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thommy 07-17-2017 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21893977)
Agreed. So let'snot make up what he said for him. What we do know is nothing came out from the meetings or the hacks that were damaging to Hillary. If info was exchanged or promises made, let's find out what it was. And if we don't find it, let's drop it.

paul can you tell me what records they got from the watergate tower?

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Now go find a law that states that Russia is an enemy.

How does he know it was only for his personal gain?

The Russians didn't tell the newspapers they had the info. Which was a lie.
are you REALLY serious with what you write here or are you joking?

WTF is all this intelligence stuff about if there is no enemy?

what are all this blockades against russia about if they are friend of USA ?

i am not sure in what kind of reality you live.

thommy 07-17-2017 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21893980)

https://inflationdata.com/Inflation/..._inflation.jpg

The jobs available today are not in the same class as the jobs people did in the past.

economy is far over your horizon paul. you should really not discuss that with someone who have a clue about that.

1. money inflation you have to compare with the income.

2. inflation is one of the IMPORTANT factors to move the economy.
if that not would be the case someone in 1910 could put 1000 dollars on a bankaccount
with an AVERGE interest rate of 3,5%

after 100 years he would have 31.191,41 US in his account. with other words:

3.119 % MORE as he had in 1910 !!!!

and now i ask you WHAT did he produce for that?
this money he got by simply not spending it.

you always want to be the advocate of the lower class but to be that you have to understand the economy - but you donīt because your arguments would cause THE OPPOSITE of your idea.

it is already too late for you to learn that - so better keep quite when it comes to solutions for the economy - you do not have them.

Paul Markham 07-17-2017 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21894043)
paul can you tell me what records they got from the watergate tower?

SDo if you break into a building, wire tap someone. But get nothing, it's not illegal. OK, by the way, what drugs are you on?



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are you REALLY serious with what you write here or are you joking?

WTF is all this intelligence stuff about if there is no enemy?

what are all this blockades against russia about if they are friend of USA ?

i am not sure in what kind of reality you live.
Trade blockades are over countries trade dealings with America and is now enough to call them an enemy. In your mind.

Is it enough in the law?

NewNick 07-17-2017 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21893956)
Of course, I would want to see the evidence.

You guys don't believe in real evidence or that a real crime has been committed.

You keep asking the same question Paul. But I dont know why you keep asking it here.

You need to maybe ask the people in the meeting what was discussed. But best to wait until they get their story straight, because the truth appears to be a moving feast.

To re-cap Paul the peeps at the meeting are very busy guys in the middle of a high powered presidential campaign who dropped everything to meet a Russian national who had damaging info on Clinton. The info promised was part of the Russian Govt's support for the trump campaign.

That was the pre-text for the meeting. That was openly discussed in the email trail.

And because your memory seems to be failing Paul; Russia and America / The West have spent the last 8 years os so in a permanent state of mutual distrust and slimly veiled hostility only slightly less aggressive than the Cold War.

Are you getting it yet Paul ?

Now Paul for some perspective, can you imagine what would happen if Jeremy Corbyn was engaged in similar antics in the UK ?

Would you be squealing about evidence ? Or would you think that the guy should be instantly picked up by MI6 and thrown into The Tower ?

nico-t 07-17-2017 03:11 AM

this is really funny.

Sometimes i do a little trading, so before i do that i check the financial news sites, as well as CNN. Yesterday i opened the CNN site and all 3 or 4 top stories were all about Trump :1orglaugh

They are like these childish, desperate 'gotcha' retards, especially after they've been exposed on hidden cameras. Look how fast it went to Trump jr. after this, a whole new media frenzy started by CNN just to cover up their total failures, lies and pure propaganda for the past 2 years. This is so obvious. They are a complete joke and anyone who still believes anything they say is making a fool of themselves... It's really getting pathetic.

Sarn 07-17-2017 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21893680)

Huh?
:disgust

You black nationalist and hate Trump on the racial and religious issue. You hate America and American culture!

thommy 07-17-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21894133)
SDo if you break into a building, wire tap someone. But get nothing, it's not illegal. OK, by the way, what drugs are you on?

this question i have to ask you if you think that the TRY of a crime is legal we can give up to discuss because you live on a planet what have not the same rules as planet earth.

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Trade blockades are over countries trade dealings with America and is now enough to call them an enemy. In your mind.

so enough to let them influence the policy of a country?

my dear god whatīs going on in your head paul. take your pills.

thommy 07-17-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21894142)
You keep asking the same question Paul. But I dont know why you keep asking it here.

You need to maybe ask the people in the meeting what was discussed. But best to wait until they get their story straight, because the truth appears to be a moving feast.

To re-cap Paul the peeps at the meeting are very busy guys in the middle of a high powered presidential campaign who dropped everything to meet a Russian national who had damaging info on Clinton. The info promised was part of the Russian Govt's support for the trump campaign.

That was the pre-text for the meeting. That was openly discussed in the email trail.

And because your memory seems to be failing Paul; Russia and America / The West have spent the last 8 years os so in a permanent state of mutual distrust and slimly veiled hostility only slightly less aggressive than the Cold War.

Are you getting it yet Paul ?

Now Paul for some perspective, can you imagine what would happen if Jeremy Corbyn was engaged in similar antics in the UK ?

Would you be squealing about evidence ? Or would you think that the guy should be instantly picked up by MI6 and thrown into The Tower ?

it does not make sense, nick. paul has now completely switched off the reality. i think we should really worry about him meanwhile.

Rochard 07-17-2017 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21892441)
So if an election official learned that someone trying to be President was stealing money from the Government or worse was in the pockets of the Saudis. The information comes from MI5. You would want t kept a secret.

Are you crazy?

No, they don't keep it a secret. They call the FBI. Which is the first thing the Trump campaign should have done.

If I remember correctly from a news report last week, this happened to both Nixon and Kennedy. In both cases they called the FBI. It's the ONLY course of action in something like this.

Rochard 07-17-2017 06:37 AM

Now the question is was President Trump in the meeting?

It seems President Trump's attorney was on TV this weekend asking why the Secret Service didn't look into these people. Trump Jr didn't have protection from the Secret Service at the time; They would only be involved if President Trump was involved.

So why would this attorney mention the Secret Service at all?

12clicks 07-17-2017 06:58 AM

its hilarious watching society's bottom being lead around by the nose by the liberal media. I mean, the bottom is willingly lead but at some point you'd think they'd want to stop looking so fucking stupid. I mean seriously...........

Rochard 07-17-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21893191)
Paul -

1) I've posted the stats & graphs of our unemployment dropping under Obama. Things got better under Obama, 16 year record low unemployment:

2) I've posted stats & graphs of the stock market increase under Obama. You ignore it. Things got better under Obama, record high stocks:

3) Foreigners obviously can't see things more clearly from the outside when they look at the data and think things were worse under Obama than Bush, with a record high stock market and record low unemployment.



7 of Drumpf Jr's emails are out and they are very damaging. Putin was against Democrats, that's why Trump Jr's damaging emails were never released, and I guarantee you, there's a lot more coming. Yet, you'll still defend Trump based on race/religion issues.

Trump LOST the popular vote and you're giving me his populist campaign dogma that lost him the populist vote because it was based on easy to prove lies. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is one of the things I just do not understand.... During Obama's two terms as President the Republicans were screaming how horrible the economy was. Yes, it was horrible when it first started, but that wasn't his fault, and unemployment was cut in half while he was in office. When Obama left office the unemployment rate was in the 4% range and still they complained. Now that Trump is in office, unemployment is still in the 4% range, and suddenly Republicans are all okay with the economy as if suddenly things got better. The ONLY thing that changed is we have a new president in office who has signed no bills about the economy at all....

This is what's wrong - The economy is either good or bad. A 4% unemployment rate, no matter who is president, is good. The Republicans thought the economy was bad at the end of Obama's term, but now think it's great that a Republican in office although nothing has changed.

I'm tired of the bullshit.

bronco67 07-17-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21894901)
This is one of the things I just do not understand.... During Obama's two terms as President the Republicans were screaming how horrible the economy was. Yes, it was horrible when it first started, but that wasn't his fault, and unemployment was cut in half while he was in office. When Obama left office the unemployment rate was in the 4% range and still they complained. Now that Trump is in office, unemployment is still in the 4% range, and suddenly Republicans are all okay with the economy as if suddenly things got better. The ONLY thing that changed is we have a new president in office who has signed no bills about the economy at all....

This is what's wrong - The economy is either good or bad. A 4% unemployment rate, no matter who is president, is good. The Republicans thought the economy was bad at the end of Obama's term, but now think it's great that a Republican in office although nothing has changed.

I'm tired of the bullshit.

They're fucking idiots. That's the problem.

Rochard 07-17-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21892450)
America has been going down hill for a long time because the two sides can't drop the infighting.

It's because the Republican party is far out of touch with reality.

The entire time running up to the campaign and during the campaign, they tried to paint Hillary as a "crook". They had over a dozen investigations, and not one of them turned up anything. This was nothing more than a witch hunt. We knew in both the email server case and with Benghazi that there was no wrong doing at all, yet they dragged out investigations for how long? Two years? Three years?

Right now we now for a fact that a foreign government has meddled in our election process. The entire situation with how Trump won was odd and ALL of the polls were proved wrong. We have a pro Russian president with obvious and very long term connections to Russia. It's only common sense that we investigate. In fact, Trump himself should be demanding a full investigation. Just the fact that he isn't demanding this indicates something is wrong. Then we have obvious attempts to obstruct justice - Trump fired the man investigating him. Now ever time we turn around there are more lies, and more information being hidden.

We are having an investigation. We are going to find out the truth. When our government investigates at this level, it's massive. They will go over every transaction, every business deal ALL of the Trump people in the past decade. God only knows what they will find.

Now we have the Republican party trying to kill our healthcare. We have healthcare, it's working. We need to fix what we have, not replace it. NO ONE wants to replace it except for a handful of Republicans in Congress. The general public does not want this replaced.

The Republicans can stop the infighting any time they want. They can start by demanding and running a bi-partisan investigation into what happened, and then they can invite the democrats in on the planning to replace healthcare instead of shutting them out.

2MuchMark 07-17-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21893011)
If some one does not believe in "liberal" lie, "liberals" go to personal Insults :1orglaugh

http://softoroom.net/images/server2/...10_232234.jpeg

Really? Have you read any of JoshuaG's crap?

Robbie 07-17-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21894919)
It's because the Republican party is far out of touch with reality.

LOL!
Talk about being out of touch with reality...the Republicans are in complete power in the Federal Govt.
Have the big majority of state Governors.
The big majority of mayors
The big majority of city govt representatives.

Dude...YOU are in the fringe and not part of the mainstream. YOU and the snowflakes are the ones who are completely out of touch with reality at the moment.

You are so blinded by hatred that you can't even see this.

The Democrat Party stands for illegal immigrants. welfare, food stamps, bad trade deals, horrible foreign policy, and taking away people's right to own a gun.

Trump (not the Republican Party, because Trump is pretty much a blue-dog Democrat) stood for the exact OPPOSITE of that and won the Presidency.
Republican candidates campaigned in OPPOSITION to the Democrat's extreme special interest ideology and won the vast majority of all the country's legislative positions and governorships.

At what point are you ever going to take you blinders off and see? You are in lockstep agreement with some of the most low-life pieces of garbage on GFY. People with no record of success in our industry.
You are in lockstep with every fringe leftist organization in the U.S.

And at the same time you are in opposition to working men and women raising their families in the United States.

Dude...you are destroying yourself with your anti-Trump obsession. Turn off fake news CNN and stop running off roughly half of your potential customers by making all these stupid pronouncements. :(

Sarn 07-17-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21895093)
Really? Have you read any of JoshuaG's crap?

"dumb libs" it is attacked political movement not personally. ))

RedFred 07-18-2017 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21895147)
LOL!
Talk about being out of touch with reality...the Republicans are in complete power in the Federal Govt.
Have the big majority of state Governors.
The big majority of mayors
The big majority of city govt representatives.

Dude...YOU are in the fringe and not part of the mainstream. YOU and the snowflakes are the ones who are completely out of touch with reality at the moment.

You are so blinded by hatred that you can't even see this.

The Democrat Party stands for illegal immigrants. welfare, food stamps, bad trade deals, horrible foreign policy, and taking away people's right to own a gun.

Trump (not the Republican Party, because Trump is pretty much a blue-dog Democrat) stood for the exact OPPOSITE of that and won the Presidency.
Republican candidates campaigned in OPPOSITION to the Democrat's extreme special interest ideology and won the vast majority of all the country's legislative positions and governorships.

At what point are you ever going to take you blinders off and see? You are in lockstep agreement with some of the most low-life pieces of garbage on GFY. People with no record of success in our industry.
You are in lockstep with every fringe leftist organization in the U.S.

And at the same time you are in opposition to working men and women raising their families in the United States.

Dude...you are destroying yourself with your anti-Trump obsession. Turn off fake news CNN and stop running off roughly half of your potential customers by making all these stupid pronouncements. :(


That's a huge load of right wing bullshit you're spewing there.

Bladewire 07-18-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21895201)
"dumb libs" it is attacked political movement not personally. ))

You're an idiot that just wants to troll and antagonize Americans here fuck off

Sarn 07-18-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21893011)
If some one does not believe in "liberal" lie, "liberals" go to personal Insults :1orglaugh

http://softoroom.net/images/server2/...10_232234.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21896860)
You're an idiot that just wants to troll and antagonize Americans here fuck off

As example it is Bladewire :1orglaugh

Rochard 07-18-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21895147)

The Democrat Party stands for illegal immigrants. welfare, food stamps, bad trade deals, horrible foreign policy, and taking away people's right to own a gun.

This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before. We need to reduce people on welfare and food stamps; This is common sense. What you are calling "horrible foreign policy" resulted in removing us from two never ending wars and the defeat of ISIS without spilling American blood.

As for firearms, we need some common sense laws - I own firearms myself, but I do not believe everyone should own firearms.

Rochard 07-18-2017 09:33 AM

Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?


TheSquealer 07-18-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897064)
This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.

Another bullshit liberal lie that gets told and told again with no context.

Illegal immigrants started flooding across the borders in record numbers - particularly unaccompanied minors peaking at over 10,000 per day, due to his idiotic immigration policies, jackass and refusal to enforce immigration law.

The fact that he deported FAR LESS than he encouraged to flood across the border does not make him a champion against illegal immigration.

https://judiciary.house.gov/hearing/...-s-new-normal/

Robbie 07-18-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897067)
Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?


Damn man...there's no talking any sense into you. :(

"we" and giant fonts...look at the image of yourself that you are putting out on GFY. This can't be good for you.

12clicks 07-18-2017 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897064)
This is not true at all.

Under Obama we deported more illegal immigrants than ever before.

I didn't know this lie was still being told.


High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times

Bladewire 07-18-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21897067)
Now we discover there was an eight person in this secret meeting?



And wait for it.... He's a Russian money launderer and is on video with Donald Trump in Moscow at the Miss universe pageant. He created 2,000 businesses in Delaware and opened bank accounts for them. Now investigators are tracking where $800 million from Russia was disbursed from his dealings.

Money laundering:

"According to a New York Times article in 2000, Kaveladze, who immigrated to the U.S. in 1991 from Russia, once set up over 2,000 corporations for Russian brokers in Delaware and then opened bank accounts for them."

The report was part of a Congressional inquiry which was aimed to find out how easy it is for foreigners to hide their identities in companies and launder money through American banks.

The article said that over $800 million was wired from foreign countries to 236 bank accounts that Kaveladze opened for Russian clients through Citibank in the name of his company, International Business Creations. That money was then sent back to overseas accounts, government officials concluded.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/ike-k...ting-agalarov/

Sarn 07-18-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897301)
And wait for it.... He's a Russian money launderer and is on video with Donald Trump in Moscow at the Miss universe pageant. He created 2,000 businesses in Delaware and opened bank accounts for them. Now investigators are tracking where $800 million from Russia was disbursed from his dealings.

Money laundering:

"According to a New York Times article in 2000, Kaveladze, who immigrated to the U.S. in 1991 from Russia, once set up over 2,000 corporations for Russian brokers in Delaware and then opened bank accounts for them."

The report was part of a Congressional inquiry which was aimed to find out how easy it is for foreigners to hide their identities in companies and launder money through American banks.

The article said that over $800 million was wired from foreign countries to 236 bank accounts that Kaveladze opened for Russian clients through Citibank in the name of his company, International Business Creations. That money was then sent back to overseas accounts, government officials concluded.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/ike-k...ting-agalarov/

He is not a money launderer, he not enough brain for it. He just mafia - kidnapping, killing people, racket, drugs, prostitution and they linked with the prosecutor in Moscow. Money launderer it is Trump :1orglaugh

nico-t 07-18-2017 05:10 PM

lay off the drugs* guys.



(* propaganda)

Bladewire 07-18-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21897523)
He is not a money launderer, he not enough brain for it. He just mafia - kidnapping, killing people, racket, drugs, prostitution and they linked with the prosecutor in Moscow. Money launderer it is Trump

Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.

pimpmaster9000 07-18-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897976)
Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.


yes this is a common totally-not-money-laundering technique...you see he could not fit all the money in one bank account so he had to open 2000...they were out of bigger bank accounts that day but had a special deal on bulk...totally legit :2 cents:

Bladewire 07-18-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21898021)
yes this is a common totally-not-money-laundering technique...you see he could not fit all the money in one bank account so he had to open 2000...they were out of bigger bank accounts that day but had a special deal on bulk...totally legit :2 cents:

Right like your 1 time Gay sex makes you Gay for life not just experimenting one time even if you have a girlfriend?

Bladewire 07-18-2017 07:32 PM

A lawyer, a spy, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."

Rochard 07-18-2017 09:43 PM

Now we find out there was a secret meeting with Putin. The lies just never stop.

thommy 07-18-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21898291)
Now we find out there was a secret meeting with Putin. The lies just never stop.

G20 summit was possibly a good opportunity to discuss with putin the next elections in USA :-)

the two want to relieve all the stressed voters in the USA and take away the heavy burden of the decision.

Sarn 07-19-2017 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21897976)
Right he opened 2,000 business & bank accounts and put $800 million into them not to launder the money.

400 000$ in one bank account) not so big as 800 000 000$ in one)
But for laundering the money it is most stupid transactions and actions.
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21898231)
A lawyer, a spy-traitor, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."

+ Moscow prosecutor which sell them indulgences. I had written it before - they not interest adoption, children, countries - only money. It is Moscow's ethnic criminal band.

Aras Iskenderovich Agalarov - Azerbaijani-Russian oligarch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aras_Agalarov

MaDalton 07-19-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21898231)
A lawyer, a spy, a mob boss, and a money launder walk into a bar. The bartender says: "you guys must be here to talk about adoption."

ok, that was funny

Sarn 07-19-2017 04:47 AM

Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide, records show

Republican donor and operative from Chicago's North Shore who said he had tried to obtain Hillary Clinton's missing emails from Russian hackers killed himself in a Minnesota hotel room days after talking to The Wall Street Journal about his efforts, public records show.

In mid-May, in a room at a Rochester hotel used almost exclusively by Mayo Clinic patients and relatives, Peter W. Smith, 81, left a carefully prepared file of documents, including a statement police called a suicide note in which he said he was in ill health and a life insurance policy was expiring.
Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide, records show - Chicago Tribune

Barry-xlovecam 07-19-2017 04:59 AM

^^ red-hat nutter commits suicide.
move on, nothing to see

Sarn 07-19-2017 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21898795)
^^ red-hat nutter commits suicide.
move on, nothing to see

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/as...-large-169.jpg

Rochard 07-19-2017 07:17 AM

So eight people at a meeting that wasn't important, two of them were translators, even though everyone in the fucking room spoke English.

LOL.


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