yeah I know, its one of those words like Chocker that's so easy to mess up ;-}}}}

If you work the problem you too may come to understand my choosing to use the word allusive. I will give you a hint, "sarcasm".

Ok, so let me get this straight... you're an idiot.

Ok, I understand now.

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It is difficult for me to understand why some of you people are so obessed with PF. It is difficult for me to understand why you cannot accept the fact that a seventy year old man died of a stroke. Doing a quick search of PF's posts I quickly found at least one post where he had spoke about having had strokes.

On 07-02-2002 PF posted this and actually understated the extent of damage that having strokes had caused him. He had many strokes over a period of several years. It was clear to those that knew him that his memory had been affected, but probably not as clear to those that did not know him as he would have appeared to still be sharp to them. The last stroke that he had prior to his death left him partially paralyzed and with slurred speech. The doctor had told us that he would undoubedtly have a stroke that would kill him and there was not alot that could be done about it. We, the family, were prepared for his death on any given day. He also was a diabetic. At least two people that are members of this board knew him (three counting me) and at least one other member other than myself has posted that he is in fact dead. Read it, learn it, know it and get the fuck over it.


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Actually this is new information that I cannot recall ever hearing about. I am old and I have had a few minor strokes that have affected my memory to some extent, so I am not intellectually as sharpe as I used to be. It is possible that this info disappeared as did the "piano lessons".

I am intrigued by it and will read some more about it. One thing I did run across on one of the links:

http://www.thethresher.com/indiscreet.html

"The most frequently cited and circulated source of Bush-Nazi investigations/conspiranoia, George Bush-The Unauthorized Biography (a biography of George Herbert Walker Bush) by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, published in 1992, while well-documented, is also the most suspect. The problem is that Tarpley and Chaitkin are colleagues of the political cult leader Lyndon LaRouche. Not surprisingly, they insist on overlaying otherwise solidly researched data with wildly speculative interpretations. The book, originally published by LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, though "out of print," is ubiquitous on the web, and freely used and quoted by Bush conspiranoia buffs of all persuasions."

This makes me think that alot of what is said about this subject will have to be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently the government did take control of the company.
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Thank you for the compliment. PF was a great man, a unique man, a mans man, and a warrior. I have spent most of my life trying to emmulate him (unsuccessfully I might add), may he rest in peace.

Can you give us the definition of excuse?

I am the author of the use of the word. I understand the use of the word. Those that have a higher mental capacity than yours, I am certain, understand my choice of the word. It is "sarcasm", a play on word usage. Now that I have enlightened you, you can thank me later.

See post above "dizzy blond".

now the women-bashing stereotypes set in...poor debating technique from theking.

the correct phrase would have been 'the ALLUDED TO 12clicks' anyway, you freak. Allusive is an adjective.

isn't slut-o-honey supposed to come along and do a bit of disgusting flirting with you whenever you make an ass of yourself?

or is she another pathfinder alter ego? hrmmmm....

I am not debating. Why do you think I put dizzy blond in quotes? By the way I do place a "high value" on your opinion.

Danny boy...you are correct...for a change. Allusive is an adjective and I used it as an adjective. I may occasionally make an ass of myself...you on the other hand are an ass...and that is unalterable.

your vocabulary is as weak as your insults, you FUH-REAK!!!

Well...Danny boy...I do have to admit that "FUH-REAK" is a very sophisticated form of insult. I now have a greater admiration for your vocabulary. Ahh...how old are you again...Danny boy?

37, you illiterate monkey.

why?

Hmm...suffering with latent childhood...I understand now Danny boy. You may want to check with the local mental health clinic. They may be able to help you. You can thank me later.

Just curious if the FTC or FCC had responded to you 49thParralell?

they're calling him on the BatPhone now....

Excuse - noun - "The skin of a reason stuffed with a lie."

:thumbsup

hahaha

i found another company doing the same thing called digitalrooster. Its a bunch of BS. they always say you approved to it, yeah right

Awesome - Hey push some of that traffic my way Big Boy.

moral of the story: use Netscape ;)))

hey, when I hit a non-existant domain and it 404's in explorer, it goes to MSN search! fuckers! I'm off to log my complaint with the FTC now!


I was just wondering if all that was installed was a little window popper...is that REALLY "malicious"?

May not be really malicious, but it would definitely piss me the fuck off :)

:1orglaugh

Only reason I'd be dizzy is from running in circles too fast around your pea brain.

You keep sticking to your story about sarcasm, and we'll keep laughing. With irony as your fib, you might have had a chance at pulling it off, or claiming there was a pun intended, you might have bought some believers.

Referring to yourself as the higher intellect around here is oxymoronic, but then you were probably being sarcastic that time too, eh Pathfinder?

:1orglaugh

well people who say "god bless you" after I sneeze pisses me off....maybe I should complain to the FTC, the FBI, the CIA and the WWE?

pissing off doesn't equal illegal or malicious....

Read the entire thread...then make your comments.

And to someone else's question..the FCC has responded..with their complaint escalation form...and further info for the proper escalation channels for the FTC....

But more importantly, is this a dead issue...certainly not! I will continue to push forward....

oh look, its the weekend and our half wit warrior showed up.
I can't wait for him to actually talk to someone at the FTC and they tell him he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
:1orglaugh

12 Clicks...you have a choice here...fix your program or fix your rogue affiliate, if you choose to point the finger at them instead.

But read through this thread carefully. There is a VERY strong electronic trail to your program. You yourself constantly brag about how your system can detect any cheater. And the industry press tends to agree with this statement that SI has some of the strongest anti-cheat technology avaialbe.

And yet, again I suggest you read through the thread..I have shown that the offending pages go through a redirection chain of not one, not 2, but 3 or more of your registered domains. Now come-on, are you trying to tell me that your anti-cheat system allows a rogue program to hijack 3 or more of your domains , and then bring up even more of SI owned ad pages...and yet SI knows nothing about this.

And, it was YOUR link, directly from my test affiliate sign-up at ALLClicks, that downloaded a JS/exploit to my system...

And I had colleagues recreate this same issue...and will sign affidavids to this effect....you see, you made a veiled threat of "slander". I take that seriously, just as you should take my research seriously. So, I have taken extraordinary measures to record all evidence which points to SI.

Sorry mate, your "look who's shown up for the weekend" reply doesn't cut it...you may be able to fool some of the foolishly faithful on this board...but on the other hand...your posts continue to bring this thread back to the limelight...which will hopefully encourage others to report malicious abuses to the FTC.

ah, I suggest you stop clicking the "yes" button when you're asked, if you're sure you want to download something.

You have an electronic trail to no where, you just have a lot of resentment for your betters.

No wonder you don't work on the net full time. You're clueless as to how it works or what you even see in your browser.

again, if you knew ANYTHING about the internet, you would know what really happened (and be able to do more than just surf the web on weekends)

colleagues? you mean the guys you trade dirty pictures with on AOL?
A veiled threat? I never make veiled threats. If I decide to ruin someone, I'll come out and say it without a veil. I made a claim that you slandered me. You did. How dare you imply that I could only hijack 1000s of browsers a day??? :1orglaugh


the rants of a weekend warrior assclown on a chatboard?
not likely. :1orglaugh


Run into the living room and show mommy? Thats not extraordinary for you, its typical.

Cut it? I'm making fun of you. its not meant to cut anything. :1orglaugh

It would appear that no one else is buying your rant either. the "foolishly faithful" put as much wieght in the rants of a weekend warrior as I do, thats why we don't have to run off to the *real* job come monday.
hahahahahahaha

I did read it, you moron
I still don't see what SI did as "malicious"

You got your feelings hurt due to a little window popper...is it a pisser? sure, but hardly malicious....

as for the foolishly faithful

Ron, have I ever been faithful to you? do I even send you traffic?
49thparalegal, how can I be faithful to someone I don't even send traffic to or have business interest with whatsoever?



So, Ron, you have any of that "malicious" traffic for sale?

nope, as I remember it, we're always on opposite sides of issues.



No way, I'm keeping it all for myself. with the 49thparallels clicking their own links, I'll make a fortune!:1orglaugh

except this one...

oops, does this mean I'm beginning down the road to faithfulness??

its so sad to see how some people continue to do serious asskissing.... :2 cents:

Your credit card will not be billed for wasting your time reading this inane thread. We only need the number to verify your age.

Sad, but true....

But, no worries, this issue is far from over...

yup, everyone kissing 49thparalegal's ass thinking if they appear to wear a white hat they will be one of the good guys...

Keep us all informed you canadian ponce.:1orglaugh

Is there a point to any of this? I want the five minutes I spent reading this thread back.

heh "bless you!"

I never said shit about bringing a complaint to the FTC or anysuch thing. Just was saying it would piss me off *IF* true. I have yet to have my browser hijacked by anything, but if it did happen I would be pissed...

But mostly I would be pissed at myself for not knowing how to use my PC....

Sure thing, my little buttercup...

Maybe Kazza set his security settings too low on IE. :1orglaugh

49thParallel don't you have anything better to do than troll? Whenever I goto SI related sites, I see active X certificates CERTIFIED by Verisign.

Hmmm...from what I see, at least on your site, you only cheat the webmaster. (Except for a JS/Noclose warning or two)

So let me get this straight. You pay 4 cents per blind link, IF the surfer clicks on a link on your first ad page. But then you pop-up a shit load of additional windows behind and after the first page, which do not have the affiliates linking code on them. So you get tons of free traffic and your webmasters get a big fat zippo, zilch, not-a.

So what does the webmaster get from your wonderful program...let's see, a slim chance of getting a click through on the first paying window...at least 3 script "click here to download" type windows, 3 pop-up windows, and then a hidden delayed window, which continues to spawn a few more windows.

I'm sure you have your fans, but ANYONE, and I Mean ANYONE could make a ton more with their own, much less annoying, exit chain.

:winkwink:

:waaaaahh



fuckin crybaby

yup, welcome to the world of pay per click affiliate programs....

this why I've never sent SI a single click, not that I think I'll egt ripped off or Ron is going to run off to Vegas to play Blackjack with my money...but I know what my clicks are worth...

also, remember who sends to a blindclick program...people who either have total shite traffic to begin with or people who don't know the value of their traffic....

If Mojo and Ron can make money from that traffic, and apparantly they do, then more power to them...

but it's hardly malicious...

And that's why this thread should die...the original point is getting lost...to recap, here was the original point:

a) Click on SI link from AllClicks program
b) Link pops up a window or 2 AND executes JS/Exploit
c) JS Exploit changes System Registry files
d) Changes browser error pages
e) Installs a time delayed popup that can not be eliminated and stays resident in your system
f) Installs a total of 4 files in system registry
g) Also installs an executable. This is done in the background...which makes the JS Exploit such a dangerous virus.
h) The registry items are read at start-up, which puts additional load on the user's system, and slows down boot-up, costing companies and individuals in lost productivity.

So, yes, malicious. And no, an "yes I accept" type button did not need to be pressed to allow the above. The JS Exploit simply does it's damage with NO user interaction.

Oddly, SI now does have a "Yes I accept" type pop-up window which has appeared since the introduction of this thread, and the JS Exploitfeature has apparently been disabled. (And of course 12-clicks will deny this). But it matters not to me if SI's malicious activities cease due to actual FTC intervention. As long as the actions are stopped, it's all good.

yup, you see what you want to see don't you halfwit?:1orglaugh

wow, with an imagination like that, its no wonder your browser is unusable. I suggest you stop confusing us with the russian kp sites you sign up for.
This doesn't even remotely resemble what we do, but then what would you expect from a weekend warrior, the truth? :1orglaugh

we pay 1st click dope.
such a bitter little boy to invent lies like this.

looks like the FTC told you to fuck off huh?
lies won't hurt me either assclown. I've been teflon for a while.
But go ahead and roll out the rest of your lies, after all its sunday, only a few hours of internet left for you before you're off to the real job.:1orglaugh

No, 12-Clicks....you I am still going full steam ahead with.

All of the information you quoted above was in response to Candidclicks...he wanted to play the game, so I took a look at his program. (Notice that his response was quoted at the start of my reply). But, his program just plays the standard games...not the tricks that your program plays. Now, if you had quoted the next post, which starts, a) Click on the SI link...
then you would be on the right track. But don't worry, my little bunky...when the whole entire thread above (except for the one post you quoted) is about your company...it's easy to see how you would make such a simple mistake.

12-Clicks, as a parting comment...I have mentioned this to you so many times before....you must move on past your "one trick pony" responses. I swear, EVERY single thread I can find in which you TRY to take a swing at someone ends like this...

"go back to your real job"
"do you want fries with that"
"put on your paper hat"
..little laughing head

But alas, I should depart - (because of my need to get ready for my "real job", no doubt) - but if you really want to quote me....why don't you quote the parts of the thread above which outline (in detail) the damage which I have shown originated from a SI link. Sooner or later, at least a few members of this board will notice that your responses are based on deflection...and not addressing the real issues at hand.

As a recap, if your system has been comprimised by the actions of a system like SI, please visit:

www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm

And for a more detailed description of this exploit, go to:
http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/AutoSearch.html

Take note of this author's research which shows that the exploit that he discovered also returned a Standard Internet domain, www.tunders.com -


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