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EliteWebmaster 02-01-2018 07:39 PM

I have been telling people for years, Bitcoin was and is a ponzi pyramid scheme. An elaborate one as it was able to last for so long which is impressive. But nonetheless it was just that...a scheme. There was no way it could continue with it's insane spike from last year.

Ask yourself the most basic question, what would makes this currency spike to ungodly values as it has in the last year? The answer is manipulation and falsifying the value of a currency that is theoretically unsustainable when other conventional currencies US dollar/Yen/Sterling/Euro cannot increase in value at the rate that Bitcoin was doing. And those currencies have been around for ages, they are trusted currencies that are traded worldwide. If you can wrap your head around that, you will know that Bitcoin and all these Crytocurrencies are a scheme. And like all schemes, eventually the bubble will burst and you will see a sharp downward spike like you are starting to see with Bitcoin.

All the bitcoin nuthuggers and experts cannot give you a legitimate reason why the currency has taken a tumble because they are either in denial or they are in on the scheme. The whole "everyone was withdrawing money for the holidays" excuse Crytocurrency experts was giving for the devaluation during the christmas/new years holidays doesn't fly because it's still dropping like a brick now. Considering a lot of people are still foolish enough to invest more money into Bitcoin now thinking it will rise again. Shouldn't the Bitcoin be rising in value then from all of the "new" money coming in vs the money that is being withdrawn? Or at the very least, the devaluation should be slower rather than the rapid decline we are seeing now?

Use common sense and you will always see why guys like Jerry Jones, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey have not poured their networth into Bitcoin. If there is one thing Billionaires love is to make more money yet, they are not foolish enough to buy into the Bitcoin hype...ask yourself why..

_Richard_ 02-02-2018 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22189351)

my god i recognize that

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...07/shivers.gif

pimpmaster9000 02-02-2018 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 22189809)
experts cannot give you a legitimate reason why the currency has taken a tumble.

yes but the oracle can...

it is mostly a combination of 2 factors...

the first was the obvious skyrocket in price...smart people cash out

the second and more important reason was "institutional money" or larger investors got in around summer to take the money from the "hodlers" with a pump and dump...

the drop in price started around the 20th of december...trump announced the tax cuts around this period and the writing was on the wall: US stocks will make a short term gain and are a safe bet...so they started cashing out while the sheep were like "BTC will hit 50K in january" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the market is designed to take money from the crowds and distribute it to the few...if you do what everybody else is doing you will get what everybody else is getting = fucked...unless you invest in something that has actual intrinsic value, then this will go up and down and up again...

at some point bitcoin will become too cheap to ignore and people will buy in again...8.5K just got breached and the europeans just woke up and they are well known bears...I see a possible 7K by monday but I can not be sure it is so hard to call it right now...sub 400 billion total crypto market cap at the moment...

sweet sweet deals on shitcoins...I want to die for not knowing about digixDAO earlier...mother fucker is up 60%+ in a week...I am not cashing out next time if the DAO keeps kicking ass...

InfoGuy 02-02-2018 03:19 AM

Bloomberg TV just said based on technical analysis, the next stop for Bitcoin is the 7000 handle. Commentary to follow at 6:02am EST.


armysmoke 02-02-2018 03:23 AM

BTC is currently at $8,165.

thommy 02-02-2018 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22189447)
It was pretty obvious it was a bubble.
Did you all not see my posts from 1k to over 15k

Anyone with a brain would realise that shit wasn't normal behavior.
Sure there were a lot of people rubbing there hands together thinking they were going to be rich and some of the sensible ones actually sold before it went under 12k

VERY TRUE !!!
they also wanted to stone me when i told the at the highest point that this is now the change.

i mean it will not crash completely but it will go back to where a public gambling can be.
5- 10 dollars or something like that.

InfoGuy 02-02-2018 04:09 AM

Nouriel Roubini on Bloomberg TV just said "Bitcoin is the mother of all bubbles.", "Bitcoin is worse than tulip mania." and "Cryptocurrencies are a scam.".

InfoGuy 02-02-2018 04:12 AM

"Bitcoin is the biggest Ponzi scheme in human history."
"All these people are charlatans, swindlers."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVBpY1CX0AAcu3S.jpg:large

Rubyconne 02-02-2018 04:15 AM

Isn't it the time to buy then? It might grow again.

Smack dat 02-02-2018 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubyconne (Post 22190183)
Isn't it the time to buy then? It might grow again.

Yes, yes it is although you might want to wait a little longer.

Klen 02-02-2018 04:38 AM

I do not agree with statement how it's ponzi scheme. Most accurate description of crypto bubble would
be "stock hype" where stock value can skyrocket due "promising company organization" but once reality come stock value drop to minimum and people who bought when it was hype lose money.
Stocks and crypto is based on same principle, with only difference how stock price can be affected by company business moves. Funny how you mention Bill Gates, since microsoft accept bitcoin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 22189809)
I have been telling people for years, Bitcoin was and is a ponzi pyramid scheme. An elaborate one as it was able to last for so long which is impressive. But nonetheless it was just that...a scheme. There was no way it could continue with it's insane spike from last year.

Ask yourself the most basic question, what would makes this currency spike to ungodly values as it has in the last year? The answer is manipulation and falsifying the value of a currency that is theoretically unsustainable when other conventional currencies US dollar/Yen/Sterling/Euro cannot increase in value at the rate that Bitcoin was doing. And those currencies have been around for ages, they are trusted currencies that are traded worldwide. If you can wrap your head around that, you will know that Bitcoin and all these Crytocurrencies are a scheme. And like all schemes, eventually the bubble will burst and you will see a sharp downward spike like you are starting to see with Bitcoin.

All the bitcoin nuthuggers and experts cannot give you a legitimate reason why the currency has taken a tumble because they are either in denial or they are in on the scheme. The whole "everyone was withdrawing money for the holidays" excuse Crytocurrency experts was giving for the devaluation during the christmas/new years holidays doesn't fly because it's still dropping like a brick now. Considering a lot of people are still foolish enough to invest more money into Bitcoin now thinking it will rise again. Shouldn't the Bitcoin be rising in value then from all of the "new" money coming in vs the money that is being withdrawn? Or at the very least, the devaluation should be slower rather than the rapid decline we are seeing now?

Use common sense and you will always see why guys like Jerry Jones, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey have not poured their networth into Bitcoin. If there is one thing Billionaires love is to make more money yet, they are not foolish enough to buy into the Bitcoin hype...ask yourself why..


Klen 02-02-2018 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22190149)
VERY TRUE !!!
they also wanted to stone me when i told the at the highest point that this is now the change.

i mean it will not crash completely but it will go back to where a public gambling can be.
5- 10 dollars or something like that.

People who invested while it was 15k-20k was stupid, because even for bitcoin standards that was unrealisticly too fast growth.If that growth was going slowly during entire year and not in a single month, then it would be more stable.

BaldBastard 02-02-2018 04:45 AM

It's just smashed thru the 8k mark dropping like a lead brick BOOM

Miguel T 02-02-2018 04:45 AM

Good time to buy some more :)

InfoGuy 02-02-2018 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22190197)
I do not agree with statement how it's ponzi scheme. Most accurate description of crypto bubble would
be "stock hype" where stock value can skyrocket due "promising company organization" but once reality come stock value drop to minimum and people who bought when it was hype lose money.
Stocks and crypto is based on same principle, with only difference how stock price can be affected by company business moves. Funny how you mention Bill Gates, since microsoft accept bitcoin.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Stocks (usually) represent shares in companies that have sales, profits and various assets with a tangible value. The intrinisic value of crypto is zero. When Bitcoin was at its $19k+ peak, its market value was absurd and greater than Walmart, the biggest retailer in the world.

Klen 02-02-2018 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22190213)
You're comparing apples and oranges. Stocks (usually) represent shares in companies that have sales, profits and various assets with a tangible value. The intrinisic value of crypto is zero. When Bitcoin was at its $19k+ peak, its market value was absurd and greater than Walmart, the biggest retailer in the world.

That still does not change fact how stock value can skyrocket for no other reason but hype.
But i know what you saying here , how crypto does not have a "base" value when you remove value caused by hype. But the thing is, bitcoin was supposed to be an alternative payment system, not a investment currency.

NatalieK 02-02-2018 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22190201)
It's just smashed thru the 8k mark dropping like a lead brick BOOM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Miguel (Post 22190203)
Good time to buy some more :)

it could crash to 10, whereīs the base value?


You canīt buy until itīs levelled out, youīd be mental to buy now with it dropping out so much :helpme

overdose 02-02-2018 05:16 AM

good thing I sold my eth still on 1100 yesterday

Hurzfurz 02-02-2018 05:18 AM

stop crying about cryptos.
i am sure for all of you it was not your last money you invest.

Goethe 02-02-2018 05:19 AM

Ripple is down to 70c :Oh crap

Hurzfurz 02-02-2018 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22190235)
Ripple is down to 70c :Oh crap

and the next one who is crying

Goethe 02-02-2018 05:29 AM

^ Nope. Just observing.

NatalieK 02-02-2018 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overdose (Post 22190229)
good thing I sold my eth still on 1100 yesterday

itīs crazy, every coinīs dropping. Nagaīs back to just over 1, it started at 1 the other week...

BTC 8k, ETH dropping its belly and ripple, wtf!

I canīt see anyone winning here by holding onto anything, selling now and then purchasing when itīs dropped to the bottom is about the only good thing that can come from this :thumbsup

Goethe 02-02-2018 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190255)
itīs crazy, every coinīs dropping. Nagaīs back to just over 1, it started at 1 the other week...

BTC 8k, ETH dropping its belly and ripple, wtf!

I canīt see anyone winning here by holding onto anything, selling now and then purchasing when itīs dropped to the bottom is about the only good thing that can come from this :thumbsup

Let the dust settle, don?t try to catch a falling knife and average down :thumbsup

overdose 02-02-2018 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190255)
itīs crazy, every coinīs dropping. Nagaīs back to just over 1, it started at 1 the other week...

BTC 8k, ETH dropping its belly and ripple, wtf!

I canīt see anyone winning here by holding onto anything, selling now and then purchasing when itīs dropped to the bottom is about the only good thing that can come from this :thumbsup

converted it to fiat so... :) but yeah ethereum seemed like a safe harbour 'til yesterday x) this gold project Digix DAO seems quite stable though, pretty resistant to the whole downfall... it jumped up 100% today for like an hour x) precious game to play for traders while the rest of the market is crashing :D

Smack dat 02-02-2018 06:59 AM

I'm going on a limb and suggesting we are hitting the bottom.
The way I see it it started going "mental" around the beginning of Nov when bitcoin was around $7k it hit an ATH on 17th Nov of $7888 (I screenshoted it).
So I think the bottom would be around $7500 and that would be a realistic price before all the hype.
...So, expect another $1k dip before levelling out.

Then I think it will be pretty stagnant for a long time (over a year) although I do think sometime late 2018 or 2019 we will pass the current ATH.

beerptrol 02-02-2018 07:07 AM

Crypto noobs
https://i.imgur.com/x3VIzWX.jpg




Me
https://i.imgur.com/5JEYC2F.jpg

rogueteens 02-02-2018 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22189755)
The value, or price, is irrelevant. The loss or gain of your investment is solely in percentage terms. If a coin was worth $15,000 and dropped to $7,500 you would have lost 50% of your invested money. If a coin was worth a penny and dropped to half a penny, you would have lost 50% of your investment :2 cents:

Yes, I understand that but my fault, I really didn't explain myself well. I meant that I lost less than if I had all my cash in bitcoin.

armysmoke 02-02-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22190235)
Ripple is down to 70c :Oh crap

Ripple is going up to .89 cents.

pimpmaster9000 02-02-2018 09:13 AM

total crypto market cap up 100 billion in 2 hours btc at 9K again...what an orchestrated pump and dump LOL congratz to the winners :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

.:R I O:. 02-02-2018 10:02 AM

After February Chinese New years festival , BTC will be raised again.

ilnjscb 02-02-2018 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190227)
it could crash to 10, whereīs the base value?


You canīt buy until itīs levelled out, youīd be mental to buy now with it dropping out so much :helpme

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ANAL PASTE 02-02-2018 11:15 AM

Did I fuck up or what for not selling at 19K. Was so tempting. Good thing I bought most of it at 3K. How long before it drops below 3K thought?

pimpmaster9000 02-02-2018 12:16 PM

8.5K is the new 50K :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Wizzo 02-02-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190255)

I canīt see anyone winning here by holding onto anything, selling now and then purchasing when itīs dropped to the bottom is about the only good thing that can come from this :thumbsup

Sell on drop, sounds like a great investment plan. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Wizzo 02-02-2018 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22190351)

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NatalieK 02-02-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 22190841)
Sell on drop, sounds like a great investment plan. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

if it drops to 100, then it may have been better to sell at 9k, just wishing I sold at 15k before Christmas :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 02-02-2018 01:39 PM

Never invest what you cannot comfortably afford to LOSE. It's like going to Las Vegas.

Whatever I put in already I consider "lost". One day a few years from now I will check in and see what's what. Short-term buying/selling is for chumps, losers and panic-stricken wannabe pretenders.

BTC 4 LIFE!!!

Adraco 02-02-2018 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190903)
...just wishing I sold at 15k before Christmas :2 cents:

Knowing this just made my entire weekend! :thumbsup

RandyRandy 02-02-2018 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22190903)
if it drops to 100, then it may have been better to sell at 9k, just wishing I sold at 15k before Christmas :2 cents:

Unfortunately you can't even sell at 9k now.

My advice: put in a sell order for 9,300 and end the madness. Catch the next bounce up because they're won't be many more.

Then again: I know A LOT about pizza. Cryptocurrency pump and dumps, not so much.

Hope it works out for you.


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