legal question about pics - GoFuckYourself.com

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 02:29 PM

ok.. i found my pic listed on this phone sex site. the pic was taken by a photographer and i am in the porcess of finding out if he sold the pic to the said webmaster....now my beef is with the false information that could possibly have my children taken away from me.

they have my pic with a different name (no probleml), you click on my name and you get a whole little page on my so called life (all false) in in they say i like mommy role play and that my youngest lover is 12..WTF! Now the wierdo mommy little boy shit is enough to make me sick let alone true.....so do i have rights for them not to publish pedophilic statements supposed made by "my picture"?

gruffy · 05-03-2003, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
they have my pic with a different name (no probleml), you click on my name and you get a whole little page on my so called life (all false) in in they say i like mommy role play and that my youngest lover is 12..WTF! Now the wierdo mommy little boy shit is enough to make me sick let alone true.....so do i have rights for them not to publish pedophilic statements supposed made by "my picture"?

SUE SUE SUE SUE

Wow.. how fucking easy is this case?

Fletch XXX · 05-03-2003, 02:36 PM

Ouch, the 12 year old thing sucks.

HungSolo · 05-03-2003, 02:36 PM

How would anyone else know it was you in the pic? Obviously they shouldn't be making text about KP, but are people really gonna recognize that it's you and assume the story is true, but the name isn't?

SGS · 05-03-2003, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
ok.. i found my pic listed on this phone sex site. the pic was taken by a photographer and i am in the porcess of finding out if he sold the pic to the said webmaster....now my beef is with the false information that could possibly have my children taken away from me.

they have my pic with a different name (no probleml), you click on my name and you get a whole little page on my so called life (all false) in in they say i like mommy role play and that my youngest lover is 12..WTF! Now the wierdo mommy little boy shit is enough to make me sick let alone true.....so do i have rights for them not to publish pedophilic statements supposed made by "my picture"?

You need to get a lawyer onto this straight away!

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 02:41 PM

shitty thing is , i believe they bought the pics legally..

I need a good lawyer to look into this for me for sure...makes me want to break the baseball bat out on these minnesota sick fucks.

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this is the info i got on them.. so far no reply to take the comments off..

SO IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD ASSLICKER.. SPEAK NOW !

detoxed · 05-03-2003, 02:43 PM

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo
How would anyone else know it was you in the pic? Obviously they shouldn't be making text about KP, but are people really gonna recognize that it's you and assume the story is true, but the name isn't?

hung, i have my own site and have been on the web for 5 years... the way i found out was people recognizing me and coming to tell me...

HungSolo · 05-03-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

hung, i have my own site and have been on the web for 5 years... the way i found out was people recognizing me and coming to tell me...

ahh. damn, that sure could be libel.

natkejs · 05-03-2003, 03:02 PM

Shit man you'll get rich by suing them for that.

Generally the photographer has rights to use a picture, as well as the person(s) in the picture.
However what you're describing is in no way legal, unless they're based in some fucked up country that's so screwed on drugs they haven't come around to creating laws yet.

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 03:06 PM

read the contract you signed with whoever sold your pictures...
i've seen clauses in contracts that say they can depict you however they see fit.

gruffy · 05-03-2003, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
read the contract you signed with whoever sold your pictures...
i've seen clauses in contracts that say they can depict you however they see fit.

Well yes, so long as the depiction is legal.

Which in this case it is not.

I'd sue whoever licensed the content to these assclowns. If that domain name is on the license there is a nice big pile of money to be made.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 03:13 PM

here is the link so you guys can check it out. I am trying to get a hold of my photographer... he is really cool and usually sends me the links to people he sells my pics too.

http://amaturephonefuck.com they have me listed under "dolly"..if you click on the pic it gives a webpage about me (NOT)

is that pedofilic to you? OR am i being a bit touchy?

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Well yes, so long as the depiction is legal.

Which in this case it is not.

I'd sue whoever licensed the content to these assclowns. If that domain name is on the license there is a nice big pile of money to be made.

if the contract says they can depict her however they want, then she can't sue. whether or not the text is legal doesn't matter, unless the contract specifies that.

Triple 6 · 05-03-2003, 03:15 PM

You need to SUE. If not, who knows, you might even get arrested if people actually know its you and believe it. You might have cops knocking on your doors with a search warrant, OR WORSE, have some sicko pedo's knocking on your door. By getting a lawyer and taking action, you are saying that what they did is BULLSHIT and you are seeking DAMAGES.

You should also change your # and do some other things that could be shown in court as you taking appropriate steps to avoid sicko's.... Showing some type of suffering, even if you havent had any sickos try and contact you, you could get some more $$$ if you sue. Either way, money shouldnt be the important thing here, its your safety.

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
here is the link so you guys can check it out. I am trying to get a hold of my photographer... he is really cool and usually sends me the links to people he sells my pics too.

http://amaturephonefuck.com they have me listed under "dolly"..if you click on the pic it gives a webpage about me (NOT)

is that pedofilic to you? OR am i being a bit touchy?

it says the youngest lover you had was 12 years old. it doesn't say how old you were at the time. you could have been 12 too, or 15 or whatever.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Triple 6
You need to SUE. If not, who knows, you might even get arrested if people actually know its you and believe it. You might have cops knocking on your doors with a search warrant, OR WORSE, have some sicko pedo's knocking on your door. By getting a lawyer and taking action, you are saying that what they did is BULLSHIT and you are seeking DAMAGES.

You should also change your # and do some other things that could be shown in court as you taking appropriate steps to avoid sicko's.... Showing some type of suffering, even if you havent had any sickos try and contact you, you could get some more $$$ if you sue. Either way, money shouldnt be the important thing here, its your safety.

The sickos dont scare me..its the HRS and having my children taken form me cause they think i am into doing little boys..christ this is stressing me today...

HungSolo · 05-03-2003, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
here is the link so you guys can check it out. I am trying to get a hold of my photographer... he is really cool and usually sends me the links to people he sells my pics too.

http://amaturephonefuck.com they have me listed under "dolly"..if you click on the pic it gives a webpage about me (NOT)

is that pedofilic to you? OR am i being a bit touchy?

umm... do you still have your site?

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psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

The sickos dont scare me..its the HRS and having my children taken form me cause they think i am into doing little boys..christ this is stressing me today...

Perhaps you should have had a little foresight before posing nude. It's a good idea to think of possible consequences/reprecussions when you do anything in life.

If something you do can have your child taken away from you, don't do it!

Scootermuze · 05-03-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

The sickos dont scare me..its the HRS and having my children taken form me cause they think i am into doing little boys..christ this is stressing me today...

The 12 year old thing isn't a big issue.. as previously said.. You could just say you were that age as well when it happened.. easy enough to solve.. but I'd be more worried about the HRS seeing your pics online than the info... SOme of these uneducated, untrained, overworked HRS workers have this God complex and have been known to do some really stupid stuff..

05-03-2003, 03:27 PM

YOU NEED A LAWyER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

it says the youngest lover you had was 12 years old. it doesn't say how old you were at the time. you could have been 12 too, or 15 or whatever.

yes, it does say that the youngest i had was 12.... but i still think it borders on pedophilic statements. a 18 year old can still get arrested for having sex with a person under 18 ....it shouldnt even be listed on there..it just is crossing afine line in my eyes

StacyCat · 05-03-2003, 03:38 PM

Great, so models are now going to be looking at the sales contracts that their photographers use, to see if it acceptable to them.

I have a provision in my affilaite program that my pictures cannot be used in a "demeaning" mannor, such as "fatty, whore" etc. I havent had a problem yet, because most of my affiliates understand my niche :-) However, thats probably not going to be in my modeling contracts.

Can Content Providers post an applicable sales contract that would prohibit this? Or at least provide damanges in case something goes wrong? I think it was Unseen that had his models on an STD site, that the photos couldnt be altered in any way, something along those lines.

gruffy · 05-03-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
if the contract says they can depict her however they want, then she can't sue. whether or not the text is legal doesn't matter, unless the contract specifies that.

Sorry, what country is this in? Russia or Bulgaria?

Contracts don't mean shit when the law is broken like this. This is an easy claim against the site operator, their provider and whoever licensed them the content.

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 03:43 PM

this is taken straight from a provider's model release.

gruffy · 05-03-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

this is taken straight from a provider's model release.

It looks like an illegal contract.

Especially if the desired intention is to eliminate the possibility of a legal claim resulting from the promotion of pedophelia.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 04:06 PM

right on gruffy, its also NOT my models contract.

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
right on gruffy, its also NOT my models contract.

i never said it was. and the purpose of that contract isn't do avoid claims against promotion of pedophilia.

tony286 · 05-03-2003, 05:07 PM

That is in very bad taste and is wrong but if you signed a full model release without limits on it. He can sell your pic to be put on cans of dog food if he wants and legally you waived your rights when you signed that agreement.

xdcdave · 05-03-2003, 05:23 PM

they changed your profile.

http://www.amaturephonefuck.com/dolly.htm

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Youngest lover you've had: It's a secret :-)

psyko514 · 05-03-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Sorry, what country is this in? Russia or Bulgaria?

Contracts don't mean shit when the law is broken like this. This is an easy claim against the site operator, their provider and whoever licensed them the content.

The law being broken has nothing to do with the contract. They can say whatever they want if it's within the terms of the contract.

However, if what they say is illegal, then they can be brought to justice. But they cannot be sued for breach of contract or defamation of character.

Also, what was on their site isn't necessarily illegal and it's open to interpretation. Like I said, the fact that the youngest lover she ever had was 12 doesn't mean or even imply that she was over 18 at the time.

Joesho · 05-03-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

The sickos dont scare me..its the HRS and having my children taken form me cause they think i am into doing little boys..christ this is stressing me today...

Why would hrs be involved in your shit anyway? they don't just decide to come and take your kids, this aint AFGANISTAN!!!!

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 05:36 PM

the outcome...

I emailed the photographer and he did indeed sell the owner of the site the pics. He e-mailed her and she personally called me . I requested she remove the wording of me having a 12 year old lover .(.i dont care what state you are in.talking about underage sex and love is just pedophilic) She was real nice and understood where i am coming from. legally she can do what she wants with the pics , that i am well aware of..she agreed to remove the wording.. but can and will leave the mommy role play up there..oh well. wish she would put my banner on "dollys" page..lol..that girl is busy with all the "mommy" freaks..

thanks for the input guys and gals..this had me freaked out a bit.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Joesho

Why would hrs be involved in your shit anyway? they don't just decide to come and take your kids, this aint AFGANISTAN!!!!

people call them.. possibly people that see my pic with that shit on there.. thats how the HRS comes knocking at your door and they are a nighmare.

tony286 · 05-03-2003, 05:45 PM

Forget the kiddy thing couldnt HRs just take your kid away for doing porn, I think they can. Also your pic on website saying whatever is not going to get you in trouble, its not your site. They would have to prove you said these things and its not even your real name. You dont even know the person they were sold too.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 09:24 PM

unless you have dealt with the HRS before, then you know not of what you speak....they are beyond the law..just like the IRS and they are scary cause there is nothing you can say or do to convince them you are not hurting your children.... they like to hold your childs safety in their hands and dangle it in front of you.....Alot of porn people have children... no you cant get them taken away if you do porn..you can get them taken away for involving them or exposing them to porn...you can get arrested in a bible thumping community for them thinking you are harming your kids. ..or even THINKING you are doing something with your children.......HRS theory, is your guilty..till you try to prove your innocence, and we will do our damdest and lie and harrass you and threaten your children into lieing till proven not gulity.

KRL · 05-03-2003, 09:36 PM

Hey wait a sec here. Why in the hell did you make that sample of your voice message then where you clearly are saying the whole mommy fantasy in it????

We've done a lot of print ads in mags before for phone sex and we always had the models waive their right to review, inspect, approve, etc. any accompanying text next to their pictures.
I'm sure these guys would have it in their contracts also if they are doing this kind of thing.

Let's see your contract and I'll tell you if you have legal recourse or not.

I doubt you do regardless of how bad that is.

But again, why did you make the tape doing the Mommy fantasy?

Va2k · 05-03-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
HRS theory, is your guilty..till you try to prove your innocence, and we will do our damdest and lie and harrass you and threaten your children into lieing till proven not gulity.

A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

KRL · 05-03-2003, 10:13 PM

HRS is pretty rough to deal with. When my son was about 4 years old he got into his bottle of Flinstone chewable vitamins and ate a whole bunch. I called poison control just to see if that would be dangerous or not and they said because of the iron content we should take him to the ER and have his stomach pumped, which we did just to be on the safe side. Ingesting too much iron in a child doesn't show up right away. It takes about 2 weeks for it to start doing a number on the liver and can then be lethal.

Anyway we took him in. They got it all out. They made us keep him over night at the hospital. When we went to pick him up and check him out they said we can't discharge him yet until you speak to the HRS. I was like, excuse me. Why do we need to talk to the HRS. And the station nurse said anytime a child accidently ingests a potentially poisoinous substance HRS has to come in and interview the whole family. I was like you got to be kidding it was a bottle of kids vitamin chews. And the nurse said rules are rules just have a seat and wait.

It took 3 hours for the woman from HRS to arrive and I was going nuts by that time just from the wait. Then this HRS lady arrives and she has an instantly antagonistic attitude towards my wife and I like we're bad parents.

I asked her how long this interview would take and she said however long I decide it will be. That tells you what a power trip this one was on. So she starts asking why we keep pills within a childs reach and I told her we don't he pulled a chair up and grabbed them off the counter. Then she goes why don't you keep your pills closed and we said we did he figured out how to open them. Then she said why weren't you watching your child. And I told her I was in my home office and my wife was on the phone and our son was watching TV in the living room.

Then she really started being ridiculous and goes what other drugs do you keep in your house. Do you have controlled substances like cocaine, marajuana, in your house. At this point I wanted to pop her one right in the face. She goes how many drinks do you have a day. I was at the boiling point cause I don't do drugs and I don't drink liquor.

So I said look lady we waited 3 hours for you to get here. You've asked us enough ridiculoous questions and now enough is enough we're taking our son and going home. And she says no you're not. Not til I say so and if you say one more smart ass remark, he'll be going to HRS tonight.

Needless to say at that point I realized this lady was a total power freak so I just shut up and played the game for another half hour of ridiculous interrogation.

So they are pretty nasty over there.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Hey wait a sec here. Why in the hell did you make that sample of your voice message then where you clearly are saying the whole mommy fantasy in it????

We've done a lot of print ads in mags before for phone sex and we always had the models waive their right to review, inspect, approve, etc. any accompanying text next to their pictures.
I'm sure these guys would have it in their contracts also if they are doing this kind of thing.

Let's see your contract and I'll tell you if you have legal recourse or not.

I doubt you do regardless of how bad that is.

But again, why did you make the tape doing the Mommy fantasy?

I didnt make the voice message... its this chick that is using my pic to do phone sex with.. her forte is the mommy freaks..its not me doing the message and I am not DOLLY..lol. Its all freaky..

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
HRS is pretty rough to deal with. When my son was about 4 years old he got into his bottle of Flinstone chewable vitamins and ate a whole bunch. I called poison control just to see if that would be dangerous or not and they said because of the iron content we should take him to the ER and have his stomach pumped, which we did just to be on the safe side. Ingesting too much iron in a child doesn't show up right away. It takes about 2 weeks for it to start doing a number on the liver and can then be lethal.

Anyway we took him in. They got it all out. They made us keep him over night at the hospital. When we went to pick him up and check him out they said we can't discharge him yet until you speak to the HRS. I was like, excuse me. Why do we need to talk to the HRS. And the station nurse said anytime a child accidently ingests a potentially poisoinous substance HRS has to come in and interview the whole family. I was like you got to be kidding it was a bottle of kids vitamin chews. And the nurse said rules are rules just have a seat and wait.

It took 3 hours for the woman from HRS to arrive and I was going nuts by that time just from the wait. Then this HRS lady arrives and she has an instantly antagonistic attitude towards my wife and I like we're bad parents.

I asked her how long this interview would take and she said however long I decide it will be. That tells you what a power trip this one was on. So she starts asking why we keep pills within a childs reach and I told her we don't he pulled a chair up and grabbed them off the counter. Then she goes why don't you keep your pills closed and we said we did he figured out how to open them. Then she said why weren't you watching your child. And I told her I was in my home office and my wife was on the phone and our son was watching TV in the living room.

Then she really started being ridiculous and goes what other drugs do you keep in your house. Do you have controlled substances like cocaine, marajuana, in your house. At this point I wanted to pop her one right in the face. She goes how many drinks do you have a day. I was at the boiling point cause I don't do drugs and I don't drink liquor.

So I said look lady we waited 3 hours for you to get here. You've asked us enough ridiculoous questions and now enough is enough we're taking our son and going home. And she says no you're not. Not til I say so and if you say one more smart ass remark, he'll be going to HRS tonight.

Needless to say at that point I realized this lady was a total power freak so I just shut up and played the game for another half hour of ridiculous interrogation.

So they are pretty nasty over there.

I know what its like and you described them perfectly..are you in brevard county by chance..hehe. They took my kids away when my little one jumped off the bed and broke his arm.. tried to threaten my kids with foster home if they didnt lie and tell them we use drugs and drink all the time.. it was fucked up... took three days to get them back,,thanks to a smart lawyer and a very smart Bone Doctor and the fucking truth...scary scary scary they are..

thefreakybeaver · 05-03-2003, 10:38 PM

This is what it says under your pic though.

Remember how gentle and soft mommy's hands were? Mommy could pull you into her lap and make everything all right again. How many nights did you lay in bed and listen to the sounds of her moving around getting ready for bed? Didn't you always want her to come kneel beside your bed and lift up her nightgown so you could suck on those titties just one more time? By then your cock was rock hard and swelling bigger than the sheets could hide. What if she saw that big hard on bulging under there? Would she slip her hands under the covers and stroke you or just slip on top of you to make you cum?

How many times did you cum watching her in the shower and resist the impulse to jerk open that door and shower with her and enjoy her naked body? Was it you that snuck into her panty drawer and tried on all her silky panties and nylons?

Now is your chance to find out all those delicious thoughts that Mommy was hiding. Mommy still wants to rock you and nurse you and let you give back the white creamy milk you used to get from her. Don't you think it's about time you gave your mommy a call? You shouldn't make her wait...

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Am I the only one that reads that as being very underage oriented?? eek maybe I'm in the wrong biz cause I'd never go that far for a sale!

KRL · 05-03-2003, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

I didnt make the voice message... its this chick that is using my pic to do phone sex with.. her forte is the mommy freaks..its not me doing the message and I am not DOLLY..lol. Its all freaky..

Did you signoff on the voice representation. You might have an angle there to pursue.

KRL · 05-03-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by thefreakybeaver
This is what it says under your pic though.

Remember how gentle and soft mommy's hands were? Mommy could pull you into her lap and make everything all right again. How many nights did you lay in bed and listen to the sounds of her moving around getting ready for bed? Didn't you always want her to come kneel beside your bed and lift up her nightgown so you could suck on those titties just one more time? By then your cock was rock hard and swelling bigger than the sheets could hide. What if she saw that big hard on bulging under there? Would she slip her hands under the covers and stroke you or just slip on top of you to make you cum?

How many times did you cum watching her in the shower and resist the impulse to jerk open that door and shower with her and enjoy her naked body? Was it you that snuck into her panty drawer and tried on all her silky panties and nylons?

Now is your chance to find out all those delicious thoughts that Mommy was hiding. Mommy still wants to rock you and nurse you and let you give back the white creamy milk you used to get from her. Don't you think it's about time you gave your mommy a call? You shouldn't make her wait...

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Am I the only one that reads that as being very underage oriented?? eek maybe I'm in the wrong biz cause I'd never go that far for a sale!

They're going for the incest crowd.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 10:43 PM

sickening..to say the least... I am half scared to turn the site in for exposure of having my face associated with that with the law in a pedofile internet case...eek!.. i dont like the law much...but i'm no sick fuck into that shit at all and it does disturb me.

Her lawyer explains it is a fantasy site..and its legal.... i say it goes over the line and is illegal.. ..ugh. I do need to have a lawyer check it out for sure.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Did you signoff on the voice representation. You might have an angle there to pursue.

I dont see it in the papers.. but i need to reread them again and check... you do have a point

Paul Markham · 05-03-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

this is taken straight from a provider's model release.

Looks like my contract.

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Originally posted by gruffy

It looks like an illegal contract.

Especially if the desired intention is to eliminate the possibility of a legal claim resulting from the promotion of pedophelia.

I think you will find this contract will hold up in court. After all it's the contract Hustler accept.

StacyCat
What is demeaning? That you like anal sex, swallow cum, have sex with anyone who asks, enjoy flashing in night clubs, etc. What one person thinss demeaning another doesl not.

This is why webmasters need the documents, do you really want to be facing someones attorney because you put wording they do not like against their pictures?

Models should realise if they want to remain annonamous, best they do not drop their knickers in front of our cameras and take our money.

C_U_Next_Tuesday
If you're really worried that social services will take your children away from you, I suggest you take down your website and get out of the porno business.

Paul Markham · 05-03-2003, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
she agreed to remove the wording.. but can and will leave the mommy role play up there..oh well. wish she would put my banner on "dollys" page..lol..that girl is busy with all the "mommy" freaks..

Seems you are not that worried about HRS so long as you make a buck.

If you were worried about them you would not be thinking about linking to the site.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-03-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Seems you are not that worried about HRS so long as you make a buck.

If you were worried about them you would not be thinking about linking to the site.

I'm not making a buck at all.. nada..zero zip. I dont want my face associated with mommy freaks and pedofiles..and i was expressing my concern....event he photographer was not very happy with the webmasters wording. bad me for making a joke in the heat of frustration and stress... fuck off

I dont do anything on my site to make anyone take my kids from me fool..its called misrepresentation with my pic..understand.

thefreakybeaver · 05-03-2003, 11:16 PM

HRS is called DSS around here (Department of Social Services) and they are the TOP office, no office oversees what they do and there is NOBODY to report them to if there is a problem with them. They are regulated by NOBODY and the courts tend to believe EVERY word they say.

They act like detectives and even tell you that "IF you cooperate with us things will be easier on you" If you refuse to let them in your house, they will get the cops and come in and take your kids period. I knew some good parents and some bad parents who went through hell with them.

I had to deal with them one time when I left the ex and he decided to try to make my life a living hell lol. She was a very nice lady though and KNEW he was just being an asshole.

I however have heard HORROR stories about these ppl and just to hear the letters DSS sends a chill down every parents I know's spine. It's the unknown that sucks. Will I get a bitch, will she believe me, the kids, the neighbors or even worse the EX!

05-03-2003, 02:29 PM	#1
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	legal question about pics ok.. i found my pic listed on this phone sex site. the pic was taken by a photographer and i am in the porcess of finding out if he sold the pic to the said webmaster....now my beef is with the false information that could possibly have my children taken away from me. they have my pic with a different name (no probleml), you click on my name and you get a whole little page on my so called life (all false) in in they say i like mommy role play and that my youngest lover is 12..WTF! Now the wierdo mommy little boy shit is enough to make me sick let alone true.....so do i have rights for them not to publish pedophilic statements supposed made by "my picture"?

05-03-2003, 02:36 PM	#3
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Ouch, the 12 year old thing sucks. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 05-03-2003 at 02:38 PM..

05-03-2003, 03:02 PM	#10
natkejs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nomad Land Posts: 1,629	Shit man you'll get rich by suing them for that. Generally the photographer has rights to use a picture, as well as the person(s) in the picture. However what you're describing is in no way legal, unless they're based in some fucked up country that's so screwed on drugs they haven't come around to creating laws yet. __________________

05-03-2003, 03:06 PM	#11
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	read the contract you signed with whoever sold your pictures... i've seen clauses in contracts that say they can depict you however they see fit. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

05-03-2003, 03:15 PM	#15
Triple 6 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: isN'T everything Posts: 5,394	You need to SUE. If not, who knows, you might even get arrested if people actually know its you and believe it. You might have cops knocking on your doors with a search warrant, OR WORSE, have some sicko pedo's knocking on your door. By getting a lawyer and taking action, you are saying that what they did is BULLSHIT and you are seeking DAMAGES. You should also change your # and do some other things that could be shown in court as you taking appropriate steps to avoid sicko's.... Showing some type of suffering, even if you havent had any sickos try and contact you, you could get some more $$$ if you sue. Either way, money shouldnt be the important thing here, its your safety. __________________ SIG TOO SMALL! Maximum 1200x600 button and no more than 30 text lines of ALL SIZES and COLORS. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 6240x4800 instead of a 1024x800.

05-03-2003, 02:36 PM	#4
HungSolo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away... Posts: 582	How would anyone else know it was you in the pic? Obviously they shouldn't be making text about KP, but are people really gonna recognize that it's you and assume the story is true, but the name isn't?

05-03-2003, 02:41 PM	#6
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	shitty thing is , i believe they bought the pics legally.. I need a good lawyer to look into this for me for sure...makes me want to break the baseball bat out on these minnesota sick fucks. Registrant: Sol-Tech PO Box 122 Becker, MN 55308 US Domain name: AMATUREPHONEFUCK.COM Administrative Contact: C., T. [email protected] PO Box 122 Becker, MN 55308 US 866-923-8889 Technical Contact: C., T. [email protected] PO Box 122 Becker, MN 55308 US 866-923-8889 Registration Service Provider: California.net / Reliablehosting, [email protected] 530 542 3331 http://www.reliablehosting.com This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords, DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions. Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 02-May-2003. Record expires on 03-Dec-2004. Record Created on 03-Dec-2001. Domain servers in listed order: NS.RACKSPACE.COM 207.235.16.2 NS2.RACKSPACE.COM 207.71.44.121The this is the info i got on them.. so far no reply to take the comments off.. SO IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD ASSLICKER.. SPEAK NOW !

05-03-2003, 02:43 PM	#7
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05-03-2003, 03:13 PM	#13
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	here is the link so you guys can check it out. I am trying to get a hold of my photographer... he is really cool and usually sends me the links to people he sells my pics too. http://amaturephonefuck.com they have me listed under "dolly"..if you click on the pic it gives a webpage about me (NOT) is that pedofilic to you? OR am i being a bit touchy?

05-03-2003, 03:27 PM	#21
Angelonfire Guest Posts: n/a	YOU NEED A LAWyER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-03-2003, 03:38 PM	#23
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	Great, so models are now going to be looking at the sales contracts that their photographers use, to see if it acceptable to them. I have a provision in my affilaite program that my pictures cannot be used in a "demeaning" mannor, such as "fatty, whore" etc. I havent had a problem yet, because most of my affiliates understand my niche :-) However, thats probably not going to be in my modeling contracts. Can Content Providers post an applicable sales contract that would prohibit this? Or at least provide damanges in case something goes wrong? I think it was Unseen that had his models on an STD site, that the photos couldnt be altered in any way, something along those lines.

05-03-2003, 03:43 PM	#25
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	this is taken straight from a provider's model release. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

05-03-2003, 04:06 PM	#27
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	right on gruffy, its also NOT my models contract.

05-03-2003, 05:07 PM	#29
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	That is in very bad taste and is wrong but if you signed a full model release without limits on it. He can sell your pic to be put on cans of dog food if he wants and legally you waived your rights when you signed that agreement.

05-03-2003, 05:36 PM	#33
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	the outcome... I emailed the photographer and he did indeed sell the owner of the site the pics. He e-mailed her and she personally called me . I requested she remove the wording of me having a 12 year old lover .(.i dont care what state you are in.talking about underage sex and love is just pedophilic) She was real nice and understood where i am coming from. legally she can do what she wants with the pics , that i am well aware of..she agreed to remove the wording.. but can and will leave the mommy role play up there..oh well. wish she would put my banner on "dollys" page..lol..that girl is busy with all the "mommy" freaks.. thanks for the input guys and gals..this had me freaked out a bit.

05-03-2003, 05:45 PM	#35
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Forget the kiddy thing couldnt HRs just take your kid away for doing porn, I think they can. Also your pic on website saying whatever is not going to get you in trouble, its not your site. They would have to prove you said these things and its not even your real name. You dont even know the person they were sold too.

05-03-2003, 09:24 PM	#36
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	unless you have dealt with the HRS before, then you know not of what you speak....they are beyond the law..just like the IRS and they are scary cause there is nothing you can say or do to convince them you are not hurting your children.... they like to hold your childs safety in their hands and dangle it in front of you.....Alot of porn people have children... no you cant get them taken away if you do porn..you can get them taken away for involving them or exposing them to porn...you can get arrested in a bible thumping community for them thinking you are harming your kids. ..or even THINKING you are doing something with your children.......HRS theory, is your guilty..till you try to prove your innocence, and we will do our damdest and lie and harrass you and threaten your children into lieing till proven not gulity.

05-03-2003, 09:36 PM	#37
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Hey wait a sec here. Why in the hell did you make that sample of your voice message then where you clearly are saying the whole mommy fantasy in it???? We've done a lot of print ads in mags before for phone sex and we always had the models waive their right to review, inspect, approve, etc. any accompanying text next to their pictures. I'm sure these guys would have it in their contracts also if they are doing this kind of thing. Let's see your contract and I'll tell you if you have legal recourse or not. I doubt you do regardless of how bad that is. But again, why did you make the tape doing the Mommy fantasy? __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-03-2003, 10:13 PM	#39
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	HRS is pretty rough to deal with. When my son was about 4 years old he got into his bottle of Flinstone chewable vitamins and ate a whole bunch. I called poison control just to see if that would be dangerous or not and they said because of the iron content we should take him to the ER and have his stomach pumped, which we did just to be on the safe side. Ingesting too much iron in a child doesn't show up right away. It takes about 2 weeks for it to start doing a number on the liver and can then be lethal. Anyway we took him in. They got it all out. They made us keep him over night at the hospital. When we went to pick him up and check him out they said we can't discharge him yet until you speak to the HRS. I was like, excuse me. Why do we need to talk to the HRS. And the station nurse said anytime a child accidently ingests a potentially poisoinous substance HRS has to come in and interview the whole family. I was like you got to be kidding it was a bottle of kids vitamin chews. And the nurse said rules are rules just have a seat and wait. It took 3 hours for the woman from HRS to arrive and I was going nuts by that time just from the wait. Then this HRS lady arrives and she has an instantly antagonistic attitude towards my wife and I like we're bad parents. I asked her how long this interview would take and she said however long I decide it will be. That tells you what a power trip this one was on. So she starts asking why we keep pills within a childs reach and I told her we don't he pulled a chair up and grabbed them off the counter. Then she goes why don't you keep your pills closed and we said we did he figured out how to open them. Then she said why weren't you watching your child. And I told her I was in my home office and my wife was on the phone and our son was watching TV in the living room. Then she really started being ridiculous and goes what other drugs do you keep in your house. Do you have controlled substances like cocaine, marajuana, in your house. At this point I wanted to pop her one right in the face. She goes how many drinks do you have a day. I was at the boiling point cause I don't do drugs and I don't drink liquor. So I said look lady we waited 3 hours for you to get here. You've asked us enough ridiculoous questions and now enough is enough we're taking our son and going home. And she says no you're not. Not til I say so and if you say one more smart ass remark, he'll be going to HRS tonight. Needless to say at that point I realized this lady was a total power freak so I just shut up and played the game for another half hour of ridiculous interrogation. So they are pretty nasty over there. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-03-2003, 10:38 PM	#42
thefreakybeaver Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 296	This is what it says under your pic though. Remember how gentle and soft mommy's hands were? Mommy could pull you into her lap and make everything all right again. How many nights did you lay in bed and listen to the sounds of her moving around getting ready for bed? Didn't you always want her to come kneel beside your bed and lift up her nightgown so you could suck on those titties just one more time? By then your cock was rock hard and swelling bigger than the sheets could hide. What if she saw that big hard on bulging under there? Would she slip her hands under the covers and stroke you or just slip on top of you to make you cum? How many times did you cum watching her in the shower and resist the impulse to jerk open that door and shower with her and enjoy her naked body? Was it you that snuck into her panty drawer and tried on all her silky panties and nylons? Now is your chance to find out all those delicious thoughts that Mommy was hiding. Mommy still wants to rock you and nurse you and let you give back the white creamy milk you used to get from her. Don't you think it's about time you gave your mommy a call? You shouldn't make her wait... ----------------- Am I the only one that reads that as being very underage oriented?? eek maybe I'm in the wrong biz cause I'd never go that far for a sale!

05-03-2003, 10:43 PM	#45
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	sickening..to say the least... I am half scared to turn the site in for exposure of having my face associated with that with the law in a pedofile internet case...eek!.. i dont like the law much...but i'm no sick fuck into that shit at all and it does disturb me. Her lawyer explains it is a fantasy site..and its legal.... i say it goes over the line and is illegal.. ..ugh. I do need to have a lawyer check it out for sure.

05-03-2003, 11:16 PM	#50
thefreakybeaver Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 296	HRS is called DSS around here (Department of Social Services) and they are the TOP office, no office oversees what they do and there is NOBODY to report them to if there is a problem with them. They are regulated by NOBODY and the courts tend to believe EVERY word they say. They act like detectives and even tell you that "IF you cooperate with us things will be easier on you" If you refuse to let them in your house, they will get the cops and come in and take your kids period. I knew some good parents and some bad parents who went through hell with them. I had to deal with them one time when I left the ex and he decided to try to make my life a living hell lol. She was a very nice lady though and KNEW he was just being an asshole. I however have heard HORROR stories about these ppl and just to hear the letters DSS sends a chill down every parents I know's spine. It's the unknown that sucks. Will I get a bitch, will she believe me, the kids, the neighbors or even worse the EX!