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Looking for an Investment
To cut to the chase, Jokaroo Entertainment, Inc. is seeking an investor. Before I get into elaborate details, I'll just run a quick summary of what we are looking for.
Our sites: http://www.jokaroo.com [flagship site] http://www.jokedollars.com [Affiliate promotion for jokaroo.com] The investment would be directly used for promotion and upgrading our members section. Specifically, the promotion would be used for pushing subscribers to our subscription based model... Lastest Press Release on the model: http://www.prweb.com/releases/?57891 You may already notice that we focus on adult humor and you maybe skeptical on the successful implementation of this model. But with recently introducing this program, I can conclusively say we have had success. Our community forum, which is extremely active, seems to have a very positive impact on retention. We require a full subscription in order to post on our forums (4,000+ members) and we allow all guests read access only. Our members section includes a database of hundreds of funny movies and commericals. There are also many other features and benefits to our subscription. In essence, the investment we need is for updating our members section to include the Flash Communication system. This would enable video and audio chat which will be integrated on our forum. In addition, we are looking for a cash injection to increase the base number of subscribers. This can be possibly achieved by purchasing private newsletter campaigns, or entering in with a network like Commission Junction (http://www.cj.com). If you have any interest, or in any way able to help please contact me immediately. We are open to all offers and all sums of investments. We won't get ourself into an investment where we can't buy back our complete share of our company, so in other words, we are not looking to sell a % of our company. We are looking for someone looking to invest and make their dollar back within the year. Ofcourse you'd own percentage of our company until the expected ROI is met. AIM: solidmak ICQ: 20762139 Email: webmaster (at) jokaroo.com |
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I do have $100 available to invest.
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My government says you are likely to die of SARS, do I get your whole biz if you do?
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Let's do some business.
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Do you mind explaining what's wrong with the summarized business plan? Or do you just feel like directly bashing it for no specific reason? |
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so where does the investor make a profit off of his investment?
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Where is your risk? You want someone to loan you money and pay it back not on a percentage where they might have a chance to make ok money in the future, but a set ROI. There are too many negatives for that kind of investment. Unless you are talking a few thousand dollars and someone is bored good luck. ![]()
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For example, if you invest $10,000 and it takes us 6 months to get your $10,000 back via subscription revenues (from the 50% chunk you own), we continue paying you another $2,500 as your return on investment (which is the 25% ROI). If you're an investor, you'd know that 25% compounded semi-annually is considered a real good investment. Let's say the investment turns out to be shit. Remember, you still own 50% of all subscription revenues, so eventually you'll get your money back in full. Assuming it takes 5 years (worse case scenerio) to make your $10,000 back.... you'd still own 50% until you complete we can pay your ROI. So 5 years - 6 months is 4.5 years in additional ROI. (25% + (9periods*10%))= 115% This would mean, when all said is done, you'll pocket $21,500... a profit of $11,500 if the investment is paid in 5 years. Ofcourse these are random figures, and doesn't necessarily reflect the contract we'd agree upon. |
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All investment is based on ROI. If your investment makes us millions, we'd obviously have further incentives. The things you are asking here, are just not anything I would beable to go into detail with. I'm sure you understand this. |
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and what if you never make the money back?
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It still sucks dude...
You invest in a startup/small business such as yours, you are taking a much higher than average risk with your cash. Worst case scenario = you lose everything you invested. Normally, best case scenario = the startup flies and you get rich. With your proposal, the best case scenario (with a ridiculously high risk factor) is that you will get your money back and a tiny bit more. OR you may double it if it takes an eternity to get paid back... Stocktraders right dude. Your proposal sucks. I don't mean to offend you, but that's the bottom line. Give me $10K and 10 hours of your time per week for 6 months and I'll put you on 100K a year within 6 months. |
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A high risk investment (like to a stranger on a bbs running an internet joke company) usually entails potential high rewards.
25% aint a high reward, it's a favour. Upping your credit limit would give the bank 15% on a credit card. |
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we'll miss you our friend. RIP
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I understand what all you guys are saying, and I appreciate the advice. But you must understand, I have not offered any proposal, I've just thrown you my business plan (in short form).
If you wanna triple your money in 6 months, I never said I wouldn't agree to something like that, nor did I say I will. If you have any sort of interest, please contact me so we can discuss this one on one. The investment is definitely high risk, and since that's the case, it would definitely be high return if all goes well. I'm open to any negotiation here. |
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I assure you bikini, only a fool or a friend is gonna go for that kind of proposal. Again I MUST STRESS I do not intend to offend you and I wish you luck. You just aren't gonna get someone to say yes to anything even remotely like that.
This is how a seasoned high risk investor will see your proposal: COMPANY FUCKS UP = Investor loses their investment COMPANY FUCKS UP = Bikinihouse loses just his time COMPANY FLIES = Investor gets "maybe" double his money COMPANY FLIES = Bikinihouse gets rich It just doesn't work like that. |
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I think you should offer something like 30% share in the company for 3 years with the option for you to buy back the shares at an previously agreed price at the end of 1 year.
I think some guys "might" go for something along them lines. |
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okok so you didn't use real figures. mate if you're fishing for investors frikkin start high with your figures, don't do sums based on unnattractive numbers
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But the exit would have to be attractive to the investor. You couldn't say "invest 10K, at the end of year 1 we have the option to buy back for 15K" Say something like: "Invest 10K and at the end of year 1 if we so wish, we have the option to buy back your 10K share at 50K" That way, you limit your risk and the rewards for the investor are higher. |
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Good luck dude!
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Could someone loan me a dollar.. I only need it for a minute...
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