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mark, the last thing an American needs is ca back up.
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Eight weeks should be sufficient time. Message me. |
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Last time I gave you links, proving you wrong, you left the thread and didn't respond. |
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and knock it off with your fake ca outrage over the word nazi. You've NOT ONCE even commented on your liberal colleague's rampant use of calling others nazis, let alone harassed and harangued them for it. that's why so many here know you're a hypocrite. Well, a big reason why, not the only reason. |
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This gets even worse.... Turns out Harley Davidson opened up a plan in Thailand because of Trump walked away from the Trans-Pacific Partnership free-trade agreement....
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mported-to-u-s This is a perfect example of what Trump is doing to hurt American businesses. First Harley Davidson has to build a plant in Asia because Trump killed the TTP, and now because of tariffs it has to build plants in Europe. This exactly what happens when you walk away from trade agreements and start trade wars with our allies. Harley Davidson is already having issues. There is a good chance it will go under because of Trump's policies. |
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What a difference a few days makes. It turns out there is no law, and it was a policy, and it was quickly fixed by a single order from Trump. (Which of course only led to more confusion.) It's no difference here. Baddog is trying to spin this like "Oh, Haley Davidson made this announcement to close a plant months ago". Well, sort of. The announced they were going to shut down a plant and open a new one in Asia because Trump left the TTP, and now we have ANOTHER announcement that they are opening up a new plant in Europe because of Trump's trade war. Trump's policies are destroying an American icon. |
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I disagree 100% with trump on how he negotiates trade but let's not jump to conclusions and say there's a "good chance" H-D will go under. |
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Last year Trump did quite a few media events with Harley Davidson showcasing them as a prime example of an American company that's going to flurish under his policies. Now that Trump's policies are failing companies that are not multibillion-dollar multinational conglomerates he's distancing himself from Harley and others and labeling them traitors. |
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According to H-D official press release H-D had been planning on closing the Wisconsin plant and opening the thailand plant since 2015, way before trump bailed on tpp: Additionally, Harley-Davidson announced in 2017 that it would be opening a manufacturing plant in Thailand. However, Harley said at the time that the decision was made to better serve the burgeoning market in southeast Asia, and that the decision would not affect manufacturing in the United States: The Thailand facility “will allow us to be more responsive and competitive in the ASEAN region and China,” Harley-Davidson public relations manager Katie Whitmore said. “Increased access and affordability for our customers in the region is key to growth for the company in total,” she said. “There is no intent to reduce H-D U.S. manufacturing due to this expansion.” The plant would let Milwaukee-based Harley-Davidson avoid Thailand’s up to 60 percent tariff on imported motorcycles and help it get tax breaks when exporting to Thailand’s neighbors, thanks to a trade arrangement among members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nation (ASEAN). https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN18L0DA https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ha...steel-tariffs/ |
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I sincerely hope HD doesn't go under - I don't think they will. Their move to make parts in the EU, Thailand etc is a good move for them. And I ribbed Vendy on his made-in-China shirt earlier but of course this is a smart move for 'Davidson. If a company can same money outsourcing, then they should do it. If the govermnets can make it easier or cheaper to manufacture goods in the US (Or Canada!) they should do that too, or else stop promising jobs in their campaign speeches. |
mark, all that fancy posting split stuff is too much. Can you put it all in proper format? normal folks post normal.
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another official H-D announcement that shows they were making these moves prior to trump [bailing out on tpp].
"However, these items are not directly related. In fact, Harley has planned on consolidating production at the Kansas City plant since 2015, before Trump was even in office; when the company made the announcement, it said that it was due to slowing motorcycle sales: Harley-Davidson’s sales fell sharply in 2017 and the company will move ahead with a plan to consolidate manufacturing operations, including the closure of its Kansas City, Mo. plant. The world’s largest maker of heavyweight motorcycles has struggled to reverse a four-year sales slide, with growth overseas somewhat helping offset a decline in the U.S. bike market." |
Sucks for those HD workers who voted for Chump and now are jobless
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Hd is overrated.
I prefer prius lol |
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Harley Davidson makes bikes for "outlaws", which was hip, cool, and trendy in the 1960s and 1970s. It's sort of like how truck drivers were considered cool in the 1970s. That era is long gone, and Harley Davidson failed to modernize. They just don't make motorcycles that millennials are interested in. I never understood Harley Davidson - at all. Just not a fan. I grew up riding dirt bikes and trikes and then motorcycles, and love the freedom and the feeling a motorcycle gives you. Riding down the highway at 65 MPH sitting upright like you are sitting in an office chair isn't what I call fun. Fun on a motorcycle is tucking in nice and tight on a bike so you feel like one with the bike, hitting those curves at speed.... Harley Davidson just doesn't invoke excitement with younger generations. |
"Only losers that don't bathe buy Harley Davidson motorcycles. I prefer people that bathe." - Trump
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educate yourself before you talk bullshit like always EU tariffs on motorcycle have been 6% while the other way round EU exporters ALWAYS paid over 30% into usa. so the dumb one is you and you are the biggest NAZI here - but nobody cares because you are just a worm in your own ass. you can praise trump as long as you want - it will not make him smart or a president. and it will not prove you smart or make you part of the human race. Let the booze out of your drunken skull, you bum. |
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Harley was has been working on merging their Kansas City plant with their York, Pa. plant since 2015. Now they're forced to move it to Thailand because of Trump's trade war. "To further improve its manufacturing operations and cost structure, in the first quarter of 2018 the company commenced its previously announced multi-year manufacturing optimization initiative anchored by the consolidation of its motorcycle assembly plant in Kansas City, Mo. into its plant in York, Pa." Harley-Davidson Announces First Quarter Results |
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now trump wants to put tariffs on cars and the EU will do the same. what a lot of people do not know is that MERCEDES and BMW are having factories in USA already but they also export to Europe from there. that means: 1. this companies will not pay any tariff inside USA but they will face tariffs selling this cars back to their homeland. means: they will produce LESS cars there. 2. As this cars are also build in Germany and other European Countries - the production for Europe will increase here. and who lost the jobs ? help me ! |
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Standing by for Mark to harass and harangue dumb nazi thommy for calling me a nazi.
Any minute now.......... |
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You gave no link to your data. I gave a link to my data. Stop lying and twisting truths to support a morbidly obese lying conman. |
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You can't actually believe adults can't see that. Simple. |
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Wow, you are thoroughly confused. |
A valiant effort, dyna mo - and 100% predictably wasted.
He thinks you are a Trump supporter. I've asked before - what does that tell you about his ability to read, interpret and comprehend? |
I tell ya what mark. I'm American and in the spirit of America I'll suggest a truce.
If he agrees to stop his vitriolic hate he spews on American GFYers, I'll agree to stop calling him nazi thommy for doing so. I still reserve the right to call him dumb for his ridiculous economy lectures though. no apologies or hugs needed. |
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See those lines of letters at the bottom of my post I'm quoting? Those are called links. you hover your mouse thingie over them and click to read.
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