The future is here: Navy now has Active Laser Weapon

[2MuchMark]

[EddyTheDog]

Mixed feelings - As a pacifist it's bad - As tech head I LOVE it!..

[Bladewire]

Putin would use that to disperse citizens protesting against him.

[Phoenix]

my point in posting this is..that this is 1985.

we are now in 2017.

[NatalieK]

i thought they had laser weapons on ships 5 or so years back?

this is 2013

[mineistaken]

Thanks, Donald.

[Robbie]

Damn Mark...I thought you meant the Canadian Navy.
Do you guys ever do anything up North? Or is all just listening to Rush and drinking beer 'ey?
lol

[pimpmaster9000]

anti laser coatings are cheap and effective...even if the USA developed a laser precise enough to target the systems at the front of a missile it would be easy to store them at the back and have indirect tracking of any target...

sorry to pop your invasion dreams but you just wasted billions

[Sarn]

USA doing good homework

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn Mark...I thought you meant the Canadian Navy.
Do you guys ever do anything up North? Or is all just listening to Rush and drinking beer 'ey?

Northern patriots like Mark are more American than fascist bottom dwellers like you

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA doing good homework

Russian propoganda lies so stupid making a remote controlled car look like a robot is driving

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn Mark...I thought you meant the Canadian Navy.
Do you guys ever do anything up North? Or is all just listening to Rush and drinking beer 'ey?
lol

We throw snowballs ! EH ?

[Steve Rupe]

The future was here a few years ago.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA doing good homework

you guys drink vodka! open that shit up! there's a disco globe in that shit!

[TimS]

Here is the same basic thing in 2013, they have had this a lot longer than they even admitted to.
https://www.wired.com/2013/04/laser-warfare-system/

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn Mark...I thought you meant the Canadian Navy.
Do you guys ever do anything up North? Or is all just listening to Rush and drinking beer 'ey?
lol

You left out eating poutine and back-bacon! ;)

Originally Posted by Phoenix

my point in posting this is..that this is 1985.

we are now in 2017.

I loved Real Genius.

[Bladewire]

America has been using lasers on ships since the 80's, but those were chemical lasers and very dangerous thus is a new type of laser that's stronger and safer, as long as you're not in front of it

". The Navy has a history of testing energy weapons, including megawatt chemical lasers in the 1980s. Their chemicals were found to be too hazardous for shipboard use, so they turned to less powerful fiber solid-state lasers. Other types can include slab solid state and free electron lasers.[6] The LaWS benefitted from commercial laser developments, with the system basically being six welding lasers "strapped together" that, although they don't become a single beam, all converge on the target at the same time. It generates 33 kW in testing, with follow-on deployable weapons generating 60?100 kW mounted on a Littoral Combat Ship or Arleigh Burke-class destroyer to destroy fast-attack boats, drones, manned aircraft, and anti-ship cruise missiles out to a few miles.[7] In the short term, the LaWS will act as a short-range, self-defense system against drones and boats, while more powerful lasers in the future should have enough power to destroy anti-ship missiles; Navy slab lasers have been tested at 105 kW with increases to 300 kW planned. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

my point in posting this is..that this is 1985.

we are now in 2017.

Same clip but with popcorn exploding



Check this out from Real Genius (1985) - Trivia - IMDb

The "Popcorn Trick" sequence began with the construction of a full-sized Victorian frame house on a plot in Sand Canyon, California, not far from Los Angeles. Within the house, special effects coordinator Phil Cory and his crew devised an elaborate network of conveyor belts, hydraulic lifts, air blowers and vacuum hoses which would, on cue, turn 190,000 pounds of popcorn into a hot buttered tornado, blowing out the windows, doors and roof of the structure. To film the caramel carnage, director Martha Coolidge positioned five cameras around the building, in classic "anytime you're ready, C.B." tradition, including one on a 300-foot crane. At the Hollywood Center Studios, a two-level set was constructed. On one level was built the interior of the mansion, decorated in the kind of eclectic, expensive kitsch a phony like Jerry Hathaway might fancy. The lower level contained a vast 20' x 20' x 20' storage tank to hold the popcorn until required. With Rube Goldberg ingenuity, the crew built six air-poppers, each ten-feet high, capable of popping 2,400 pounds of corn an hour. Made of sheet metal and heated by propane gas, the poppers "fed" the tank through the pressure of the popping corn itself and a system of air blowers. A conveyor belt and another set of blowers then swirled the popcorn up through the floor to inundate the set in confectionery debris to a height of twenty feet. Producer Brian Grazer explained: "To put it as simply as possible, the entire set was one enormous popcorn popper". That still, however, was not enough. When more popcorn was needed to complete the deluge, the Lapidus Popcorn Company of Los Angeles, California pitched in with an additional 90,000 cubic feet. Grazer added: "We eventually used enough popcorn to feed 720,000 moviegoers, each eating the largest tub sold at theaters. At retail, the cost would have been about $1,800,000. But since we were among the world's largest consumers of popcorn, if only for about five minutes, we received a substantial discount".

[JuicyBunny]

"Excellenttttttttttttttttttt"

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

"Excellenttttttttttttttttttt"

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

The future is here: Navy now has Active Laser Weapon

A very expensive and useless toy. Especially for naval use. Should I explain why or maybe you have studied physics in the school?

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russian propoganda lies so stupid making a remote controlled car look like a robot is driving

Sometimes I wish to be astupid idiot ike you, because ignorance is a bless. That's not a propaganda. That's a "raspil" (go Google it). You Americans think it's for real, but every Russian 5 year old kid knows it's just a way to stole the money.

If you want to see the real technologies, look at something.. ah... umn... real. E.g. The Lord Of The Sky: Sukhoy (Su-35, Su-37)













The fighter jet is 10 cheaper than F-22 and and incomparable more maneuverable. It's recognized by NATO as "UFO". That's a technology of the future while you are spending billions of useless toys.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

[Center]
Russian propoganda lies so stupid making a remote controlled car look like a robot is driving

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you guys drink vodka! open that shit up! there's a disco globe in that shit!

Originally Posted by Bladewire

America has been using lasers on ships since the 80's, but those were chemical lasers and very dangerous thus is a new type of laser that's stronger and safer, as long as you're not in front of it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System

The Soviet Union began experimenting with lasers in the fifties and sixties. Its first laser weapons, emerging in the seventies, were fixed ground-based systems with the suitably science-fiction names Terra-3 and Omega. Terra-3 encompassed two different devices, installed at the Sary Shagan testing ground in Kazakhstan: a visible ruby laser and an invisible carbon-dioxide laser. Initially conceived in the 1960s to swat down ballistic missiles in the terminal descending phase, following the 1972 treaty banning antiballistic-missile systems, Terra-3 was reoriented towards damage orbiting satellites, though with little success due to inaccurate tracking systems.

Nonetheless, Terra-3 inspired the Pentagon to throw fits in the 1980s about a potential Soviet ?laser gap? over U.S. technology, and there were even rumors initiated by former Soviet officials (generally discredited today) that they were used to illuminate the space shuttle Challenger in 1984, causing it to malfunction. However, later Western inspection of Terra-3 revealed the lasers were mere prototypes that lacked by far the power and scale necessary to significantly affect orbital targets.
Russia's Cold War Super Weapon (Put Lasers on Everything It Can) | The National Interest Blog


Russia Is Building Laser-Armed Nuclear 'Combat Icebreakers'
More details are emerging about Russia?s trump card for control of the Arctic: laser-armed, nuclear-powered ?combat icebreakers.?

In addition to a warship-sized array of weapons, the 8,500-ton Ivan Papanin?class vessels will mount powerful lasers that can cut through ice?and possibly through enemies as well. They will join a fleet of forty existing Russian icebreakers. The United States is now down to two, even as the United States, Canada and other nations are focusing on the Arctic, where melting ice offer the lure of fresh mineral deposits and new commercial shipping routes.

And that?s where the lasers come in. ?Later this year, scientists aboard the Dixon, a Russian diesel-powered icebreaker operating in the White Sea, will begin testing of a 30-kilowatt ship-based laser, designed specifically for easing the movement of ships operating in the Arctic environment,? Sputnik News said. ?The project involves experts from the Moscow-based Astrofizika Design Institute, with the assistance of St. Petersburg's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute.?

It?s the following stages that will be interesting. As the United States discovered during its attempt fifteen years ago to create the YAL-1, a giant chemically powered antimissile laser mounted on a 747, a powerful laser has a powerful appetite for energy. But that isn?t stopping Russia from trying to develop a two-hundred-kilowatt laser for its icebreakers (by comparison, the U.S. Army just took delivery of a truck-mounted antimissile laser with a power of just sixty kilowatts).

A laser powerful enough to cut through six feet of ice would probably prove equally formidable against missiles and drones, and perhaps even other ships. However, what?s really significant here isn?t the lasers. It?s the attention that Russia is paying to fighting in the Arctic, from icebreaker-warships to rugged antiaircraft missiles. That?s more than the United States is doing, and more than a small but Arctic-savvy nation like Canada can afford.
nationalinterest.org/blog/russia-building-laser-armed-nuclear-combat-icebreakers-21628

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

The Soviet Union began experimenting with lasers in the fifties and sixties. Its first laser weapons, emerging in the seventies, were fixed ground-based systems with the suitably science-fiction names Terra-3 and Omega. Terra-3 encompassed two different devices, installed at the Sary Shagan testing ground in Kazakhstan: a visible ruby laser and an invisible carbon-dioxide laser. Initially conceived in the 1960s to swat down ballistic missiles in the terminal descending phase, following the 1972 treaty banning antiballistic-missile systems, Terra-3 was reoriented towards damage orbiting satellites, though with little success due to inaccurate tracking systems.

Nonetheless, Terra-3 inspired the Pentagon to throw fits in the 1980s about a potential Soviet ?laser gap? over U.S. technology, and there were even rumors initiated by former Soviet officials (generally discredited today) that they were used to illuminate the space shuttle Challenger in 1984, causing it to malfunction. However, later Western inspection of Terra-3 revealed the lasers were mere prototypes that lacked by far the power and scale necessary to significantly affect orbital targets.
Russia's Cold War Super Weapon (Put Lasers on Everything It Can) | The National Interest Blog


Russia Is Building Laser-Armed Nuclear 'Combat Icebreakers'
More details are emerging about Russia?s trump card for control of the Arctic: laser-armed, nuclear-powered ?combat icebreakers.?

In addition to a warship-sized array of weapons, the 8,500-ton Ivan Papanin?class vessels will mount powerful lasers that can cut through ice?and possibly through enemies as well. They will join a fleet of forty existing Russian icebreakers. The United States is now down to two, even as the United States, Canada and other nations are focusing on the Arctic, where melting ice offer the lure of fresh mineral deposits and new commercial shipping routes.

And that?s where the lasers come in. ?Later this year, scientists aboard the Dixon, a Russian diesel-powered icebreaker operating in the White Sea, will begin testing of a 30-kilowatt ship-based laser, designed specifically for easing the movement of ships operating in the Arctic environment,? Sputnik News said. ?The project involves experts from the Moscow-based Astrofizika Design Institute, with the assistance of St. Petersburg's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute.?

It?s the following stages that will be interesting. As the United States discovered during its attempt fifteen years ago to create the YAL-1, a giant chemically powered antimissile laser mounted on a 747, a powerful laser has a powerful appetite for energy. But that isn?t stopping Russia from trying to develop a two-hundred-kilowatt laser for its icebreakers (by comparison, the U.S. Army just took delivery of a truck-mounted antimissile laser with a power of just sixty kilowatts).

A laser powerful enough to cut through six feet of ice would probably prove equally formidable against missiles and drones, and perhaps even other ships. However, what?s really significant here isn?t the lasers. It?s the attention that Russia is paying to fighting in the Arctic, from icebreaker-warships to rugged antiaircraft missiles. That?s more than the United States is doing, and more than a small but Arctic-savvy nation like Canada can afford.
nationalinterest.org/blog/russia-building-laser-armed-nuclear-combat-icebreakers-21628

You can't even lose with dignity you have a small little dick deal with it

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You can't even lose with dignity you have a small little dick deal with it

it is you № 2 in laser science. Add in ship "little dick laser" for puncture rubber boat. And beating himself in chest by heel

[pimpmaster9000]

the thing about american tech is that it aint all that...the USA regularly spreads disinformation and I can certainly understand the advantages of this tactic but, as anything in america, the military is a scam...

think healthcare, education, elections etc...you get the picture...

it is a scam simply because there is a lot of money involved in it and americans are gullible...it strokes the ego..."we are the greatest YEAH!!!" LOL...you are being scammed plain and simple...

your laser is good against somali pirates...the end...you wasted billions...

you always pick on weak ass opponents...and you loose most of the time...heeeeloooooo!....makes you go hmmmmmm...

you are being scammed plain and simple...enjoy the laser

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the thing about american tech is that it aint all that...the USA regularly spreads disinformation and I can certainly understand the advantages of this tactic but, as anything in america, the military is a scam...

think healthcare, education, elections etc...you get the picture...

it is a scam simply because there is a lot of money involved in it and americans are gullible...it strokes the ego..."we are the greatest YEAH!!!" LOL...you are being scammed plain and simple...

your laser is good against somali pirates...the end...you wasted billions...

you always pick on weak ass opponents...and you loose most of the time...heeeeloooooo!....makes you go hmmmmmm...

you are being scammed plain and simple...enjoy the laser

Putin thanks you for your service.

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA doing good homework

russia is the motherfucker of weapons

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

russia is the motherfucker of weapons

Putin thanks you for your service.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

russia is the motherfucker of weapons

Russia need weapon not more than enough for defense.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

...
your laser is good against somali pirates...the end...you wasted billions...
...

Somone Somali pirates will attack USA military ship on rubber boats and they win with use this laser. If fog will do not interfere for the laser

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

You left out eating poutine and back-bacon! ;)

I want to party with you sometime...but I'm scared you are a little too wild for me.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Putin thanks you for your service.

it is amusing that you think that your government is honest in any of its dealings let alone with the #1 cash cow war inc

the laser is made out to be waaay more important that it really is...it can not melt thick metal...china already has anti energy weapon paint...made of rare earth it absorbs heat like a mother fucker...the range of the laser is the horizon...

lets say the laser is at 20meters high this is a 16km to horizon distance...russian missiles travel at mach 3...this is 3675mk/h...thats 1km/second...you literally have 16 seconds to penetrate and theres like 4 heading towards you...keep in mind russia has more than 4....4 is a pitiful number I chose out of kindness for your silly laser...

do you see the problem?

your laser is shit...it is a gimmick...good for cheap somali pirate boats...only costs a buck to fire so it will pay off the billions spent on it when you stop billions of somali pirate boats...

accept that it is shit and move on...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

russia is the motherfucker of weapons

Indeed. Our civilian cars suck, but not the military ones. ;)



It's very stupid to underestimate the Russian technologies... especially because all the American astronauts can reach the space only because Russia allows that.

[Barry-xlovecam]

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/INTRO/570

Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (Protocol IV to the 1980 Convention), 13 October 1995

Article 1

It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.

Both the Russian Federation and the United States of America are parties to this ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross) agreement.

I suppose if you target a manned aircraft with a laser weapon you would blind the pilot before the aircraft is destroyed and its personnel are fried to a crisp. That would be a war crime when lasers are used directly against combatant personnel.

If you target unmanned drones then there is no war crime -- machine v. machine -- may the better machine win.

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Putin thanks you for your service.

i care less, as long he is not scapegoating the one who can't speak about. ..

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/INTRO/570

Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (Protocol IV to the 1980 Convention), 13 October 1995


Both the Russian Federation and the United States of America are parties to this ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross) agreement.

I suppose if you target a manned aircraft with a laser weapon you would blind the pilot before the aircraft is destroyed and its personnel fried to a crisp. That would be a war crime when lasers are used directly against combatant personnel.

If you target unmanned drones then there is no war crime -- machine v. machine -- may the better machine win.

There you can't even use it on manned vehicles so it's useless for Somali pirates boats...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

i thought they had laser weapons on ships 5 or so years back?

this is 2013

Military lasers consume a shitload of energy. They don't work in fog, in rain, in dust etc. They are close-range weapons that can't intercept a target beyond the horizon. In a few words, they can't do even a few percents of that the old good and cheap missiles do just easily.



The video shows which system is #1 and why ;) No lasers there

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Military lasers consume a shitload of energy. They don't work in fog, in rain, in dust etc. They are close-range weapons that can't intercept a target beyond the horizon. In a few words, they can't do even a few percents of that the old good and cheap missiles do just easily.

Its an i-laser LOL they are doing an "apple"

[Barry-xlovecam]

Laser weapons can be used without restriction of any kind against missiles, drone aircraft or ground assault weapons (or support robots) ... So it is not wasted technology -- just limited if the "rules of war" are respected

Unmanned air drone swarm attacks are anticipated against US military assets. That is view of sight targeting.

The speed of light is approximately Mach 874,635.6

[CoolMikey]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

it is amusing that you think that your government is honest in any of its dealings let alone with the #1 cash cow war inc

the laser is made out to be waaay more important that it really is...it can not melt thick metal...china already has anti energy weapon paint...made of rare earth it absorbs heat like a mother fucker...the range of the laser is the horizon...

lets say the laser is at 20meters high this is a 16km to horizon distance...russian missiles travel at mach 3...this is 3675mk/h...thats 1km/second...you literally have 16 seconds to penetrate and theres like 4 heading towards you...keep in mind russia has more than 4....4 is a pitiful number I chose out of kindness for your silly laser...

do you see the problem?

your laser is shit...it is a gimmick...good for cheap somali pirate boats...only costs a buck to fire so it will pay off the billions spent on it when you stop billions of somali pirate boats...

accept that it is shit and move on...

When it comes to engineering, there are always compromises, if something "absorbs heat like a mother fucker", there is good chance it will reflects radar rays "like a mother fucker" too, making it detectable at 5x the distance, or is expensive as fuck, so now your missiles will cost 3x as much, or adds on additional weight, etc, there is always some compromise.

Another detail that you are ignoring is that the laser shown is just initial proof of concept, with much more powerful lasers in development. So while the one shown is pretty weak, realistically only usable against a drone or somali boat, future ones will be able to destroy an incoming missile in a fraction of a second.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Laser weapons can be used without restriction of any kind

[CoolMikey]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Laser weapons can be used without restriction of any kind against missiles, drone aircraft or ground assault weapons (or support robots) ... So it is not wasted technology -- just limited if the "rules of war" are respected

Unmanned air drone swarm attacks are anticipated against US military assets. That is view of sight targeting.

The speed of light is approximately Mach 874,635.6

No one is going to aim at the cockpit, they will just burn a hole in the wing and the aircraft is done.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Military lasers consume a shitload of energy. They don't work in fog, in rain, in dust etc.

Not the new American Navy laser it's only $1 per shot and has over 100 mile range without losing power.

You're thinking of the crappy new Russian laser which is the equivelant of our 1990's lasers Russian Ravers Go Blind From Laser Show - Geekologie

[Barry-xlovecam]

mens rea -- look it up Mikey

Attacking a manned aircraft or vehicle qualifies. I thought this was sorted out at the Nuremberg Trials
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...-642-28246-1_5

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Not the new American Navy laser it's only $1 per shot and has over 100 mile range without losing power.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

mens rea -- look it up Mikey

Attacking a manned aircraft or vehicle qualifies. I thought this was sorted out at the Nuremberg Trials
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...-642-28246-1_5

Yet Russia can gas children in Syria

[Barry-xlovecam]

There is no evidence of any collusion or complicity of the Russian Armed Forces in those attacks. Assad *may* be complicit in those chemical attacks.

Syria is not a member of the ICC.
The Russian Federation and the United States refuse to ratify the ICC Treaty of Rome.

I can't see there being Damascus Trials like there were in Nuremberg after WW2. No one will most likely speak for the dead in Syria.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yet Russia can gas children in Syria

Russia? Are you sure? Got any proof? The only country that have used nukes and chemical weapon against children since WWII is the Unites States of America.

[Paul Markham]

I've seen it before. The Star War Troopers had them.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I've seen it before. The Star War Troopers had them.

They had plasma guns

A friend of my son has made a handheld railgun as a physics project in the school when he was a kid. And you know... it was fully operational

The fact is all those pew-pew lasers, railguns etc use well-known technologies and there is no problem to produce them. Their problem is a low efficiency and a high energy consumption in comparison to traditional weapons.