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02-15-2018, 06:49 PM | #1 |
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The fact that you think the govt listens to you because of your guns is laughable. The best countries in the world are operated without the constant threat of violence on all sides.
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Did gun murders go down in Australia after the gun grab? Yes.
And now they have more robberies, burglaries, & violent crime.
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Native Americans didn't have firearms? Since when?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/native...stole-that-too
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Guns don't kill people. People kill people. The problem is not guns. Criminals will get guns illegally even if they're banned. Banning guns will only take them away from ordinary citizens who want and deserve to protect themselves. The problem that should be addressed IS mentally unstable people WITH guns. The problem will get progressively worse with mentally unstable people who have access to guns and abundant legalized marijuana.
Pay attention to people with serious mental health issues, get them the medical help they need, take away their guns, rescind legalization of marijuana and the number of massacres will subside.
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Marijuana is a gateway drug that leads people to more serious addictions with meth, crack, cocaine, heroin, etc...
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Hey Acepimp. By all means, keep getting your "facts" from Internet Memes. God forbid you should actually lift a finger to do some research and make yourself sleepy.
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The state I'm in NSW has 915,000 registered firearms, 7.5 million population, so 1 in 8 people own a gun.. Gun laws were never about taking peoples guns away, they were about getting rid of old guns that end up on the black market, and ensuring guns don't get into the hands of those that shouldn't have them.. people like yourself I'd believe. The laws also strengthened how guns should be stowed, registered. Getting a gun here is a privilege, not a right, and there's the major difference to the USA. Vast majority of citizens here want stricter guns laws than we already have. |
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Most people who want stricter gun control laws don't want guns banned, they just want a system put in place to make it harder for those who are mentally ill or violent to get guns.
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People are so ready to give up rights they dont agree with, idiots all.
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Much like guns in the hands of people with no issues marijuana doesn't really do harm but it can have adverse effects on people who are bipolar or schizophrenic. Just like how millions of people can have caffeine with no issue but it can make the manic side if bipolar disorder much worse.
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To understand gun violence and crime (the recent Florida school massacre, for example), a great analogy is to understand bullies.
The typical bully acts as a bully because they feel they're in a guaranteed win situation, or at least a guaranteed extreme advantage situation. Someone with a gun in a tightly-crowded area of people with no guns, well the person with the gun is at an extreme advantage. Free to kill anyone, everyone, or as many as they possibly can...all on a whim. Here's the thing about the typical bully, though. When put in a fair confrontation, the bully becomes terrified. The bully will shit bricks when he realizes he's in a fight where the outcome is not pretty much guaranteed. For example, his crew of friends who are normally there to step in and help him win any fight, are no longer there and he's in the situation completely on his own. Bullies detest being in a situation where they don't have a guaranteed win. The same analogy works with gun violence. In the video below, 3 armed men break into a woman's house. Guaranteed win, right? They're free to rob her, beat her, gang rape her to death, torture her to death, basically whatever their whim at the moment happens to be. What they didn't expect, though, is that the woman happens to be a gun owner. Well, there's still 3 of them and their 3 guns, verses her and her one gun. Still a great advantage, right? Wrong. Back to the bully analogy, the outcome is suddenly no longer guaranteed. Even though the 3 criminals with guns outnumber her, the confrontation is still too equal for them to even want to be in the situation anymore. As badass and hardcore as they were only seconds before, they run around like cartoon characters or the 3 Stooges or the Marx Brothers. They're simply terrified and are shitting bricks at the very thought of being in an even somewhat fair confrontation. Don't take my word for it. Watch this original home security video. See for yourself. https://youtu.be/hFRP2N0g47I Now with all this in mind, I beg you to lobby your state representatives for stricter gun control to get firearms out of the hands of people like this woman. She actually ended up killing one of those helpless men. Who knows what contributions he would have made to society, had this woman not so callously snuffed out his life. Hillary 2020, 4 more years!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland 2. don´t compare people of a real democratic country in which every citizen is not only well informed but also has political responsibility with the US. if you do not kniw it yet, I will tell you that in switzerland are no lawmakers. politicians can´t decide for NOTHING. the voters decide it nearly every month. here a few famous public votes from the past: speed limit on streets - voted yes lowering taxes - voted NO increasing minimum wages - voted NO increasing holidays - voted NO decreasing VAT - voted NO tightening the weapons laws - voted YES Promotion of renewable energies and nuclear phase-out - voted YES i could tell you a few hundred more but it would not make you wiser and you would still not understand why this country is (with all it´s immigrants) in best condition. |
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Would that not mean that beer is a gateway drink ? And if we banned beer then we would solve all forms of addiction starting with alcoholism ?
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Ok so you are against gun control of any kind right ? Even though the recent school shooting (as are most similar acts) carried out using legal weapons. So what about a couple of suggestions : a) Raise the age that you can buy or posses a gun to 21. I mean come on - you can buy and own an AR15 but you cannot order a beer ? b) Make it mandatory to have a mental health cert to buy / own a gun. You cannot hold a driving licence unless you are in full control of your mind, but you can own / buy as many AR15s as you want ? Just trying to bring a couple of sensible suggestions to the table.....
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It may not stop every shooting like we saw this week because if someone really wants to get a gun they'll find a way, but making the process super rigid could sway a couple of killers to scrap their plan because they don't want to put in the effort. Why make it easy for them?
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the solution is simple: ban schools!
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don´t you have a doctor in charge to get a driving license ? don´t you need one if you want to drive taxi ? don´t you need a medical test when you are working in a kitchen? what about military ? they usually have weapons - no doctor in charge ??? maybe you should think first and post after ! |
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Raise the age to 21, and prove you are sane before you can own or buy a gun. Do you think either of those is a good idea ? If not, why not ?
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Or stupid to raise the age to 21 ? Or will you just say “thats stoopid” to any suggestion whatsoever. We all know its the latter. Your conditioning is very thorough. Captain predictable.
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it is a total civil rights issue, the guys that want to ban guns will never allow any personally invasive test that would handicap a person or otherwise point out their mental stability... so that the mentally ill can be 'offered treatment' ask rochard if he would take that test... let me ask you instead, what is the obligation of an individual to society? are we each obligated to give up some civil rights to assure each other that we are mentally fit to participate in society? that's a really fun question, isn't it |
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then the police go visit your neighbors and ask around what type of person you are...they check if you have ever been involved in any violent crime...you also need to attend shooting lessons... then at their discretion they give you a license to own but not carry a gun...if you want a license to carry you have to prove that you are in danger...then you may get a carry license for 6 months...maybe...and after the 6 months pass you have to go to the police again and prove that you are still in danger...or that you need the gun for work and if you need it for work then you have to be in a bona fide security agency or a guard at some bona fide institution and MAYBE they will give you a carry license... it is extremely hard to get shot in my country...3 mass shootings in the last 16 years total...the USA averages almost 1/day...
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I have never considered buying a gun...there is no reason to own one...
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There you go - gun control is not so hard to countenance afterall is it. Not sure what you are talking about regarding the regulation of inanimate objects. Society does this all the time. We have laws against driving whilst drunk. We are not regulating inanimate objects (cars) we are regulating who is allowed to drive them. Likewise regulating who is fit or otherwise to own or purchase a firearm is regulating standards of competence and behaviour and clearly not regulating inamimate objects. Crazy people are not allowed to drive. In fact crazy people have all manner of ?rights? restricted. I cannot believe that you are really saying that you are completely in favour of arming the crazies, and that a person with a recognised mental illness, who is intent on causing death or injury, should be allowed to buy an A R fucking 15.:
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do you see how old these pics are?
the weapon law in switzerland changed in the meantime 3 times. weapon in public ??? NO WAY !!! you can not even carry a hammer in public there if you can not prove to need it. asspimp lives in another century and he does not even care to bring "facts" on the table what have not been facts anymore when he was born. this guy is so fucking terrible brainwashed and dumb - he deserves a place in the guiness book of records |
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a gun is an inanimate object an inanimate object does not make decisions or take actions we both agree that the issue is mental illness. so you decide to discuss the boundaries and regulations concerning an inanimate object as the answer to controlling mental illness. I'm not trying to be a dick but why talk about the unrelated issue. do you feel better about being fucked up by a nut if they don't use a gun? lock down the schools this afternoon, start sorting out the nuts tomorrow. anything other than that is well... just bullshit on a forum or in the press to me. why would I want to discuss it? |
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Shit.... I agree with AssChimp .... Wow .
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Do you think Trump should divert some of that 800 Billion for the Military to providing security for schools it would only take a fraction of it? Government has the money to put armed guards in every school tomorrow.
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I've also read the all drugs laws are racially motivated.
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You're not required to get a mental exam to drive a car in California, hell you don't even have to be a citizen Uber doesn't require a mental exam You think a mental exam has been made on every cook that's working out there? I was in the military, never once did I have a mental exam. I had more exams than most! So maybe you should shut the fuck up before speaking of shit you haven't a clue about
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I love how the liberals first response to violence is to take away peoples ability to protect themselves, fucking stupid!
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It's much more difficult to get a driver's license than it is to purchase a firearm. My daughter took six month class in high school, hours of drive time with a professional driver, countless hours practicing, then took a test, then had to get insurance, and the end result is she has a limited license until she is eighteen. Why don't we do the same with firearm owners?
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