpurple


Just as Yahoo and Altavista "owned" the net in terms of providing traffic a few years back. Someone better WILL come along and steal the throne in terms of driving SE traffic. Just be patient :)

Yep. http://www.nightsurf.com ;)

Tipsy 05-06-2003 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Yep. http://www.nightsurf.com ;)

:1orglaugh

Scary thing is they're getting closer each day - at least as far as porn goes.

Brujah 05-06-2003 03:06 AM

The future.

http://a296.p.f.qz3.net/f/296/2439/3...ore/nslogo.gif

Submit your URL.
http://www.nightsurf.com/submiturl.htm

SEGuru 05-06-2003 01:03 PM

You've gotta be kidding...

Shoot me in the head if thats the future.
Nice dynamic search they had, used to be they'd carry the search query...so if you search for naked dead person sex...they would have a spot in the upper left hand corner that said:

"Live Cams of Naked Dead Person Sex"

I mean for real! I hope thats not the future!

fnet 05-06-2003 04:34 PM

the future looks more like this my little nematodes:

http://www.stumbleupon.com/

Yo Adrian 05-06-2003 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fnet
the future looks more like this my little nematodes:

http://www.stumbleupon.com/

hahaha that's great, it's kinda like a console chain you ask to get into :1orglaugh

Brujah 05-06-2003 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SEGuru
You've gotta be kidding...

Shoot me in the head if thats the future.
Nice dynamic search they had, used to be they'd carry the search query...so if you search for naked dead person sex...they would have a spot in the upper left hand corner that said:

"Live Cams of Naked Dead Person Sex"

I mean for real! I hope thats not the future!

You like that too ? That's the same phrase that prompted me to sign up .. the first time. !!!!


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