AllClicks is the program that did the damage on my system.

And it appears that the damage is inflicted through a JS/Exploit file. Changes have been made to the system registry and are not detectable by ANY security, spy-bot, adware removal programs that I have tested to date.

It is only after upgrading McAfee anti-virus on Saturday and then doing a first-time install of Netscape on Sunday that the JS/exploit was detected when going to an Allclicks link.

I'm not really around until wed/thur but I thought I'd make a quick post regarding this slander.

If I ever decided to hijack browsers, it would be millions, not thousands. Insinuating I only had the traffic to grab 1,000s is slanderous.:1orglaugh

oh, and thequeen, it "elusive" not "allusive"

So, after this episode you will have a well-optimized and more secure system.

You should be thanking 12clicks, not hating him. :evil-laug

No, the word is allusive.

2. Having reference to something not fully expressed; containing an allusion

You figure it out oh wise one.

12 Clicks... read thru the evidence collected in the above thread...
You might be able to fool the loyal on this board...but the various electronic footprints your program has left tell the real story. All has and will continue to be well documented and forwarded to the FTC.

I still highly recommend anyone else who has been subjected to the same type of attack on your system, consult the FTC/FCC complaint URL's at the start of this thread.

In the context you used, it's elusive, I noticed that as well.

The word that I chose with forethought was allusive. He, nor you, seem to be the sharpest knive in the drawer.

Why does majority here live by the "If I ignore the problem, it'll disappear" mentality?

Someone bitches about spam, they're told to delete it and move on.
Someone bitches about chat/AIM/MSN bots, they're told to uninstall the program.
Someone bitches about browser hijacking and they're told install Ad-Aware or something similar.

allusion NOUN: 1. The act of alluding; indirect reference

the very first post refers to the culprit by name. no one alluded to 12clicks.

neither allusive nor ellusive fit what you're saying.

Pretend?

i believe the proper word is "retarded"...what this thread is quickly becoming.

Another dull knife.

Perhaps you might want to explain your choice of words, as opposed to sounding like even more of an idiot?

More interesting information on this Standard Internet exploit:

SPYWARE INFO FORUM http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/in...4922&hl=fassia

TECHIE RESOURCE SITE
http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/AutoSearch.html

Of additional interest is a reference in the second URL placed above. which states that some consumers and businesses that have been hit by this attack are redirected as follows:
"Any address bar search you do is sent to a single page, possibly at www.tunders.com"

A search of WHOIS quickly reveals that tunders.com is, as have been all of the other links discussed above, a STANDARD INTERNET owned and operated domain.

Also of interest is the part which states, Distribution - Unknown As Yet....

The information I have gathered thus far will be shared in very short order, and the same requests to forward complaints to the FTC will repeated, in hopes that the techies on the Spyware board will be even more convincing and eloquent in their determination of the source of this system exploit.

And 12-Clicks, at one point, if you would have said that this was all the work of an "evil affiliate", perhaps I would have been convinced. (Although I would have hunted them down as well). But, as discussed previously, the JS/Exploit comes directly from my test affiliate ALLClicks link.

Why don't you show us some "proof" that standard internet hijacks people's browsers. All you're doing is pointing the finger and not showing any proof. That might have been an SI affiliate that did this and not them directly.

It really doesn't make sense to me for them to hijack webmaster's browsers since you went to their affiliate page.

Lastly, McAffee really jumps the gun on these so called JS "exploits". Their determinations are more political than anything. They actually consider delay consoles "exploits" as well as dialers while Norton does not.

In short, I honestly don't buy what you're saying. If there was some sort of auto download exploit in the new IE it's likely that it would be exploited by many more people.

Also who made you the Internet Cop? Thanks to your FTC complaint I'm sure they're going to go after blind link programs in general. Thanks for making my job easier.

He says that he was Hijacked when he clicked on the link that they gave him, as an affilliate, that his surfers would be clicking on.

Have you read ANY of the above thread? I would suggest you read it all. That should explain a few things to you, and provides more then simply a smoking gun...

And the "alleged" culprit" link is the one that an affiliate uses with blind text to send consumers to Standard Internet online property...

And as far as the FTC goes, when a company's exploit causes mailicous damage to my system and other consumers' and businesses' systems, then the gloves are off.

Pathfinder, you're an idiot, plain and simple.

Still no response from the elusive 12clicks -- psycko please note the correct spelling of the word elusive here as well -- would have been the correct usage.

Your post indicates that 12clicks hadn't shown up to post yet, making him elusive, your dictionary reference to something unexpressed or alluded to makes no sense from a grammatical standpoint in this context whatsoever.

Of course your change of name and rip for your old one was pretty silly too, but that's a whole other can of worms.

also, please note the correct spelling of "psyko" :thumbsup

I hope you've consulted with an attorney before going as far as you have in this thread. Especially since you believe in what your saying pretty strongly...

Drama is one thing but sheeeit........ this still has a chance to get interesting.

yeah I know, its one of those words like Chocker that's so easy to mess up ;-}}}}

If you work the problem you too may come to understand my choosing to use the word allusive. I will give you a hint, "sarcasm".

Ok, so let me get this straight... you're an idiot.

Ok, I understand now.

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It is difficult for me to understand why some of you people are so obessed with PF. It is difficult for me to understand why you cannot accept the fact that a seventy year old man died of a stroke. Doing a quick search of PF's posts I quickly found at least one post where he had spoke about having had strokes.

On 07-02-2002 PF posted this and actually understated the extent of damage that having strokes had caused him. He had many strokes over a period of several years. It was clear to those that knew him that his memory had been affected, but probably not as clear to those that did not know him as he would have appeared to still be sharp to them. The last stroke that he had prior to his death left him partially paralyzed and with slurred speech. The doctor had told us that he would undoubedtly have a stroke that would kill him and there was not alot that could be done about it. We, the family, were prepared for his death on any given day. He also was a diabetic. At least two people that are members of this board knew him (three counting me) and at least one other member other than myself has posted that he is in fact dead. Read it, learn it, know it and get the fuck over it.


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Actually this is new information that I cannot recall ever hearing about. I am old and I have had a few minor strokes that have affected my memory to some extent, so I am not intellectually as sharpe as I used to be. It is possible that this info disappeared as did the "piano lessons".

I am intrigued by it and will read some more about it. One thing I did run across on one of the links:

http://www.thethresher.com/indiscreet.html

"The most frequently cited and circulated source of Bush-Nazi investigations/conspiranoia, George Bush-The Unauthorized Biography (a biography of George Herbert Walker Bush) by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, published in 1992, while well-documented, is also the most suspect. The problem is that Tarpley and Chaitkin are colleagues of the political cult leader Lyndon LaRouche. Not surprisingly, they insist on overlaying otherwise solidly researched data with wildly speculative interpretations. The book, originally published by LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, though "out of print," is ubiquitous on the web, and freely used and quoted by Bush conspiranoia buffs of all persuasions."

This makes me think that alot of what is said about this subject will have to be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently the government did take control of the company.
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Thank you for the compliment. PF was a great man, a unique man, a mans man, and a warrior. I have spent most of my life trying to emmulate him (unsuccessfully I might add), may he rest in peace.

Can you give us the definition of excuse?

I am the author of the use of the word. I understand the use of the word. Those that have a higher mental capacity than yours, I am certain, understand my choice of the word. It is "sarcasm", a play on word usage. Now that I have enlightened you, you can thank me later.

See post above "dizzy blond".

now the women-bashing stereotypes set in...poor debating technique from theking.

the correct phrase would have been 'the ALLUDED TO 12clicks' anyway, you freak. Allusive is an adjective.

isn't slut-o-honey supposed to come along and do a bit of disgusting flirting with you whenever you make an ass of yourself?

or is she another pathfinder alter ego? hrmmmm....

I am not debating. Why do you think I put dizzy blond in quotes? By the way I do place a "high value" on your opinion.

Danny boy...you are correct...for a change. Allusive is an adjective and I used it as an adjective. I may occasionally make an ass of myself...you on the other hand are an ass...and that is unalterable.

your vocabulary is as weak as your insults, you FUH-REAK!!!

Well...Danny boy...I do have to admit that "FUH-REAK" is a very sophisticated form of insult. I now have a greater admiration for your vocabulary. Ahh...how old are you again...Danny boy?

37, you illiterate monkey.

why?

Hmm...suffering with latent childhood...I understand now Danny boy. You may want to check with the local mental health clinic. They may be able to help you. You can thank me later.

Just curious if the FTC or FCC had responded to you 49thParralell?

they're calling him on the BatPhone now....

Excuse - noun - "The skin of a reason stuffed with a lie."

:thumbsup

hahaha

i found another company doing the same thing called digitalrooster. Its a bunch of BS. they always say you approved to it, yeah right