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Old 05-14-2018, 05:31 PM   #1
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Anyone Can Use a Starbucks Bathroom Now

Anyone Can Use a Starbucks Bathroom Now

New policy comes in the wake of Philadelphia racist fiasco

In the wake of last month’s racial bias incident, in which two black men were arrested for simply sitting down and waiting in a Philadelphia location, Starbucks plans to make some changes. Perhaps unexpectedly, clarification around the coffee chain’s bathroom policy seems to be chief among them.

This week, executive chairman Howard Schultz stated that Starbucks’ bathrooms will be open to anyone who needs to use them going forward, regardless of whether or not they’ve purchased anything. “We don't want anyone at Starbucks to feel as if we are not giving access to you to the bathroom because you are less than. We want you to be more than," Schultz told attendees at an Atlantic Council event in Washington.

The new open-door policy is an attempt to remove the pretext that ultimately led the arrests of Rashon Nelson and Donte Robinson. The two were denied access to the bathroom because they weren’t paying customers, and the store’s manager called the police shortly thereafter. The two were initially arrested for trespassing, though no charges were ultimately filed.

Of course, Schultz is wary of Starbucks becoming synonymous with “free public bathroom”, but he sees the move as a necessary step to univeralize what had been a store-by-store policy that went “absolutely wrong in every way” on that day in Philadelphia.

“The first thing we want to make sure is that regardless of your station in life, the color of your skin, your sexual orientation, your gender, your ethnic background—everyone is welcome at Starbucks,” Schultz said.

The decision comes shortly after an earnings call suggested that the racist episode in Philadelphia—just one of many such regrettable incidents to make the headlines in recent weeks—won’t even affect Starbucks’ bottom line. In addition to the new bathroom policy, 8,000 Starbucks locations nationwide will also be shut down on the afternoon of May 29 for racial sensitivity training.
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Ridiculous.
They’re kissing ass to save face. Many food establishments have signs that bathrooms are for customers only.

I learned today, coincidentally, that doctors can issue “bathroom privilege” laminated cards. They state the person is under medical care and must use the bathroom when needed. “Please allow the cardholder access to your bathroom if you don’t allow the public to use the facilities.”

It was shown on tv but I don’t remember the show.
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I've noticed nothing different at my local Starbucks, then again I rarely find it necessary to use a public facility at a coffee shop as my house is 2 blocks away
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So allowing anyone to use the restroom at your public coffee shop is kissing ass, not common decency?
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So allowing anyone to use the restroom at your public coffee shop is kissing ass, not common decency?
It's a business and using the restroom costs money. It's their right to decide. It's kind of funny lefty Starbucks got bit by this. Hopefully more places don't bend to this PC shit. Next thing it will be a crime to call the police on blacks, regardless if they're committing a crime or not.
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In the wake of last month’s racial bias incident, in which two black men were arrested for simply sitting down and waiting in a Philadelphia location
What racist fiasco? What racial bias? Why is it reported as fact that it was motivated by skin color while it was obviously not?

This is what's wrong with todays media hype playing the race card whenever someone happens to have black skin.... now THAT is truly racist.
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So allowing anyone to use the restroom at your public coffee shop is kissing ass, not common decency?
Common decency costs money. If they let everyone use the bathroom, then they need more cleaning, more paper towels and toilet paper, more soap and more electricity and water bills.

My father had IBS and had to go when traveling. He’d stop at McDonald’s or Burger King and buy nothing usually. At fifteen I told him he was rude and to bring his own toilet paper!

They need pay toilets with paying customer getting a free pass or a quarter to use the restroom. It would cut down on theft of restroom supplies!

When my father had his business, the bathroom was downstairs and you’d pass inventory, running the lngth of the building, about one city block. He’d not let anyone use the facilities unlike he knew them well. Otherwise, merchandise would walk out with them.

Starbucks is kissing ass nd making nice.
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So allowing anyone to use the restroom at your public coffee shop is kissing ass, not common decency?
Sorry it's a private business not some government building. Starbucks had no balls and threw the girl under the bus. You want to buy something great if not then leave. The person says no, youre supposed to just say OK, it a private business and but don't want to upset you. It's bullshit.
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I'm curious how they will handle the homeless.

Austin has a very large homeless population, they are spread out around the city but downtown you cannot walk a block without having at least one homeless person ask for money or cigarettes. Downtown is not a slum, plenty of nice areas. Starbucks all over the place. Those Starbucks will be used by the homeless. Could be difficult keeping clean and/or deter business.
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I'm curious how they will handle the homeless.

Austin has a very large homeless population, they are spread out around the city but downtown you cannot walk a block without having at least one homeless person ask for money or cigarettes. Downtown is not a slum, plenty of nice areas. Starbucks all over the place. Those Starbucks will be used by the homeless. Could be difficult keeping clean and/or deter business.
But they will be happy. It's a private businesses responsibility now to provide restroom services to all.
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But they will be happy. It's a private businesses responsibility now to provide restroom services to all.
Tony you are becoming less and less liberal as you age!
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Tony you are becoming less and less liberal as you age!
LOL no its just I'm not tied to one ideology. I have also been in Starbucks, with homeless sleeping in chairs and people camping out at a table using their electricity and wifi and not buying shit.Some have the balls to bring snacks from home. Lol
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In a civilized society this is common. Taking shits or pissing in the street isn't something condoned here in America.
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In a civilized society this is common. Taking shits or pissing in the street isn't something condoned here in America.
I'm from NYC, it wasnt common at all. Also maybe it was the way I was raised, I go into a place of business I buy something if I want to use their restroom. I'm using their resources.
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In a civilized society, it's common sense not to stay on one's private property or place of business and use a toilet there without a permission / unless you buy something (which grants you the permission).

This is civilized.

What is not civilized is loitering, refusing to leave, piling demands and screaming 'racism' after being asked to leave and refusing to do so. That is not civilized.

Add the fact that there was a lawyer involved from the day one and they got a fat payout from Starbucks already within 3 - 4 weeks. So either these guys are bright legal minds that immediately figured out their options and decided they have a case (they do not but a race card is in place), or there's more that we don't know about.

This is a very dangerous precedent, it starts with free toilets, then there will be demands to hire more "minorities", quotas, they'll be bullied to put more money to 'minority' charities etc. etc. mark my words.

Where will it end - free coffee and sandwiches for blacks on a black history month? or Al Sharpton as a CEO renaming the brand to "Blackbucks"?

It's a never ending circle of race baiting racket, allowed by the gullible, naively stupid, and diminishing 'majority', and it pays well.
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well why entice people in with free wi-fi? how much of a loser do you have to be to police a fucking restroom???!!
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In a civilized society, it's common sense not to stay on one's private property or place of business and use a toilet there without a permission / unless you buy something (which grants you the permission).

This is civilized.

What is not civilized is loitering, refusing to leave, piling demands and screaming 'racism' after being asked to leave and refusing to do so. That is not civilized.

Add the fact that there was a lawyer involved from the day one and they got a fat payout from Starbucks already within 3 - 4 weeks. So either these guys are bright legal minds that immediately figured out their options and decided they have a case (they do not but a race card is in place), or there's more that we don't know about.

This is a very dangerous precedent, it starts with free toilets, then there will be demands to hire more "minorities", quotas, they'll be bullied to put more money to 'minority' charities etc. etc. mark my words.

Where will it end - free coffee and sandwiches for blacks on a black history month, or Al Sharpton as a CEO renaming the brand to "Blackbucks"?

It's a never ending circle of race baiting racket, allowed by the gullible, stupid and diminishing 'majority', and it pays well.
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In this case yes. And wait until the cost of that coffee goes up.
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In this case yes. And wait until the cost of that coffee goes up.
prices go up? I almost have to take out a loan to buy it now.
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So wait, starbucks only allows paying customers to enter the bathroom.
2 non paying customers were denied bathroom because of that policy, but somehow libby media managed to twist that they were denied because of race?

What kind of insanity level is that?
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Why don't you put a sign on your doorstep saying "Free Restroom Access" and see what happens?

Dumbass libshit retard.
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2 non paying customers were denied bathroom because of that policy, but somehow libby media managed to twist that they were denied because of race?

What kind of insanity level is that?
you are not even based here. act like a little bitch did you see any report of 911 being called on this lady throwing shit??? she got away! no arrest yet.
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Its just going to become a junkie shoot up lounge now. And it sucks when you actually have to use the bathroom, but some fucking junkie is in there shooting up and stinking up the place.
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Its just going to become a junkie shoot up lounge now. And it sucks when you actually have to use the bathroom, but some fucking junkie is in there shooting up and stinking up the place.
I also feel bad for the staff ,that will have to deal with the mess.
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Its just going to become a junkie shoot up lounge now. And it sucks when you actually have to use the bathroom, but some fucking junkie is in there shooting up and stinking up the place.
Exactly. Expect Starbucks to become a place where random folks loaf around. What a way to scare off paying customers.

This is actually GOOD NEWS... for local mom and pop cafes.
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I'm from NYC, it wasnt common at all. Also maybe it was the way I was raised, I go into a place of business I buy something if I want to use their restroom. I'm using their resources.
Got it. According to you, where you live in NYC people have to pay businesses otherwise they shit & piss in the streets. That sucks for you. I've never lived in places like that, they aren't people friendly. Bad vibes.

I don't like using restrooms in public businesses but when my kid has really had to go money has never had to change hands. If someone told me to pay them so my kid could shit in their toilet instead of their floor I'd laugh.
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Got it. According to you, where you live in NYC people have to pay businesses otherwise they shit & piss in the streets. That sucks for you. I've never lived in places like that, they aren't people friendly. Bad vibes.

I don't like using restrooms in public businesses but when my kid has really had to go money has never had to change hands. If someone told me to pay them so my kid could shit in their toilet instead of their floor I'd laugh.
For someone that's allegedly "fiscally conservative," you're pretty liberal with other private businesses' resources
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For someone that's allegedly "fiscally conservative," you're pretty liberal with other private businesses' resources
Private businesses in public spaces is a social issue and I'm socially liberal.

If I owned a business off of public walkway that had to be open to the public by law during business hours all most businesses do that are open to the public, I would know that part of the cost of doing business is having a restroom open to the public and cleaning up shit off the walls from the freaks that randomly will do that.

It's called doing good business and someone has to clean those fucking bathrooms anyway.

If you want to get rid of people get rid of people for loitering or being a public nuisance or whatever. But taking a shit in a toilet is a human decency thing and people should be allowed to do that it's basic.
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Got it. According to you, where you live in NYC people have to pay businesses otherwise they shit & piss in the streets. That sucks for you. I've never lived in places like that, they aren't people friendly. Bad vibes.

I don't like using restrooms in public businesses but when my kid has really had to go money has never had to change hands. If someone told me to pay them so my kid could shit in their toilet instead of their floor I'd laugh.
Every single civilized city i've been in all over the world, cafes, coffeeshops and restaurants restrooms are for customers only, often they have signs saying exactly that. It is not public property. It's private property where a business is ran in, so they make the rules and it's pretty logical you don't want to make a pigsty of your toilet by making it a free for all for every bum to shit on and shoot up in. Exceptions to this are only the depressing US fastfood franchises like Mcdonalds, which have the disgusting toilets to match that policy. You cannot compare these shitty billion dollar company franchises to regular local places.

As for the particular situation you describe, any of these local places would make an exception to their rule for your kid. Why? Because you'll be dealing with humans.
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2 non paying customers were denied bathroom because of that policy, but somehow libby media managed to twist that they were denied because of race?

What kind of insanity level is that?
They said they’d buy but were waiting for someone. Guess they like hot coffee when they talk.
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Every single civilized city i've been in all over the world, cafes, coffeeshops and restaurants restrooms are for customers only, often they have signs saying exactly that. It is not public property. It's private property where a business is ran in, so they make the rules and it's pretty logical you don't want to make a pigsty of your toilet by making it a free for all for every bum to shit on and shoot up in. Exceptions to this are only the depressing US fastfood franchises like Mcdonalds, which have the disgusting toilets to match that policy. You cannot compare these shitty billion dollar company franchises to regular local places.

As for the particular situation you describe, any of these local places would make an exception to their rule for your kid. Why? Because you'll be dealing with humans.
You're not American

You don't live in America.

I'm American.

I live in America.

Again, you're trying to tell me how my life is in my country like you know better , just like you do with American politics.

I have no idea what you people look like or how you people dress or act but I've never been told "give me money to shit in my toilet" ever from a business. I don't know anybody with any Common Sense who just walks into a random business and ask to shit in their toilet you always do that with a place that you're a patron of. Half the places I go to here know me by name ( Mr. Powers ) and I'm greated with a smile.

Maybe you guys dress like bumbs and are stinky and look like drug addicts and walk into establishments with skanky hookers and and the only people who know you by name at the local cops and that's why you get treated differently?
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:03 AM   #37
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They said they’d buy but were waiting for someone. Guess they like hot coffee when they talk.
Again, where is race relevance?

You have to buy to use restroom, not say you will buy.
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Old 05-20-2018, 01:44 PM   #38
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Again, where is race relevance?

You have to buy to use restroom, not say you will buy.
There wasn’t a sign stating it was for customer use only. If they say they’ll order once their guest arrives, you take them at their word.
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You're not American

You don't live in America.

I'm American.

I live in America.

Again, you're trying to tell me how my life is in my country like you know better , just like you do with American politics.

I have no idea what you people look like or how you people dress or act but I've never been told "give me money to shit in my toilet" ever from a business. I don't know anybody with any Common Sense who just walks into a random business and ask to shit in their toilet you always do that with a place that you're a patron of. Half the places I go to here know me by name ( Mr. Powers ) and I'm greated with a smile.

Maybe you guys dress like bumbs and are stinky and look like drug addicts and walk into establishments with skanky hookers and and the only people who know you by name at the local cops and that's why you get treated differently?
Ha ha ha ga ha ha
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I quit my Dollar General job a couple of months ago. Anybody could use the bathroom. Fairly common for drug deals to happen in there.

Footprints on the toilet seat, moved ceiling tiles, the wrap around the hoses under the sing were pulled open.

Also if the cops showed up, We would sometimes find where people stashed drugs.

There are your tips for finding free drugs today. Have fun.
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