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Kimmykim 04-20-2003 01:01 PM

Am I missing something here?

"That is, until last week, when I decided to check out his AllClicks program at Standard Internet. Since clicking on the AllClicks Blind Link he provides to affiliates, the following has happened: "

I don't think you've laid anything out methodically since obviously I can infer from this statement that you signed up as an affiliate?

Perhaps you should clarify. Go slowly and pretend I'm a simpleton if that helps.

theking 04-20-2003 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Am I missing something here?

"That is, until last week, when I decided to check out his AllClicks program at Standard Internet. Since clicking on the AllClicks Blind Link he provides to affiliates, the following has happened: "

I don't think you've laid anything out methodically since obviously I can infer from this statement that you signed up as an affiliate?

Perhaps you should clarify. Go slowly and pretend I'm a simpleton if that helps.

Am I missing something here?

What does signing up as an affiliate or the terms of agreement have to do with the "hijacking" of a surfer's browser?

Perhaps you should clarify. Go slowly and pretend I'm a simpleton if that helps.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
And the point of my post is simple..
I think the point of the TWO posts that you made was to slander someone.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...15#post1633215

A methodical person might have sought out the individual and tried to work it out first as gentlemen.

12clicks might be a dink here at GFY...but I can attest to the fact that outside of this board, the dude was reasonable when it came to solving a problem. I contacted him personally and he was quick to respond to my concerns. Civility works sometimes.

jimmyf 04-20-2003 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Up until now, I didn't think 12-clicks was worth the time of day. That is, until last week, when I decided to check out his AllClicks program at Standard Internet. Since clicking on the AllClicks Blind Link he provides to affiliates, the following has happened:

a) A popup window stays resident on my computer. Every so often, it pops up a new window.
b) Any pages that can't be found redirect me to hitpointer.com and then an additional popup window...which all strangely enough have links on the pages which are ALL directed at other Standard Internet products. Searchtraffic, their cellular phone service, and on and on.

So, chances are pretty darn good that these annoyances were spawned from the original Standard Internet AllClicks product.

I have tried to remove this scumware using various software solutions, all to no avail. So, since this won't work, I have gone the next step... I have launched an official complaint with the FTC and the FCC. It seems that they might be interested in a company, which 12-clicks himself alludes to having an incredible marketshare, hijacking the browsers of 1,000's upon 1,000's of unwary consumers. Luckily, while in the adult industry there is a certain grey area as to what is legal and what is not, the law regarding browser hijacking has been tested and this type of practice is in fact illegal.

Have you had a similar experience: file a complaint here:

www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaintfiling.html
www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm

Try Spybot, it's FREE and finds stuff Ad-Ware doesn't find. Onlt thing Ad-Ware reports it as spyware (which it's NOT)

49thParallel 04-20-2003 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Am I missing something here?

"That is, until last week, when I decided to check out his AllClicks program at Standard Internet. Since clicking on the AllClicks Blind Link he provides to affiliates, the following has happened: "

I don't think you've laid anything out methodically since obviously I can infer from this statement that you signed up as an affiliate?

Perhaps you should clarify. Go slowly and pretend I'm a simpleton if that helps.

Yes KK, you are missing the very fundementals of this post. This IS NOT an affiliate issue...and whether I signed up as an affiliate once or signed up 100 times over, is simply not an issue. To call this an affiliate issue is simply deflection.

If you have followed any of my many posts on this board, you will know that before I promote anything other then my own products, I inspect the programs with a VERY fine toothed comb. I have heard Ron talk highly of his programs on numerous occassions. Since I have a tremendous volume of non-adult traffic, I am always interested in non-intrusive additions to my revenue stream. To this end, I am always looking for search engine links, or other surfer friendly additions to my sites.

To this end, I signed up for all of SI's products and then began to test them. (You are aware that to fully test a program, you need to get the actual links that your surfers will get...not simply a sample link included with the affiliate sign-up page). The rest is history.

So, now that the deflection and search for hidden agendas is complete, you can find the complaint links on the top of this thread.

jimmyf 04-20-2003 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith

And there are two sides to every story, regardless of what you think. You've made a public accusation here, in the middle of a long weekend. There certainly IS room for a rebuttal, and anyone blindly going to your posted links and lodging a complaint before hearing one should be flogged like a ratfaced weasel. Everyone has a right to have a say in their defence.

Yep, :thumbsup don't know how I could agree with you more.

jimmyf 04-20-2003 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
The in-fighting in this industry makes you want to beat someone over the head with a two-by-plank.


Repeatedly, in some cases. :Graucho

That's a
two-by-four.... not plank:winkwink:

rooster 04-20-2003 01:25 PM

yea really, at least give him a chance to make up some bs like it was a coding error or something.

CDSmith 04-20-2003 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
That's a
two-by-four.... not plank:winkwink:

Speak for yourself. When I get carryin' a big shitwacker, it's a plank. A big one. Hardwood.

Kimmykim 04-20-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
To this end, I signed up for all of SI's products and then began to test them. (You are aware that to fully test a program, you need to get the actual links that your surfers will get...not simply a sample link included with the affiliate sign-up page). The rest is history.

Somehow I doubt the rest is history and I'd bet there's more to this story than meets the eye.

49thParallel 04-20-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
Yep, :thumbsup don't know how I could agree with you more.
And again you miss the point for this thread. I am not looking for a public apology or a way to clean up the damage to my browser. That would fix my issues..but would leave thousands of other surfers vulnerable to the same underhanded techniques. Whether Ron hears of this through this bbs or through the FTC or FCC is a mute point.

If you read this thread carefully, you will see that I have been very careful in insuring that the source of the problems is in fact the Standard Internet link. (Read New Install of Netscape thread above).

If Ron does respond to this thread, I assume that his response will be the normal 12 clicks response, which usually goes something like this...."we can talk about this again later when you get home from the day job. Do you want fries with that?). So, the end result, we will have our little pissing match, and 1,000's of surfers will continue to have their browsers exploited.

But, by defending my actions, I am probably minimalizing the original complaint, so this is my final response. This thread was not started to produce controversy..but instead to get results.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
So, now that the deflection and search for hidden agendas is complete, you can find the complaint links on the top of this thread.
*********************

Federal Communications Commission
Consumer Complaint Form 475
For Telephone-Related Issues

FORM 475 - General Telephone-Related Issues

For general telephone complaints including billing disputes, cramming, taxes on phone bill, telephone company advertising practices, telephone information services, unsolicited telephone marketing calls and faxes, and accessibility by persons with disabilities to telecommunications equipment and services."

***********************

What is the connection between an EXPLOIT spotted by THIRD PARTY PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE (Norton) and the justification of your complaint ("hijacking my browser") ?

jimmyf 04-20-2003 01:36 PM

I bet 12clicks is still out HiJacking easter baskets.:1orglaugh :helpme Poor little kids.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


And again you miss the point for this thread. I am not looking for a public apology or a way to clean up the damage to my browser. That would fix my issues..but would leave thousands of other surfers vulnerable to the same underhanded techniques. Whether Ron hears of this through this bbs or through the FTC or FCC is a mute point.

So you really want to be the Sheriff then?

Thank god we've got looking out for all the surfers in the world.

I really think you should take some valium. Throw away your computer and buy another.

http://www.internetfl.com/police/shield.gif

jimmyf 04-20-2003 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


*********************

Federal Communications Commission
Consumer Complaint Form 475
For Telephone-Related Issues

FORM 475 - General Telephone-Related Issues

For general telephone complaints including billing disputes, cramming, taxes on phone bill, telephone company advertising practices, telephone information services, unsolicited telephone marketing calls and faxes, and accessibility by persons with disabilities to telecommunications equipment and services."

***********************

What is the connection between an EXPLOIT spotted by THIRD PARTY PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE (Norton) and the justification of your complaint ("hijacking my browser") ?

I see you just don't get it, Do you..:)

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup




I really think you should take some valium.

pass me a few of those.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
yea really, at least give him a chance to make up some bs like it was a coding error or something.
or a disgruntled former employee...

BTW rooster...Did you actually see the films BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE or ROGER AND ME?

CDSmith 04-20-2003 01:41 PM

I am convinced that somebody on this thread "just doesn't get it", that's for sure.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
I see you just don't get it, Do you..:)
i get the big picture...just some of the smaller details like LIFE evade me.

49thParallel 04-20-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


*********************

Federal Communications Commission
Consumer Complaint Form 475
For Telephone-Related Issues

FORM 475 - General Telephone-Related Issues

For general telephone complaints including billing disputes, cramming, taxes on phone bill, telephone company advertising practices, telephone information services, unsolicited telephone marketing calls and faxes, and accessibility by persons with disabilities to telecommunications equipment and services."

***********************

What is the connection between an EXPLOIT spotted by THIRD PARTY PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE (Norton) and the justification of your complaint ("hijacking my browser") ?

First, read from the start of my thread...you will see that the browser has been hijacked...and all links point back at SI. The McAfee virus detection was a secondary test and also came back conclusive.

As far as the correct complaint link, do not click on the first link you see. If you read further, you will find the contact info for other types of complaints. I instead, sent complaints via their email option, which covers "non-telephone" related complaints.

And you are correct, this may not be the best link, but with both FCC and FTC links provided, I would hope one would reach the correct destination.

MrPopup 04-20-2003 01:49 PM

I just hijacked 49thParallel's outlook express.


**************************
Deer fcc,

some stinkypants hijacked my browser. puhleez put him in jail.

btw, some guy said "Caveat Emptor" to me. Will you please arrest him too?...

Thanks,
49thParallel

jimmyf 04-20-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


i get the big picture...just some of the smaller details like LIFE evade me.

I have the same problem sometimes.:Graucho

Swiftone 04-20-2003 02:23 PM

I learned my lesson about using standard internet programs about a year ago, very bad people to do business with. This doesn't surprise me in the least.

cherrylula 04-20-2003 02:31 PM

Imagine if everytime you picked up your phone, it automatically dialed the home shopping network.

That would suck.

rowan 04-20-2003 02:34 PM

49thParallel - can you please post a sample link? Uncheck "Automatically parse URLs" below the text entry area, and perhaps add an obvious word into the domain name so that it must be copied then modified to be used - DON'T post if it can just be clicked!

Luc Duboi 04-20-2003 04:16 PM

MrPopUp = 12clicks.

Rich 04-20-2003 04:27 PM

I wonder if 12clicks is going to open his big fucking mouth in this thread?


:glugglug

Rich 04-20-2003 04:51 PM

hmm, I had a similar sounding program called "Xupiter" or some shit completly take over and old computer of mine. If I find out that's a Standard Internet program, I shit you not when I say I will fuck up 12clicks the next time he's acting like a big shot at a Vegas crap table.

Luc Duboi 04-20-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
hmm, I had a similar sounding program called "Xupiter" or some shit completly take over and old computer of mine. If I find out that's a Standard Internet program, I shit you not when I say I will fuck up 12clicks the next time he's acting like a big shot at a Vegas crap table.
:thumbsup

49thParallel 04-20-2003 08:18 PM

The hidden popup that I made reference to early has just appeared on my system, (as it does every couple of hours)....the url is imbedded right into my registry....

Here it is:

http://0-ol1oiz-xolxii1-oxli10ozl1l1.../npa/pop.html?

When examined further, this url calls up (through the system registry) adtrak.com - which is also a Standard Internet owned domain....

which then redirects to another adpage.

And the advertisement it popped up this time is as follows:

http://www.textlinks.com/ads/npa/GoodCredit.jpg

A quick search of the whois shows that textlinks.com is also owned by Standard Internet.

So, to recap, the damage the original ALLClicks SI link has inflicted so far is as follows:

Download of JS/exploit virus (as determined by McAfee)
Alteration of System Registry
Hijacking of browser error page

And, I repeat, if you have been hit with a similar exploit, the appropriate complaint urls are listed at the start of this thread.

HungSolo 04-20-2003 10:02 PM

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......................... .........

MrPopup 04-20-2003 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luc Duboi
MrPopUp = 12clicks.
shuddering.

cherrylula 04-20-2003 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luc Duboi
:thumbsup
Luc someone was just missing you in another thread. I forget which one. :glugglug

Porn Mickey 04-21-2003 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel

Have you had a similar experience: file a complaint here:

www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaintfiling.html
www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm

You're not alone :Graucho

Mr Pheer 04-21-2003 03:20 AM

does your pussy hurt? you sure bitch alot

theking 04-21-2003 10:56 AM

Where is 12clicks?

theking 04-21-2003 01:45 PM

Still no response from the allusive 12clicks.

Brujah 04-21-2003 01:50 PM

which of Standard Internet's programs do this ?

MrPopup 04-21-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Still no response from the allusive 12clicks.
its probably in his best interest to ignore this thread.

cluck 04-21-2003 02:39 PM

Did you check out your security settings? If you set them as high as you can and you still get it, you've been hijacked. If the script doesn't try to bypass any of your settings there shouldn't be anything wrong with it. I personally think adware's a great idea, it's something I've been experimenting with myself. If 12Clicks has already used this to its maximum potential good for him. Let him make his money.

As far as the comment about getting accused of hitbotting, I don't know if you were around when all those cheat groups were raping SI, but they got hit pretty hard. In fact, PPC would be dead had they not been the ones who really pushed forward and put some effort into chasing down these fucking 12 year olds with their proGGiez.

Plus the FTC sucks, if you make them start cracking down shit like this they'll probably eventually outlaw popups then hahahahahahahahahaha altogether.


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