Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22300056)

It's no theory.. It's reality that US manufacturers are undercut because of no tariffs and it's a reality that their products are hit with tariffs upon export to those same countries...

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22300059)

You are completely ignoring my posts with links and quotes from American manufacturers saying the exact opposite of you.

The only companies that are going to do well with Trump's tariffs are multibillion-dollar multinational corporations with multiple manufacturing facilities in multiple countries. Everyone else will have uncertainty, which will make them hold onto their money, stop hiring, stop expansion and layoff employees.

This is what the Companies are saying right now. Stop with your "what if" one sided propaganda bullshit.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22300059)

You are completely ignoring my posts with links and quotes from American manufacturers saying the exact opposite of you.

The only companies that are going to do well with Trump's tariffs are multibillion-dollar multinational corporations with multiple manufacturing facilities in multiple countries. Everyone else will have uncertainty, which will make them hold onto their money, stop hiring, stop expansion and layoff employees.

This is what the Companies are saying right now. Stop with your "what if" one sided propaganda bullshit.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22300068)

He's doing typical distraction arguments. Its same reason I always troll Robbie because it's all Robbie does as well. They know they are wrong but try to argue some other issue in attempt to win a argument.

It's a scammers argument. Not honest.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22300046)

Sorry onwebcam you are dead-wrong about all of this. This is a seriously fucked-up situation that is going to be bad for everyone.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22300073)

that´s what you should know already.

all this trump supporters have in common that they do not know how economy works.
so let them taste it.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22300073)

that´s what you should know already.

all this trump supporters have in common that they do not know how economy works.
so let them taste it.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22300073)

that´s what you should know already.

all this trump supporters have in common that they do not know how economy works.
so let them taste it.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300076)

If German car manufacturers will have to decide whether they rather sell to the US or to China and the rest of the world, that decision will not even take 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22300079)

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300080)

yes, my slightly retarded friend, laugh all you want. :glugglug

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22300083)

We shall see, my economic genius friend.

Bookmarked to see how Germany decides... :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300084)

Germany decides nothing, my dear. Because - unlike you and your folks seem to believe currently - corporations make their own decisions based on the economic conditions and regulations. And they usually go for maximum profit. That's why your Nikes are made in Bangladesh - for example.

But you will find out more soon.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22300087)

eu corps aren't in on voting for or against the $300B in tariffs eu leaders are threatening are they? that's all eu leaders

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300084)

Germany decides nothing, my dear. Because - unlike you and your folks seem to believe currently - corporations make their own decisions based on the economic conditions and regulations.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300089)

in case you are looking for who started threatening anyone here - the name is Trump

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22300090)

Oh, the corporations place their own tariffs - Germany and the EU will not be making any decisions in that regard? Got it.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22300091)

I'm fully aware he's a horrible person, I live here and have a brain and a conscience.

nevertheless, the reporting here is that eu leaders are threatening retaliatory tariffs = $300b, eu corps are not in one that .

here's one

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/02/eu-w...utomakers.html

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300092)

you really are retarded - or lack basic comprehension skills

I said that companies like BMW will move their jobs out of the US if tariffs threaten their profit.

And "Germany" will have nothing to do with that.

clearer now?

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300076)

If German car manufacturers will have to decide whether they rather sell to the US or to China and the rest of the world, that decision will not even take 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300094)

of course they will, why would they just bow to Trumps insanity?

and of course corporations don't want tariffs - and it's a long stading practice to avoid them.

but politics seems currently deaf to reasoning

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300092)

you really are retarded - or lack basic comprehension skills

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300092)

you really are retarded - or lack basic comprehension skills

I said that companies like BMW will move their jobs out of the US if tariffs threaten their profit.

And "Germany" will have nothing to do with that.

clearer now?

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22300096)

I quoted you, so I know what you said.



There it is again and that's what I LOL'd at.

The tolerant left - hurling insults when I did not insult him. This is why the left will lose.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22300102)

Merkel agrees with my cooler heads prevail strategy, let's see if she still has enough juice to guide eu

Germany Supports Lowering EU Car Import Tariffs, Says Merkel - The Drive

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300103)

please, read it again what I wrote, maybe slowly this time.

and in regards to insults... ask your other alt right friends on here for how long now they have been using words like libtard, cuck, snowflake etc

so pardon me, but go fuck yourself

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300105)

if you ask me: there should not be any tariffs or subsidies for anything anywhere.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22300101)

LOL they would increase their US production because of tariffs.. You wouldn't move your production out just so you could pay more tariffs.

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22300108)

You have some issues, my friend. Hate will only get you so far....

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22300111)

the interesting angle from here is it appears that there is not much unity among eu leaders. it seems questionable if merkel can even coordinate a bloc of like-minded eu leaders, let alone guide them.

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300113)

don't worry, I don't really hate anyone

here's a bunny to make you happy

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...Z-_400x400.jpg

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22300115)

if it was only that, now her own people started undermining her as well.

interesting times

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22299937)

your pizza service and newspaper boy will probably need one and then he needs more money. YOU PAY IT



good to know that you never use a plane or a fery.
but the meds you need every day are deliverd by them.
this delivery costs will go up

YOU PAY IT



also at commercial use for internet, telephone, TV and other things you might have.




they have been sold a lot but now they won´t.
maybe a few of their employees do have a subscription with you and can´t afford it anymore.
who do you think pays for them when they are without job?
YOU !



ok you are already ripped off with that - so to pay 20 or 30% more for your next medical check will not hurt you because you pay anyway 100 times too much already.



all is for commercial use - and all will have higher costs that YOU WILL PAY !

you are really unable to think from noon to 12 PM.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22299965)

Let's start with the very first one..... Don't plan on buying a new car with a diesel engine? Me either. But I'm guessing somewhere along the line nearly every product I've purchased was most likely transported by a truck with a diesel engine. Those new costs will be factored into everything you buy so.....

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22300140)

You are pretty fucking delusional, or totally out of touch with American reality.

Of course, you can always blame it on inability to translate English to your native tongue.

Do they really deliver newspapers and pizza by helicopter and ferries where you live?

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22300144)

They average over 1 million miles; it isn't like people are buying new semis all the time.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22300037)

A circuit board is 1 component of the entire product so the whole product cost doesn't increase... just pointing out the flaw in your scenario) Plus the fact that China as a whole undercuts US producers by around 40%.. 25% is actually low.. 40% puts them on an even playing field with US producers..

On the otherhand, a person in China gets hit with a tariff on a product from the US that already costs 40++% more to produce than in their own country.