seems that Catalans already splitted from Spain, regardless of referendum results - GoFuckYourself.com

klinton · 10-01-2017, 02:17 AM

Idiots from Spanish government seem to not know that violence leads to more violence and strong actions leads to even bigger contrmeasures, especially in dedicated souls...

I'm not pro catalan independence, I think that they are being played by their local politicans that want to steal even more (than Rajoy and his crew does

), but how the Madrid plays this issue is a classic example HOW THEY SHOULDN'T DO IT.
Also, I think that Catalunyan independence would be bad, both for average Catalans and Spain of course (maybe only rich catalans will get better). But in the days like today, Catalans received just more moral power to their cause and regardless of the referendum result (and if it it will even succeed), their independence cause only got stronger.

jackiehst · 10-01-2017, 03:21 AM

You didn't write that referendum is Putin's plot? Strange

Paul&John · 10-01-2017, 03:36 AM

Videos like this surely won't help the Spanish government..
https://twitter.com/JaumeCarballo/st...23969566138368

Klen · 10-01-2017, 04:13 AM

One thing is sure, they will get independence only with war. But what i learned how independence is relative anyway, as in the end there will be always politicians which will steal your money.

Paul&John · 10-01-2017, 04:28 AM

https://twitter.com/alextortsagues/s...668673/video/1
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/914410345120325632

klinton · 10-01-2017, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jackiehst

You didn't write that referendum is Putin's plot? Strange

I did not, although I'm aware that disinformation, manipulation that leads to DIVIDE of nations and countries is very useful tactic, not only of Russia's FSB, GRU and their foreign policy as a whole

but they seem to mastered it really well - 80 years of KGB experience were really useful

and as for Spain - well I wish all parties good luck. but Madrid's actions will only lead to more pro independepent thinking, not less.

klinton · 10-01-2017, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

One thing is sure, they will get independence only with war. But what i learned how independence is relative anyway, as in the end there will be always politicians which will steal your money.

And I'm pretty sure thats the case at the beginning here - local catalan bonzos stir up things to steal more and better than current Rajoy government. which seem to be actually really hard task lol, as Rajoy is well known to be a really crooked status quo corrupted politician over there

wehateporn · 10-01-2017, 04:53 AM

klinton · 10-01-2017, 04:55 AM

...and let's not forget about things like cutting off Internet access to voting points, taking the voting cards or blocking the access to voting points...
Also, a ride of the .cat domain registrars and local internet company....all days and weeks before in September
typical LOL actions of the government that seems to live in XIX century, so typical for this country

klinton · 10-01-2017, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

yes we all know that. I made a poo today, saw Soros in my toilet. Later went to the street and met Elvis & Hitler, they are still alive !

cut off the bullshit please, its really retarded

wehateporn · 10-01-2017, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

yes we all know that. I made a poo today, saw Soros in my toilet. Later went to the street and met Elvis & Hitler, they are still alive !

cut off the bullshit please, its really retarded

We can pretend it is Mr Putin if that makes you feel more comfortable, but we'll have to make sure we don't research it, so please don't click the link below

George Soros is funding the independence of Catalonia

NatalieK · 10-01-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

Idiots from Spanish government seem to not know that violence leads to more violence and strong actions leads to even bigger contrmeasures, especially in dedicated souls...

The government is doing right, they have moved people from sitting in the street creating blockades to oncoming traffic. Some people have just forgot not fuck with the Spanish police. That´s why all ISIS were caught and shot the other week.

Spain´s a strong country & shall remain strong. The dividers, anyone wanting division, they got it in the UK because the government was weak and continued the lunacy, here in Spain.
Hopefully it will be different & people ignorant to dialect or politics trying to divide the country shall have to deal with this. Again, hopefully this will be over shortly, shorter time than the riots or carnivorous behavior of the US & UK riots.

Sarn · 10-01-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

The government is doing right, they have moved people from sitting in the street creating blockades to oncoming traffic. Some people have just forgot not fuck with the Spanish police. That´s why all ISIS were caught and shot the other week.

Spain´s a strong country & shall remain strong. The dividers, anyone wanting division, they got it in the UK because the government was weak and continued the lunacy, here in Spain.
Hopefully it will be different & people ignorant to dialect or politics trying to divide the country shall have to deal with this. Again, hopefully this will be over shortly, shorter time than the riots or carnivorous behavior of the US & UK riots.

UK do right, Spain wrong

klinton · 10-01-2017, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn

UK do right, Spain wrong

how about PUTIN, comrade ?
is he like that Russian bird of hope and democracy that shines deep in your mind ?

pimpmaster9000 · 10-02-2017, 01:08 AM

Well it's official...90% voted they want out, I expect the UN to go all bleeding heart over Catalonian independence...let the double standards begin...

klinton · 10-02-2017, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

Well it's official...90% voted they want out, I expect the UN to go all bleeding heart over Catalonian independence...let the double standards begin...

well, the referendum wasnt legal....even 1/3 of catalunyan parliament walked away when their voted act of referendum...and those who voted that even didnt have 2/3 majority...

pimpmaster9000 · 10-02-2017, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

well, the referendum wasnt legal....even 1/3 of catalunyan parliament walked away when their voted act of referendum...and those who voted that even didnt have 2/3 majority...

the right to self determination can not be taken away or made illegal...I am not hoping for war and conflicts...I am just hoping for the UN to go all double standard

klinton · 10-02-2017, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

the right to self determination can not be taken away or made illegal...I am not hoping for war and conflicts...

well true. However this issue is played by catalonian big fishes and idiots like PP gov...
regardless of the outcome of the yesterday's referendum, Madrid behaved like it would want to lose Catalunya forever..idiots

as for the differences between that and Kosovo - here it is all about money and more local freedom, while in Kosovo it was more about life of opressed people...see any difference

?
although Spanish gov behave in exactly stupid way like Yugo/Serb gov did..violence will lead them nowhere

pimpmaster9000 · 10-02-2017, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

well true. However this issue is played by catalonian big fishes and idiots like PP gov...
regardless of the outcome of the yesterday's referendum, Madrid behaved like it would want to lose Catalunya forever..idiots

as for the differences between that and Kosovo - here it is all about money and more local freedom, while in Kosovo it was more about life of opressed people...see any difference

?
although Spanish gov behave in exactly stupid way like Yugo/Serb gov did

it is always about money and politicians and never about the people...

kosovo is a bad example because now that they are suddenly not "oppressed" they are not booming in population like before but leaving kosovo at 5%/year LOL...croats will be 1/4 gone in like 14 years...

its never really about the people...

as for madrid, the best thing they could have done is just let them have the vote and ask them nicely to stay in the country with them regardless of the outcome...they fucked up now...

klinton · 10-02-2017, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

as for madrid, the best thing they could have done is just let them have the vote and ask them nicely to stay in the country with them regardless of the outcome...they fucked up now...

...especially that thet result could be NO...

I dont recognize current vote as valid, too big mess, police was doing everything that it could to disrupt it - so no internet connection, no time to verify voters, and frequency less than 50 %... hard to say it was valid at all..
local hard heads are resposible for the current mess, just like the other hard heads from Madrid....Anyway, if catalunya would leave Spain that would be a HUGE blow to Spain...one of the richest provincies...and we have also Pais Vasco, maybe Galicia(prolly not)....

even if they would allow the vote, and the result would be YES, the road to real independence would be still really long..imagine all these obstacles: 50 % of population actually undecided or against it, lots of companies that are based on Spanish capital, lots of infrastrcuture built...yet these idiots from catalunya gov say that they would shout for independecy in 48 hours lol...

Sarn · 10-02-2017, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

how about PUTIN, comrade ?
is he like that Russian bird of hope and democracy that shines deep in your mind ?

spesial for you - фйычщджэюям

klinton · 10-02-2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn

фйычщджэюям

????????? already drunk ?????

I have a special mental exercise for you...Imagine, that.
1. uaz is like Russia under Putin
2. train is the reality
3. guys shouting PIZDA are like greek choir from greek tragedy

COMRADE, lets shoout PIZDA together !!! PIZDA, PIZDA !!!!!!

Paul Markham · 10-02-2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

The government is doing right, they have moved people from sitting in the street creating blockades to oncoming traffic. Some people have just forgot not fuck with the Spanish police. That´s why all ISIS were caught and shot the other week.

Spain´s a strong country & shall remain strong. The dividers, anyone wanting division, they got it in the UK because the government was weak and continued the lunacy, here in Spain.
Hopefully it will be different & people ignorant to dialect or politics trying to divide the country shall have to deal with this. Again, hopefully this will be over shortly, shorter time than the riots or carnivorous behavior of the US & UK riots.

If England was to get an independence referendum it would break free of the dead weight overnight.

JFK · 10-02-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

????????? already drunk ?????

I have a special mental exercise for you...Imagine, that.
1. uaz is like Russia under Putin
2. train is the reality
3. guys shouting PIZDA are like greek choir from greek tragedy

COMRADE, lets shoout PIZDA together !!! PIZDA, PIZDA !!!!!!

, I guess its a 2X4 NOW

NatalieK · 10-02-2017, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

well, the referendum wasnt legal....even 1/3 of catalunyan parliament walked away when their voted act of referendum...and those who voted that even didnt have 2/3 majority...

exactly... and besides, Catalan keep speaking about Franco, not that the past should be to do with the future, however, Asturians should feel more against Spanish government, but they deal with it and appreciate the future. As one as Spain.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If England was to get an independence referendum it would break free of the dead weight overnight.

what dead weight? The 20% of voters? on the dole, unemployed and thieves, the same 20% of the 55% that voted to leave the EU?

figures not exact, just the POV

Rochard · 10-02-2017, 03:50 PM

I never heard of Catalans until Friday.... I know all about the Basque, but never heard of Catalans.

crockett · 10-02-2017, 04:41 PM

Spain govt really fucked that shit up bad. Going heavy hand over something like that is the sure way to force a split..

Tasty1 · 10-02-2017, 05:23 PM

A EU member from Spain knows what happened.
The Nazi's want to split the country and Russia helping them.
And some people think that politicans are smart and know better.

Vice President of the EU, having a meltdwon.

thommy · 10-02-2017, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

well, the referendum wasnt legal....even 1/3 of catalunyan parliament walked away when their voted act of referendum...and those who voted that even didnt have 2/3 majority...

if they would let them do this referendum there would not be a majority for the split.

in the 2014 poll, 80% of voters voted for independence, but only 30% of the electorate voted.

various polls from different media came on a result between 35 and 40% for the independance.

the conservative right winger rajoy changed that now with his brutal act and I am pretty sure that 80% want to be independent now.

no matter if this idea of Independence is smart or not - no matter if the votes would be legit or not - this don´t give them the right to act like that.

it is not forbidden to make a vote no matter if the result can be legally enforced. what they have done here is pure human contempt and brings a new Basque uprising to spain.

AndyA · 10-03-2017, 04:08 AM

I hope the violence ends soon

10-01-2017, 02:17 AM	#1
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	seems that Catalans already splitted from Spain, regardless of referendum results Idiots from Spanish government seem to not know that violence leads to more violence and strong actions leads to even bigger contrmeasures, especially in dedicated souls... I'm not pro catalan independence, I think that they are being played by their local politicans that want to steal even more (than Rajoy and his crew does ), but how the Madrid plays this issue is a classic example HOW THEY SHOULDN'T DO IT. Also, I think that Catalunyan independence would be bad, both for average Catalans and Spain of course (maybe only rich catalans will get better). But in the days like today, Catalans received just more moral power to their cause and regardless of the referendum result (and if it it will even succeed), their independence cause only got stronger.

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klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	...and let's not forget about things like cutting off Internet access to voting points, taking the voting cards or blocking the access to voting points... Also, a ride of the .cat domain registrars and local internet company....all days and weeks before in September typical LOL actions of the government that seems to live in XIX century, so typical for this country

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