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VRPdommy 11-28-2018 05:35 PM

I think when the dust settles, if ever, we will find the Russian's oligarchs hold a lot of Trumps debt.
But more than that, they hold his cash flow as they launder money between his properties.
If the cash flow stops, his legit and non legit debt is unpayable.
I sense he has been in arrears with some of that Russian debt and fears poisoning.

If you were just able to see his taxes, most of it would all make sense I'm sure.
I really doubt we will see that during his time in office.
Seems to be what he fears most... someone connecting those financial dots.

Probably true that his kids will take most of the blame. He can pardon them.

Those of you totally frustrated with this need to just wait and let the rules and law play themselves out. Nobody can be above the law for any reason including this.

Just remember when it's over to make sure measures are in place so that it can't happen again.

directfiesta 11-28-2018 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22373703)
Are you saying that an embassy couldn't get someone through multiple layers of security without "logging them in"..... Of course they can.

They are doing that at the White House as well as Mar-a-Largo .... no logs !!!!!

Rochard 11-28-2018 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=VRPdommy;22373798]

Probably true that his kids will take most of the blame. He can pardon them.
/QUOTE]

He can pardon his kids all he wants. At some point Trump will no longer be in office and unable to protect them.

Mueller's investigations will reveal all kinds of bad things, and at some point the states will have to have local investigations. They already are having an investigation into his charity.

VRPdommy 11-29-2018 12:24 AM

[QUOTE=Rochard;22373817]
Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22373798)

Probably true that his kids will take most of the blame. He can pardon them.
/QUOTE]

He can pardon his kids all he wants. At some point Trump will no longer be in office and unable to protect them.

Mueller's investigations will reveal all kinds of bad things, and at some point the states will have to have local investigations. They already are having an investigation into his charity.

I guess the point I was trying to make was not to try to go above the law to get him.
Would make everything bad for everyone going forward setting some new kinda standard.

He is fairly well protected as long as he is POTUS but we all know that will not last forever.
Patents... it will all come out in the wash.

I am surprised as anyone that this BS was even possible. But make sure it's not when the dust settles.

NewNick 11-29-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22373725)
I'm saying that you don't know what the word "fact" means, much less how to use it correctly in a sentence (or thread title).

There are some interesting "facts" in this article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46390368

Lots of law breaking type "facts"

The kind you get to plead guilty about. In exchange for you cooperation obviously.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

King Mark 11-29-2018 09:00 AM

The Ultra Right Denialists Party of MAGA (T.U.R.D for short) will be going into full ultra denial mode now that their masters are pleading guilty to everything the party has been denying.

Tasty1 11-29-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22373517)
I am not a Hillary fan by any stretch of imagination, but I never understood how much Republicans hated her. They had a dozen investigations into her, and all of them never had even had a crime attached to them.

With the email server... What crime was committed? There is no law against a public official running their government email through their own personal server. It might seem odd to the general public, but it turns out this was routine.... This was common at the State Department - past Secretaries of State used a similar system - and members of Congress have also used similar systems. It was not a crime to do this, and it still isn't a crime to do this.

With Benghazi.... What crime was she accused of? The State Department isn't in charge of Embassy security - The Department Of Defense is. In fact, the United States Marines are the ones with boots on the ground. I think the world of United States Marines, but two dozen lightly armed Marines cannot fend off hundreds of people for long. The Secretary Of State cannot order the military to invade another country to protect an embassy - that's an act of war. Even if the President wanted to do this, it would have been too little too late. We had a quick reaction force in Italy, but... By the time we learned of the attack, got details of the attack and came up with a plan, and gave them marching orders... The attack was over. So what we would charge Hillary with? Failure to make a decision she cannot legally make?

All of this was hype. And it worked. They are still doing it. They are still investigating Hillary. In fact, I think they are investigating the people who investigated her. Whatever.

Meanwhile, we have a serious investigation where we are accusing a sitting US president of directly colluding with a foreign government into rigging a US election and.... People are going to jail. Dozens of people have been indicted. It took six years to finish Watergate and over sixty people were indicted. This investigation is just two years in and we have dozens indicted. This investigation is just getting started.

But whatever. There is nothing to see here, right?

American culture on both sites, suing people and saying you will sent a lawyer.

Acepimp 11-29-2018 03:50 PM

IT WAS A HOAX: Guardian Report Blows Up – Manafort Passport Shows NO UK TRIPS – Never Met with Assange

:error

Rochard 11-29-2018 03:59 PM

I am sorry.... But any website that has the headline "CNN’s Chris Cuomo Compares Criminal Illegal Aliens to Baby Jesus" is clearly not a news site.

But I will argue with you any how.... I've been to England twice now and my passport isn't stamped....

directfiesta 11-29-2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374268)
I am sorry.... But any website that has the headline "CNN’s Chris Cuomo Compares Criminal Illegal Aliens to Baby Jesus" is clearly not a news site.

But I will argue with you any how.... I've been to England twice now and my passport isn't stamped....

So have I ... and Italy ... and Cuba ... France stamped it

directfiesta 11-29-2018 05:12 PM

The famous Gateliepundit.com ......

I understand that you have no passeport ( other then one for entry at the Waterpark, where you work off season ) , but some have ... and more then one :

Manafort has 3 passports, traveled to China with phone registered under fake name

* Manafort currently has three US passports, each under a different number. He has submitted 10 passport applications in roughly as many years, prosecutors said.


Asspimple, run to the fuckwaypundit.com for more news .....

Acepimp 11-29-2018 06:23 PM

There is zero evidence that Manafort met with Assange.

You guys and your conspiracies :1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 12-04-2018 08:08 AM

So it comes out today that OP is a liar. He did not meet with Assange and in fact the talk with the president of Ecuador was to get Assange out of the embassy. Bladewire wrong again

Acepimp 12-04-2018 08:19 AM

Gfy has deteriorated into a bunch of far left conspiracy nutters posting bullshit fake news.

"Nevermind that hillary sold Russia 20% of our uranium and then Russia donated $150 million to the Clinton foundation! It's just a coincidence!! Trump and Putin rigged the election!"

:1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 12-04-2018 08:23 AM

My point is that Mark stopped doing this for his own sanity and it's made GFY slightly better. Remember when it was Stormy Daniels who was going to be the end of Donald, or X reason or Y reason. How about we all just wait and see and spend more time making posts about Business and video games and things we can all get behind and enjoy instead of untethered anger and conspiracy theories. Turn of CNN or FOX or MSNBC and trust me your brain will thank you for the favor.

Rochard 12-04-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22376639)
My point is that Mark stopped doing this for his own sanity and it's made GFY slightly better. Remember when it was Stormy Daniels who was going to be the end of Donald, or X reason or Y reason. How about we all just wait and see and spend more time making posts about Business and video games and things we can all get behind and enjoy instead of untethered anger and conspiracy theories. Turn of CNN or FOX or MSNBC and trust me your brain will thank you for the favor.

Let's all keep in mind the Watergate investigation took six years. We are only one third of the way there.

Everything about this administration is evil, vile, and corrupt.

Trump went to the G20 meeting, made a big announcement about China removing tariffs on American cars, but no in the entire United States government can tell us anything about the deal or agreement. The deal doesn't even make sense, and wouldn't benefit American auto companies anyhow. In order for China to remove tariffs on American cars in China, they would have to remove all tariffs against all cars sold in China because of a prior WTO agreement. American car companies would hardly benefit, being as we already make cars in China. WTF?

We have a single investigation that is turning in indictment after indictment. We just found out that everyone in the Trump administration lied about attempts to do business in Moscow during the campaign. Russia knew this, and thus had compromising information about the President. Please don't tell me they weren't working on a deal; Trump offered Putin a $50 million condo to sweeten the deal and they already had financing in place.

I'm tired of this. We need a new law that says if you lie to the FBI during a political investigation, you go to prison for ten years. We have lie after lie after lie. It's sickening.

VRPdommy 12-04-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22373699)
The libtards can't get enough of their myths and legends..

If I were Trump I would have ended this charade long ago.. You really have to hand it to him for allowing it to go on.. I hope as soon as that kook Pelosi sits down as Speaker he slaps her with it all.

What... is pelosi gonna have missing emails too ? Yep gotta hand it to him, he has not been very smart at all.

If he would have and could have not said as much, he might have got away with many things, perhaps not all of it. So if you were him, perhaps you would have done better, is easy to believe.

Remember that it is President Trump and not King Trump. For now anyway.

Can't wait to hear about those missing Pelosi emails, pizza child sex shops and uranium sales to Russia. Pelosi will be the new target. As well as those that are about to challenge him on the right for his job and those on the left.

He's got a lot of lying to make up so don't disturb him with this witch hunt stuff....
You need to find a lawyer who will work for him... nobody will take the job offers.
I wonder why...http://thoughtpatrol.com/wp-content/...9-1080x675.jpg

Bladewire 12-04-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22376782)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 12-04-2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22373787)
That's incorrect. They stopped having twenty-four hour guards in front of the embassy. It never says they stopped surveillance. In fact, we are positive they have twenty-four hour surveillance on the embassy because of Julian.

Yeah, I would think it's being watched. Not to mention it's bugged. If Turkey had bugs in the Saudi Embassy, I got to think it's probably pretty standard practice for most governments to be doing these types of things to foreign powers they have issues with.

Rochard 12-04-2018 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22376786)
Yeah, I would think it's being watched. Not to mention it's bugged. If Turkey had bugs in the Saudi Embassy, I got to think it's probably pretty standard practice for most governments to be doing these types of things to foreign powers they have issues with.

All large countries do this.

I have a book written by the guy who was behind the operation to sneak Americans hiding out in the Canadian embassy in Iran in the 1970s. He details everything they did to bug each other. One story was about how they used to have access to one of the embassy cars at night, and they created a special head rest for one of the seats that looked stock but was hiding microphones. They also used to break into Embassys at night.

Tony Mendez is the guy:

Spy Dust: Two Masters of Disguise Reveal the Tools and Operations That Helped Win the Cold War - Antonio & Jonna Mendez - International Spy Museum Store

VRPdommy 12-04-2018 03:20 PM

Yes, we bug all friend or foe.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b07aec5753818c
Wonder how the Republicans are going to take that !

I'll await the emails LOL

Funny, they say there was a limit to what was seen, but I don't they really know unless they are keeping very extensive logs that I would highly doubt. Nobody wants a trail like that to also be hackable.

Could be for trump to use against his party foes running for office in 2020 ...LOL

Rochard 12-04-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22376874)
Yes, we bug all friend or foe.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b07aec5753818c
Wonder how the Republicans are going to take that !

I'll await the emails LOL

Funny, they say there was a limit to what was seen, but I don't they really know unless they are keeping very extensive logs that I would highly doubt. Nobody wants a trail like that to also be hackable.

Could be for trump to use against his party foes running for office in 2020 ...LOL

The Russians know the Republicans won't be in the White House much longer.

Matt-ADX 12-04-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22376853)
All large countries do this.

I have a book written by the guy who was behind the operation to sneak Americans hiding out in the Canadian embassy in Iran in the 1970s. He details everything they did to bug each other. One story was about how they used to have access to one of the embassy cars at night, and they created a special head rest for one of the seats that looked stock but was hiding microphones. They also used to break into Embassys at night.

Tony Mendez is the guy:

Spy Dust: Two Masters of Disguise Reveal the Tools and Operations That Helped Win the Cold War - Antonio & Jonna Mendez - International Spy Museum Store

Yeah, I would have said I bet they spy on all countries, but the thought that the US feels the need to spy on Canadian embassies escapes me. Or I just don't want to think it's true. Bromance forever?

crockett 12-04-2018 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22376897)
Yeah, I would have said I bet they spy on all countries, but the thought that the US feels the need to spy on Canadian embassies escapes me. Or I just don't want to think it's true. Bromance forever?

In tne position our country is in it would require we spy on everyone including our friends. However spying on Canada for instance wouldn't be at the same level as spying on Saudi Arabia or Turkey for example.. There are allies and then there are allies...

VRPdommy 12-04-2018 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22376939)
In tne position our country is in it would require we spy on everyone including our friends. However spying on Canada for instance wouldn't be at the same level as spying on Saudi Arabia or Turkey for example.. There are allies and then there are allies...

Just because the country is your friend does not mean everyone who works for them is.

If I had a reason to think your security was poor and someone working for you, was working against you or me, I might not say anything to you until I knew what they were up to and how wide the problem was.
You can't just sit there and monitor everyone's everything. It's still a need to know lead based hunt.

But sometimes a known breech will spawn some dis-information.
Keeps everyone guessing still.

VRPdommy 12-05-2018 12:22 AM

WOW... suspected a lot but this is a little more than expected for sure 'if true'
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/04/mos...apher_partner/

“I believe most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by” Russian money, the author added. “The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee run by Mitch McConnell got millions from [Soviet-born businessman] Leonard Blavatnik.”

Can we drain this swamp or is it to big ?

_Richard_ 12-05-2018 12:45 AM

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-SCO-Supp.html

seems like we enter treason territory now? '....coordination between russian government and individuals associated with trump campaign....'


Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22376635)
Gfy has deteriorated into a bunch of far left conspiracy nutters posting bullshit fake news.

"Nevermind that hillary sold Russia 20% of our uranium and then Russia donated $150 million to the Clinton foundation! It's just a coincidence!! Trump and Putin rigged the election!"

:1orglaugh

this is really funny cause russia hates clinton with a passion.. do you have any links showing a donation? cause that's kind of a big deal

Matt-ADX 12-05-2018 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22376939)
In tne position our country is in it would require we spy on everyone including our friends. However spying on Canada for instance wouldn't be at the same level as spying on Saudi Arabia or Turkey for example.. There are allies and then there are allies...

Yeah, I think my Saudi, Turkey example isn't quite the same as a Canada US example. You are right

directfiesta 12-05-2018 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 22377068)
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-SCO-Supp.html

seems like we enter treason territory now? '....coordination between russian government and individuals associated with trump campaign....'




this is really funny cause russia hates clinton with a passion.. do you have any links showing a donation? cause that's kind of a big deal

sear ching gatewaypundit.cpom and dailycaller.com

Asspimple will be back to you ...., maybe .... or will just deflect .

Rochard 12-05-2018 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22376897)
Yeah, I would have said I bet they spy on all countries, but the thought that the US feels the need to spy on Canadian embassies escapes me. Or I just don't want to think it's true. Bromance forever?

There can be huge payoffs. For example the US, Canada, and Mexico, just signed the new same old NAFTA agreement. I am sure the US would want to know if Canada and Mexico were talking about the agreement behind our backs - and I am sure they were. That would be a routine part of the process for any agreement with multiple countries. But if one country was to have insight into what the other parties were discussing it would be a good thing to have.

Matt-ADX 12-05-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22377257)
There can be huge payoffs. For example the US, Canada, and Mexico, just signed the new same old NAFTA agreement. I am sure the US would want to know if Canada and Mexico were talking about the agreement behind our backs - and I am sure they were. That would be a routine part of the process for any agreement with multiple countries. But if one country was to have insight into what the other parties were discussing it would be a good thing to have.

Yeah, I would think the same thing, certainly information of any kind is key. I would imagine if we elected our own Cheeto Prime Minister you would want to know everything you could. But wonder what the downside would be if it was found out. Or we just assume it's going down.

bronco67 12-05-2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 22377068)
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-SCO-Supp.html

seems like we enter treason territory now? '....coordination between russian government and individuals associated with trump campaign....'




this is really funny cause russia hates clinton with a passion.. do you have any links showing a donation? cause that's kind of a big deal

Isn't it even funnier that Acepimp calls real news fake news and fake news real news? He lives in a reality where a few smart people know the real truth. Everyone else is being fed a lie by the mainstream media.

Acepimp 12-05-2018 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 22377068)
this is really funny cause russia hates clinton with a passion.. do you have any links showing a donation? cause that's kind of a big deal

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22377222)
sear ching gatewaypundit.cpom and dailycaller.com

Asspimple will be back to you ...., maybe .... or will just deflect .

Hello Richard, yes I'll gladly share the info below.

Hello DirectFiesta. I'm stunned at how uninformed you are. :1orglaugh


NYT: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

TheHill: FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

NY Daily News: The truth about that 'Clinton’ uranium deal Trump won't stop talking about

"People connected with Uranium One donated $145 million to the Clinton Foundation, much of it before the deal was reached, and Bill Clinton also got $500,000 from a Kremlin-linked bank for a speech in Moscow."

And let's not forget about Hillary's campaign guy John Podesta:

EXCLUSIVE: JOHN PODESTA MAY HAVE VIOLATED FEDERAL LAW BY NOT DISCLOSING 75,000 STOCK SHARES

While we're at it, don't forget that Robert Mueller was neck-deep in the uranium scandal:

Hillary Clinton requested FBI Dir. Mueller deliver highly enriched uranium to the Russians in 2009 in secret ‘plane-side tarmac meeting’

But but but Trump! Russian hookers! Pee-gate! Putin blackmail! HAHAHAHAHA

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 12-05-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22377301)
Hello Richard, yes I'll gladly share the info below.

Hello DirectFiesta. I'm stunned at how uninformed you are. :1orglaugh


NYT: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

TheHill: FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

NY Daily News: The truth about that 'Clinton’ uranium deal Trump won't stop talking about

"People connected with Uranium One donated $145 million to the Clinton Foundation, much of it before the deal was reached, and Bill Clinton also got $500,000 from a Kremlin-linked bank for a speech in Moscow."

And let's not forget about Hillary's campaign guy John Podesta:

EXCLUSIVE: JOHN PODESTA MAY HAVE VIOLATED FEDERAL LAW BY NOT DISCLOSING 75,000 STOCK SHARES

While we're at it, don't forget that Robert Mueller was neck-deep in the uranium scandal:

Hillary Clinton requested FBI Dir. Mueller deliver highly enriched uranium to the Russians in 2009 in secret ‘plane-side tarmac meeting’

But but but Trump! Russian hookers! Pee-gate! Putin blackmail! HAHAHAHAHA

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


You got conned by the worlds most obvious con-man. You wish you voted for Hillary now.

Matt-ADX 12-05-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22377315)
You got conned by the worlds most obvious con-man. You wish you voted for Hillary now.

I don't know how you keep burying your head in the sand and pretend that Hillary wasn't extremely corrupt. How they left the white house broke as a joke and the made $250 Million or more in 15 years.

Acepimp 12-05-2018 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22377315)
You got conned by the worlds most obvious con-man. You wish you voted for Hillary now.

How can you ignore the wikileaks info? You're covering for a career criminal politician. Also there's no evidence of wrongdoing from Trump. No one wishes they voted for Hillary :1orglaugh

VRPdommy 12-05-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22377318)
I don't know how you keep burying your head in the sand and pretend that Hillary wasn't extremely corrupt. How they left the white house broke as a joke and the made $250 Million or more in 15 years.

Seems to me that she did piss off a lot of folks...

Putin and the oligarchs for the sanctions that targeted them after the invasion of Crimea,
which lead to the promotion of Trump against Hillary,
in some deal to get those sanctions eased or eliminated while Trump has been mad because his operations inside and outside of Russia were crimped when the oligarchs' could not play money with Trump who can't survive without it.

But it may be more far reaching than that...
More Bombshells for the GOP to follow ! And I will not doubt some DNC folks will be in this mess as well. Drain That Swamp !
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/04/mos...apher_partner/

I do wonder just how far Mueller may be able to go or will he just leave it on the lap for further investigations not fully related ...LOL...

Matt-ADX 12-05-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22377334)
Seems to me that she did piss off a lot of folks...

Putin and the oligarchs for the sanctions that targeted them after the invasion of Crimea,
which lead to the promotion of Trump against Hillary,
in some deal to get those sanctions eased or eliminated while Trump has been mad because his operations inside and outside of Russia were crimped when the oligarchs' could not play money with Trump who can't survive without it.

But it may be more far reaching than that...
More Bombshells for the GOP to follow ! And I will not doubt some DNC folks will be in this mess as well. Drain That Swamp !
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/04/mos...apher_partner/

I do wonder just how far Mueller may be able to go or will he just leave it on the lap for further investigations not fully related ...LOL...

Putin hated Hillary long before Crimea, her push to try and help the Georgian uprising was something he never forgot.

grumpy 12-09-2018 11:29 AM

So...how did this work out for you?

Bladewire 12-09-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22377318)
I don't know how you keep burying your head in the sand and pretend that Hillary wasn't extremely corrupt. How they left the white house broke as a joke and the made $250 Million or more in 15 years.

Every penny of the Clinton's income the last 15 years is released here:

The presidential tax history project

This info has been publicly available for years.

You're too lazy to Google info and you are more than happy to spread false information.

The truth is like Kryptonite Trump supporters.

Now, back on topic

Collusion is now a fact: Manafort met with Assange in 2016


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