Now confirmed Trump forced them to give Ivanka security clearance as well..

[crockett]

Trump once again lied and continues to lie to the American people. Ivanka just like Kushner failed her security background checks and it was recommended that she not be granted security clearances.

Trump involved himself once again to pressure his chief of staff to grant it anyway..


https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/05/pol...ure/index.html


Called it...

[beerptrol]

She's a liar like her dad.

She and her dad have been denying this. Funny how chump hands them out to those who can't pass a security clearance check and wants to strip it from others

[crockett]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

She's a liar like her dad.

She and her dad have been denying this. Funny how chump hands them out to those who can't pass a security clearance check and wants to strip it from others

Its because he's a traitor to this country. He doesn't give a fuck about our country only what he can get for himself.

[Acepimp]

Recommendations. The president doesn't have to do whatever some bureaucrat says.

You're hysterical.

[King Mark]

Trump is the quintessential old school New York hustler.

Could be a good quality, not for being president tho.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Recommendations. The president doesn't have to do whatever some bureaucrat says.

You're hysterical.

Lying is OK with you ......


Good, I will let know Hilary ....

[Acepimp]

You'll have to be more specific. There's no wrongdoing here.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Trump is the quintessential old school New York hustler.

Could be a good quality, not for being president tho.

Good quality for a used car salesman.. Thats all Trump would be without his daddy's money..

[Acepimp]

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

But Crockett's thread title says "Trump forced them.."

Wrong! "Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

Another FALSE Crockett thread easily debunked- by his own article!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

But Crockett's thread title says "Trump forced them.."

Wrong! "Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

Another FALSE Crockett thread easily debunked- by his own article!

You dont seem to understand how things work. There are security people who check them out. If they pass fail it goes to the chief of staff to determine if they stay or go.

In both cases Kushner and Ivanka failed their background checks. The security people (FBI/CIA) both said they shouldn't get cleared.

In both cases the Chief of Staff said no, WH lawyers said no.. Trump then forced them to give the clearance to override everyone else.


If Hillary had won and did this with her daughter are you saying you wouldn't care?

Be honest... because we know how much of a shit fit Republicans had when Chelsea was going to run the Clinton foundation..

[King Mark]

Originally Posted by crockett

You dont seem to understand how things work. There are security people who check them out. If they pass fail it goes to the chief of staff to determine if they stay or go.

In both cases Kushner and Ivanka failed their background checks. The security people (FBI/CIA) both said they shouldn't get cleared.

In both cases the Chief of Staff said no, WH lawyers said no.. Trump then forced them to give the clearance to override everyone else.


If Hillary had won and did this with her daughter are you saying you wouldn't care?

Good question

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by crockett

If Hillary had won and did this with her daughter are you saying you wouldn't care?

Be honest... because we know how much of a shit fit Republicans had when Chelsea was going to run the Clinton foundation..

OF COURSE I would care- She would be completely unqualified to manage a convenience store, much less work in the White House.

Kushner and Ivanka are both very accomplished and totally qualified to work in the administration. Also in case you missed it:

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

OF COURSE I would care- She would be completely unqualified to manage a convenience store, much less work in the White House.

Kushner and Ivanka are both very accomplished and totally qualified to work in the administration. Also in case you missed it:

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

So you admit you are completely biased based on false information..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

OF COURSE I would care- She would be completely unqualified to manage a convenience store, much less work in the White House.

Kushner and Ivanka are both very accomplished and totally qualified to work in the administration. Also in case you missed it:

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

So since you think qualifications are important.. The most recent judge who was nominated by Trump and just confirmed by the US senate to has only tried 4 cases in her entire career to verdict. She's only been practicing law for 9 years and now has a life long govt job as a federal judge.

Is this the experience you support? Is this the "best people"? Her only qualification it seems is the's anti-gay..


"Republicans just advanced the judicial nomination of 36 year-old Allison Jones Rushing for the 4th Circuit (NC). She has practiced law for just 9 years, only tried 4 cases to verdict or judgment in her career (none as lead counsel), and isn’t even a member of the NC bar."

Senator Dick Durbin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...8ae9&tid=sm_rd

[2MuchMark]

Trump supporters are fucking idiots.

[Rochard]

None of these people have foreign policy experience or intelligence experience.... Why do they have the highest level of security clearances?

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

OF COURSE
Kushner and Ivanka are both very accomplished and totally qualified to work in the administration.

Yep Kushner is billions of dollars in debt and Ivanka runs a shoe shop. Great qualifications

[beerptrol]

Trump, Kushner and Ivanka have done nothing but line their pockets and cut taxes for themselves and fellow elite.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

But Crockett's thread title says "Trump forced them.."

Wrong! "Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."

Another FALSE Crockett thread easily debunked- by his own article!

and that trump lied also does not change that to you ?

he lied and he said:

No. I don´t think that I have the authority to do that.
But I wouldn´t. I wouldn´t do it!

so did he lie yes or no ?

[bronco67]

Whatever baby needs to help make those shitty purses and shoes. Daddy will come through. Now give me a handjob. Melania said she has a handache.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Whatever baby needs to help make those shitty purses and shoes. Daddy will come through. Now give me a handjob. Melania said she has a handache.

I thought that company of hers want out of business due to lack of sales?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

You'll have to be more specific. There's no wrongdoing here.

It must be horrible how low one has to lower their ethical standards to continue to find ways to defend Trump.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

It must be horrible how low one has to lower their ethical standards to continue to find ways to defend Trump.

The only ones left defending Trump are the super rich multi millionaires and billionaires ( non of which post here) the russians and the racists are pretty much the only ones defending Trump here. The few that don't fit those 3 categories are extremely low IQ, as is proven by their posts.

[Mr Pheer]

Whats the point in running around in circles complaining about it. He can give a clearance to anyone he wants. Name a President that didn't do dirty shit. Name one that did everything just the way that everyone wanted. Name one that will in the future.

Just one. C'mon, name them.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Whats the point in running around in circles complaining about it. He can give a clearance to anyone he wants. Name a President that didn't do dirty shit. Name one that did everything just the way that everyone wanted. Name one that will in the future.

Just one. C'mon, name them.

Here's the issue with this particular situation.

Yes, every President lies, and does shady shit we likely never even hear about, and many of them use their power for personal gain in some way. There is no questioning that.

However, those Presidents didn't just spend 2 years screaming about Hillary Clinton's emails and how terrible it is that she allowed potentially classified material to get into the hands of those who shouldn't see it, and now we find out he has people in his administration in very powerful positions who can't even pass the background check to get the clearance and yet they are still right in the middle of it handling classified stuff every day and in classified meetings.

Where I grew up we call that hypocrisy.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by kane

Here's the issue with this particular situation.

Yes, every President lies, and does shady shit we likely never even hear about, and many of them use their power for personal gain in some way. There is no questioning that.

However, those Presidents didn't just spend 2 years screaming about Hillary Clinton's emails and how terrible it is that she allowed potentially classified material to get into the hands of those who shouldn't see it, and now we find out he has people in his administration in very powerful positions who can't even pass the background check to get the clearance and yet they are still right in the middle of it handling classified stuff every day and in classified meetings.

Where I grew up we call that hypocrisy.

Every administration has experienced people people with expertise that apply and are not approved for clearance that the president grants approval for.

The difference with Trump is:

1) The applicants denied have no experience

2) The applicants denied are family members

3) One applicant (that we know of so far) lied & omitted contacts & business with adversaries like russia, which is a felony.

[VRPdommy]

Despite the obvious, what bothers me is why, when we knew about this in 2017, it was brushed under the rug.
Is it because the Senate and House commettee's were controlled by the right ?

It was as big a problem then as it is now.

What would get everyone's attention ? If they gave clearance to Bunita, or Obama's grandmother ?

Secrets are going to be for sale for biz deals.
I have seen many more lower level congressmen and senators ousted for far less in just appearance.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Whats the point in running around in circles complaining about it. He can give a clearance to anyone he wants. Name a President that didn't do dirty shit. Name one that did everything just the way that everyone wanted. Name one that will in the future.

Just one. C'mon, name them.

Trump can give clearance to anyone he wants. However, the only reason that a President should do this is when there is extraordinary circumstances.

In this case we have the dumb leading the blind. The President is a failed businessman and former game show host and he is giving the highest security clearance to his daughter who's only claim to fame is she ran a clothing and shoe company that she had to close because she was ripping off other people's designs, and his son-in-law that is billions of dollars in debt.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Recommendations. The president doesn't have to do whatever some bureaucrat says.

You're hysterical.

But lying to you and dismissing experts doing their jobs that you pay for are ok with you. Got it.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Whats the point in running around in circles complaining about it. He can give a clearance to anyone he wants. Name a President that didn't do dirty shit. Name one that did everything just the way that everyone wanted. Name one that will in the future.

Just one. C'mon, name them.

Honest question for you. Forget Ivanka for a second and lets just talk about Jared. Let's say, just for fun, that he was corrupted somehow. Pick your poison.

Now lets say that the CIA knew he had been corrupted. And the CIA tells Trump that Jared should not get a security clearance because he might share it with someone and undermine US national security. Just saying this as an example.

So now: Should Trump ignore that advice and give Jared security clearance anyway, despite the risk or problems it might cause?

Or should Trump accept that experts in security, are telling him that this is a bad idea and not do it?

[TheSquealer]

LOL @ obsessed, emotionally unwell foreigners talking about shit that is 100% none of their business

[The Truth Hurts]

also now confirmed: nobody cares.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

also now confirmed: nobody cares.

of course he's not black so it's not a big deal...

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally Posted by crockett

of course he's not black so it's not a big deal...

I understand that people with your particular affliction are going to lose your shit over literally anything trump does or doesn’t do, but this was well within his authority to do, so get the fuck over it and move onto your next regularly scheduled fake outrage.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

of course he's not black so it's not a big deal...

He lied to the FBI he's fucked now. He's going to be a convicted felon just like his father.

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

LOL @ obsessed, emotionally unwell foreigners talking about shit that is 100% none of their business

Yea... Yea... you tell'm...

What are we doing in Syria, Iraq, Columbia, South Korea, japan, Germany, Philippines, Etc, Etc...

Chances are we are up to something in their 'nun ya biz' country.

Yea... Yea... foreigners should mind their own biz !

...LOL...

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

It must be horrible how low one has to lower their ethical standards to continue to find ways to defend Trump.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

But lying to you and dismissing experts doing their jobs that you pay for are ok with you. Got it.

No clue what you guys are referring to. I am simply defending truth and facts.

ONCE AGAIN:

Article states: "While Trump has the legal authority to grant clearances.."


You guys seem hysterical. I recommend some medicinal chronic.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

LOL @ obsessed, emotionally unwell foreigners talking about shit that is 100% none of their business

Can we agree that we foreigners stop bothering once daddy stops sending his shoe design stealing daughter with a bogus security clearance as an official to things like the Munich Security Conference?

Until then: Tough luck.

[VRPdommy]

Embassy Staffers Say Jared Kushner Shut Them Out of Saudi Meetings

https://www.thedailybeast.com/embass...saudi-meetings



Trump is covering up for MBS. The Senate must push for accountability.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...?noredirect=on

[bronco67]

Is there really anyone here who thinks a purse designer should be able to access all top secret materials?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Is there really anyone here who thinks a purse designer should be able to access all top secret materials?

That's not how it works. If it was, I never would have got the clearance I held in the Army.

Clearances aren't given for what you've done in the past, they are given so you can move into (and maintain) a new position.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So now: Should Trump ignore that advice and give Jared security clearance anyway, despite the risk or problems it might cause?

Or should Trump accept that experts in security, are telling him that this is a bad idea and not do it?

It's not up to me to say what he should do. It was his prerogative. I don't know all the details and I'm pretty sure that nobody else does either.