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Old 04-27-2003, 06:03 AM   #1
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:mad GoGoBar refuses to pay me for the gallery contest

For those who don't know on April 17th Gogobar launched a gallery design contest
for his site http://www.redpersonals.com with the following prices:

1st prize - 100$
2nd to 5th - 50$ each

(http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=126057)

On April 23rd he picked the winners. My gallery template http://www.hustlerteens.com/redpersonals/
came on the second place.








So according to his own rules he owed me 50$ for my performance.

I've contacted GoGoBar in the next day after he picked the winners to ask him about my prize. We had a little talk on ICQ about the payment method but after 2 minutes he made up an excuse and interrupted the conversation.

Since then all my attempts to contact him have failed. Today he appeared online on ICQ most of the time but he choose to ignore all my messages.

I haven't got yet the money he owes me.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:11 AM   #2
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Me thinks the daily 'design contests' on GFY are a waste of time - next time design for someone who pays for work & doesn't use a contest to get free work - eh?
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:16 AM   #3
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Well I am not a designer and I don't intend to become one. I just had some extra time in a morning and the contest seemed
to be a good idea.

I had no clue that this guy is a crook.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:30 AM   #4
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I know him well and hes a straight shooter (he just paid out over 10 people 200 bonus dollars including myself)

If you earned 50 bucks you will get it.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:54 AM   #6
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I know him well and hes a straight shooter (he just paid out over 10 people 200 bonus dollars including myself)

If you earned 50 bucks you will get it.
I doubt. He is online on ICQ but he ignore all my messages.

I don't care how many people he paid. He did not paid me and he refuse to talk.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:58 AM   #7
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I doubt. He is online on ICQ but he ignore all my messages.

I don't care how many people he paid. He did not paid me and he refuse to talk.
Heh.. patience is a virtue.. it hasn't even been that long and your whining. I am sure Gogobar will pay you. Hell this was a fucking contest too.. and you can't give the guy a few days? Like I said in another thread, your not the brightest crayon in the box obviously.
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:06 AM   #8
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Jeez you're a jumpy mother fucker. I paid everyone but you. I even ICQ'd you yesterday asking how the hell I could pay you in the middle of fucking no where country that you live in. I told you I won't do epassporte that I could issue you a check or do something else (such as yesterday I was going to propose western union or something).

Why are stupid petty little designers always like "I'm gonna go run and tell GFY about you". I paid the whole list (those who got in touch at least) their money. You are a little cry baby about it after two days. And I icq'd you yesterday to set something up and you replied. Sorry I didn't get your reply until this morning. You stupid little loser. Ask the rest on the list, they got paid. Are you that desperate for $50 that within a day you have to throw a temper tantrum and cry about it?

ICQ me your address. I'll send you out a check.

Sorry if I'm not on from 4am until 10am. You're a fucking moron.

I hope NOONE does business with this fucking hahahaha.

Sony (03:55 AM) :
hello
Sony (03:55 AM) :
regarding the design contest and payment
Sony (05:11 AM) :
hey, why don't you answer?
Sony (05:13 AM) :
don't you dare to ignore me
Sony (05:17 AM) :
I see that you are online since few hours ago and you refuse to answer me
Sony (05:26 AM) :
okay I see that you choosed to ignore me
Sony (05:26 AM) :
I am going to start a thread on GFY about this issue today
Sony (05:28 AM) :
I camed second on the contest you have initiated and you don't want to pay me now
Sony (05:31 AM) :
and don't you there either to use my template
Sony (07:39 AM) :
okay dumbfuck you asked for it
Sony (07:54 AM) :
"Gogobar refuse to pay me for the gallery contest"
Sony (07:54 AM) :
this is the thread title
Sony (08:58 AM) :
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/forumd...?s=&forumid=26
Sony (08:58 AM) :
I'll bump it untill everyone will know
Sony (08:58 AM) :
fuckface
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And washiez. I've known you forever. Why the hell weren't you here for the last party?
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Me thinks the daily 'design contests' on GFY are a waste of time - next time design for someone who pays for work & doesn't use a contest to get free work - eh?
And, I started a contest with the intention of paying $250 for 5 galleries and wound up paying like $700 for almost 20 galleries. I don't see how I did anyone wrong or how this contest was a bad idea. As you can see above I do pay for any work done and I've never used anyone's work I haven't paid for. Infact, there are MANY times I've paid a designer to design somethign and then NOT used it. But if they put the time in to do it, I paid them for it. That's just the right way to do things in my book.

Throw your comments around at people you have a fucking clue about.
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:18 AM   #13
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fuck off, you appeared as online for few hours and I got no reply from you. It looked like an ignore.
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Like I just told you, my icq is on 24/7. This is a PRIME FUCKING EXAMPLE of why no one works with fuck offs from countries like yours. There is a reason I can't send to you with paypal, and people like you are it.

Give me your address, I will send you out a check.
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I don't give a fuck on how much money you throwed in the contest. Try to talk on topic and put yourself in my situation.

I do bussines in real time here.
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Like I just told you, my icq is on 24/7. This is a PRIME FUCKING EXAMPLE of why no one works with fuck offs from countries like yours. There is a reason I can't send to you with paypal, and people like you are it.

Give me your address, I will send you out a check.
Out of curiosity, which country?
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If you read the quote above it, which my post was a reply to, it was about people doing contests for free work. I was responding to him to point out that I don't. I was on the topic of his post and making a valid response. And BEFORE I did that I addressed your stupidity.

Why do you keep posting like an asshole and making yourself look more and more stupid in front of everyone?
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What has do to my country with the fact I heard nothing from you
for 2 days?
You have no argues left ?
It takes few seconds to reply on ICQ. Why could'nt you say that you were busy and you will contact me today, tommorow, in one week, in one month or whenever you will have time.
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Out of curiosity, which country?
Eastern European is all he said so far. One that paypal won't work with I know.
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What has do to my country with the fact I heard nothing from you
for 2 days?
You have no argues left ?
It takes few seconds to reply on ICQ. Why could'nt you say that you were busy and you will contact me today, tommorow, in one week, in one month or whenever you will have time.
I was away at the above time span of your little one way conversation I pasted above.

I sent you this on 4/25:
let me know when u are on so we can figure out a payment mehtod

And I got no response from you up until your little bitch fest I posted above.

You're a lowlife scumbag looking to get some attention. Give me your address and I will send you a check. I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Obvisouly you're a moron and I'm not going to waste my time on you.
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What has do to my country with the fact I heard nothing from you for 2 days?
a) 2-days is not long to wait
b) it's the weekend!

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I heard nothing from him for 2 days until this spew of BS.

Again, I hope everyone gets an idea of this guys caliber from this and keeps it in mind next time he comes around.
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Like I just told you, my icq is on 24/7. This is a PRIME FUCKING EXAMPLE of why no one works with fuck offs from countries like yours. There is a reason I can't send to you with paypal, and people like you are it.

Give me your address, I will send you out a check.

Then fix your ICQ. How the hell am I supposed to know you were away from your computer when ICQ status showed you are online?

Try to see for a little bit things from my perspective. I don't have a clue who you are and how many people knows you on this board. You did not replied my messages for 2 days, despite you appeared as being online.

It looked like an ignore.
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And washiez. I've known you forever. Why the hell weren't you here for the last party?
I'm a party pooper, didn't you know that?
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Then fix your ICQ. How the hell am I supposed to know you were away from your computer when ICQ status showed you are online?

Try to see for a little bit things from my perspective. I don't have a clue who you are and how much known you are on this board. You did not replied my messages for 2 days, despite you appeared as being online.

It looked like an ignore.
You are supposed to know I am away from my computer becuase I did not reply to you.

I don't post to this board much at all really. Here and there I do, but I'm hardly a "regular" or a "personality" on here. Just someone who's been in this business a long time.

And I sent you an icq two days ago asking NICELY how we could find a way to pay you and I got no response. I didn't freak out when you didn't respond. I simply figured you were busy or not around on the weekend. Then 2 days later I got your attack on there and on here.

It speaks VERY lowly of you. People seem to think GFY is a court room or something. Well if it is, I think you just had your case thrown out.

And, I will say it AGAIN. Send me your address on ICQ so I can get you out a check. I've asked a # of times, why haven't you sent it?
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Sheeit, just pick a new winner and throw his out to the fishes. ;)
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Let me put this clear.

It did not bothers me to wait a payment for few days, or few weeks. What it bothers me is someone who refuse to talk and ignore my messages.

It seemed like you ignoring me, did'nt knew it was your ICQ settings fault.
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Let me put this clear.

It did not bothers me to wait a payment for few days, or few weeks. What it bothers me is someone who refuse to talk and ignore my messages.

It seemed like you ignoring me, did'nt knew it was your ICQ settings fault.
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Let me put this clear.

It did not bothers me to wait a payment for few days, or few weeks. What it bothers me is someone who refuse to talk and ignore my messages.

It seemed like you ignoring me, did'nt knew it was your ICQ settings fault.
You know what bothers me about this. This was a fucking contest! He didn't even have to pick you as a winner! Get some fucking patience.
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Washiez, I still plan to pay him, thats what I agreed to.

And Kinder, give it up. You came here on a reputation ruining crusade and came up empty. You had no grounds to do it and you did it after a few days of not getting $50 (on top of when I tried to get in touch with you to find out how I could pay you). People go months without getting payment of thousands of dollars without trying to come here and ruin someone, which is a stupid childs game in the first place. You're a low life moron with a short temper and a small mind.

I have had my icq running like that for 6 years, you're the first to have such a problem with it.

Yet again, give me your address for payment.
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Calm down it was a misunderstanding.
I wouldn't start this thread in the first place if I would knew you are enable to reply because you were offline.
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You're telling me to calm down? Reread the top of this thread.
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Kinder, is your nick an indication of your age?

'Cause you are certainly acting like a child!
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You're telling me to calm down? Reread the top of this thread.
I don't see any emotional talking in the top of the thread.
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Your ICQ conversation aka what I woke up to this morning.
That was in privat not public.
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Calm down it was a misunderstanding.
I wouldn't start this thread in the first place if I would knew you are enable to reply because you were offline.
Alright alright you know you fucked up right? Just come clean to it and take it like a man and we'll all forgive you eventually but probably not real fast. For future reference, when waiting on money, however important it may be to you, you have to wait at least 7 days probably before you can go and do this kind of bullshit if not longer. I mean you always have the option of email, talking to someone who knows the person you are trying to get ahold of and can pass a message along for you, but don't pull this type of shit until you've exhausted all types of options and waited several days at the least. I mean fuck I know people are online when I hit them on ICQ and sometimes it takes a couple hours to say hello all the time, people are busy, they forget to turn their away message on, shit happens, just wait next time.
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That was in privat not public.
And what is this?

Topic: GoGoBar refuses to pay me for the gallery contest


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I don't care if it feeds his whole country, it doesn't give him the right to do what he did.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:07 AM   #42
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Alright alright you know you fucked up right? Just come clean to it and take it like a man and we'll all forgive you eventually but probably not real fast. For future reference, when waiting on money, however important it may be to you, you have to wait at least 7 days probably before you can go and do this kind of bullshit if not longer. I mean you always have the option of email, talking to someone who knows the person you are trying to get ahold of and can pass a message along for you, but don't pull this type of shit until you've exhausted all types of options and waited several days at the least. I mean fuck I know people are online when I hit them on ICQ and sometimes it takes a couple hours to say hello all the time, people are busy, they forget to turn their away message on, shit happens, just wait next time.
Ok, ok, did'nt knew, like I've said I am not a designer, I don't design for living, my only revenue comes from my sponsors. I don't offer design services in exchange of money so my experience is not very vaste when it comes about such things.

This contest was an exception.

However GoGoBar please accept my apologies for starting this thread. It was a misunderstanding.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:09 AM   #43
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:13 AM   #44
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50 dollars feeds a family of 12 in certain euro countries for a month
TDF 50 dollars only feed a family of 12 if they would eat bread all month.
I use to spend 50 bucks in one night when I go to clubs.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:14 AM   #45
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GoGo I was gonna jump in here but seems you have already more then cleared it up
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:16 AM   #46
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It's $50.. Jesus.

Why would you go crazy over chump change $50?

Very immature if you ask me.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:20 AM   #47
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people are busy, they forget to turn their away message on, shit happens



This brings up a question.

Can you have an 'away message' while in invisible mode for the people in your visible list (who you allow to still see you while your invisible) ????

Does anyone know?
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:21 AM   #48
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Then fix your ICQ. How the hell am I supposed to know you were away from your computer when ICQ status showed you are online?
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It looked like an ignore.
dude, look at the time you sent every single message. they were all between 4 am and 9 am.

in Canada and the USA, the majority of us like to sleep in on a Sunday morning. Not everyone has to wake up at 6 am to climb the mountain and milk to goats before the village wakes up for breakfast.

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I do bussines in real time here.
If you wanna do business in real time, post on a board where the majority of the webmasters aren't half way across the world from you.

And you weren't doing business with anyone. You won a contest.
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Old 04-27-2003, 08:21 AM   #49
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GoGo I was gonna jump in here but seems you have already more then cleared it up
I think he wants people who will HELP His cause.. not hurt it!!

j/k
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