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Old 04-20-2003, 02:18 AM   #1
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:stoned Revoke Michael Moore's Oscar! Here's how.

Michael Moore, the anti-gun film maker who recently won an Academy Award for
his film Bowling for Columbine, is now the target of an online effort that
seeks to have his Oscar® revoked. RevoketheOscar.com (click on link below)
includes information on how to contact the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts
and Sciences, which awarded the prize, and offers guidance on how to
effectively communicate the message that Moore`s award should be rescinded.
The general argument that Moore`s movie should never have been nominated,
much less given the award, because it doesn`t qualify as a documentary under
the Academy`s own rules is supported both on the site, and via links to
numerous articles about Moore`s movie.


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Old 04-20-2003, 02:20 AM   #2
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Michael Moore, the anti-gun film maker who recently won an Academy Award for
his film Bowling for Columbine, is now the target of an online effort that
seeks to have his Oscar® revoked. RevoketheOscar.com (click on link below)
includes information on how to contact the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts
and Sciences, which awarded the prize, and offers guidance on how to
effectively communicate the message that Moore`s award should be rescinded.
The general argument that Moore`s movie should never have been nominated,
much less given the award, because it doesn`t qualify as a documentary under
the Academy`s own rules is supported both on the site, and via links to
numerous articles about Moore`s movie.


http://www.revoketheoscar.com
Don't people have anything better to do?

Who fucking cares about Michael Moore's Oscar. The Academy Awards are a farce anyway.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:22 AM   #3
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I looked at the site.

What a bunch of fucking whiners.

You can pick any documentary ever made and make the same arguments they try to make about Moore.

The more they whine about Moore, though, the more books and movies he sells. He probably loves it.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:22 AM   #4
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Don't people have anything better to do?

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Old 04-20-2003, 02:22 AM   #5
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I've not seen the film but his book Stupid White Men was very good.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:27 AM   #6
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I think he is a straight up piece of shit, and quite the ignorant moronic fuckwit....

however, I STRONGLY support his right to be an asshole and speak his mind, however it may come off as....





hell, as and afterthought my ass was willing to give my life in the defense of fuckwits like that for 12+ years.... I shock even myself at times...
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:29 AM   #7
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His next film will be in New York, let them take care of the dipweed!!


He has his award but he lost so much more!
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He has his award but he lost so much more!
Like what?
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:36 AM   #9
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i'm looking forward to his next film.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:38 AM   #10
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We are a great country because of people like him and our ability to allow and promote such expression....

don't think it'd be great to not have people like him...

that'd just be succumbing to more of 1984 that Bush/A.s.h.c.r.o.f.t. totalitarianism are already forcing on us....


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Old 04-20-2003, 03:06 AM   #11
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I looked at the site.

What a bunch of fucking whiners.

You can pick any documentary ever made and make the same arguments they try to make about Moore.

The more they whine about Moore, though, the more books and movies he sells. He probably loves it.
hahah so true.
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Old 04-20-2003, 04:21 AM   #12
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where can i fill in a form to get Titanic's best picture oscar revoked?
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:10 AM   #13
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where can i fill in a form to get Titanic's best picture oscar revoked?
LOL! That was one of the few films I never watched the end of - a complete pile of crap.

Moore may be an ass but 'Bowling' was well done - just because he points out some uncomfortable (lies, damn lies &)statistics doesn't make him a bad man
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same people that report sites at google, because their own spots suck ass.
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same people that report sites at google, because their own spots suck ass.
Except there's really nothing to report Michael Moore for.
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:50 AM   #16
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Except there's really nothing to report Michael Moore for.
Actually, there is - just not for the reason the website is reporting. Michael Moore has admitted that many parts of his "documentary" were staged, planned, falsified, etc. IOW, it's NOT a documentary. He won the award for a documentary.

Since he won the best documentary for this movie, I feel there should be a retroactive Best Documentary Oscar awarded to "This is Spinal Tap".
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people need to get over it...not like there is a dangling chad involved here
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I cant believe when adult webmasters support right wing bullshit. Michael Moore is very successful and he got away with slaming the President and wasnt made a outcast (aka Dixie chicks) So now they have to come after him and just because someone writes a article why are we so quick to embrace it as real. I saw the movie, I am not extreme left by far. He had some very valid points about our culture and others. How one of those articles could be a opt in from the WSJ against the idea its people who kill not guns. When years ago in the same paper there was a editoral on a little town in Swizterland, that has more guns per capita than anywhere in the world. They have a big shooting fesitval , where men, women and children as young as 11 are carrying guns and shooting in this festival. They have no gun crime in this town. Keep jumping on these right wing bandwagons and when they turn to us, I hope you have another skill or its back to Mickyd's. lol

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Actually, there is - just not for the reason the website is reporting. Michael Moore has admitted that many parts of his "documentary" were staged, planned, falsified, etc. IOW, it's NOT a documentary. He won the award for a documentary.


Sounds like CNN's news.

btw I fully support everything he said...maybe the rest if you need to open your eyes.
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LOL! That was one of the few films I never watched the end of - a complete pile of crap.

Moore may be an ass but 'Bowling' was well done - just because he points out some uncomfortable (lies, damn lies &)statistics doesn't make him a bad man
It's been proven that most of the "sensational" parts of that movie were staged. It makes me lose all respect for him. I went from appreciating his work to despising him in less than 2 seconds after reading about how he staged most of "Bowling for Columbine".
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:10 AM   #21
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Why waste your time trying to revoke his Oscar when you could be doing more productive things?

I couldn't care less if he loses his Oscar or keeps it. I just don't understand why people would go through so much effort
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exactly how much do you know about the other films nominated to tell me nothing in them was staged or not a single retake was done, etc?
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I don't like what Moore said at the Awards, and I really don't think he needed to make his own personal views public record at an industry event (like anyone would have thought he'd be pro-Bush, anyway) - but he won the award, and thats that.

So he is anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-establishment. Big deal. Lot's of Americans are. No need for a witch hunt. If you hate his guts, don't give him any press.
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Michael Moore, the anti-gun film maker who recently won an Academy Award for
his film Bowling for Columbine, is now the target of an online effort that
seeks to have his Oscar® revoked. RevoketheOscar.com (click on link below)
includes information on how to contact the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts
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The general argument that Moore`s movie should never have been nominated,
much less given the award, because it doesn`t qualify as a documentary under
the Academy`s own rules is supported both on the site, and via links to
numerous articles about Moore`s movie.


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"Michael Moore is using sophisticated wave-form analysis technology to argue that CNN amplified the booing in its re-broadcast of his George Bush-bashing Oscar speech. According to a posting on Moore's Web site, "CNN and CNN Headline News aired a significantly different audio response to Moore's speech than was originally broadcast on ABC. It seems that someone has manipulated the audio to give the impression there was constant loud 'booing' throughout Moore's speech, when in reality, there was only marginal booing often overridden with cheers and applause. This needs to be fully investigated . . . ere we have a clear and shocking example of unethical behavior through manipulation of an historic event." Moore has posted a digitized version of the ABC and CNN footage along with MP3s of the audio, as well as a wave form analysis of both clips. A CNN rep snorts, "It's ridiculous. That's our response."
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"Michael Moore is using sophisticated wave-form analysis technology to argue that CNN amplified the booing in its re-broadcast of his George Bush-bashing Oscar speech. According to a posting on Moore's Web site, "CNN and CNN Headline News aired a significantly different audio response to Moore's speech than was originally broadcast on ABC. It seems that someone has manipulated the audio to give the impression there was constant loud 'booing' throughout Moore's speech, when in reality, there was only marginal booing often overridden with cheers and applause. This needs to be fully investigated . . . ere we have a clear and shocking example of unethical behavior through manipulation of an historic event." Moore has posted a digitized version of the ABC and CNN footage along with MP3s of the audio, as well as a wave form analysis of both clips. A CNN rep snorts, "It's ridiculous. That's our response."
That would be as outrageous as, say, TIME magazine altering a photo of OJ SImpson to make him appear as a much darker black man. Hogwash!
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"Michael Moore is very successful and he got away with slaming the President and wasnt made a outcast (aka Dixie chicks) "



He was booed off the stage by a bunch of hollywood types. Just think how normal americans would treat that barrel of shit. His only audiance is the far left and people that hate america. Thats why hes so popular in france.
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He was booed off the stage by a bunch of hollywood types. Just think how normal americans would treat that barrel of shit. His only audiance is the far left and people that hate america. Thats why hes so popular in france.
Yup...you sure know everything. Although the stats are right from his site with his own slant it certainly disproves your point.



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-- On the day after I criticized Bush and the war at the Academy Awards, attendance at "Bowling for Columbine" in theaters around the country went up 110% (source: Daily Variety/BoxOfficeMojo.com). The following weekend, the box office gross was up a whopping 73% (Variety). It is now the longest-running consecutive commercial release in America, 26 weeks in a row and still thriving. The number of theaters showing the film since the Oscars has INCREASED, and it has now bested the previous box office record for a documentary by nearly 300%.

-- Yesterday (April 6), "Stupid White Men" shot back to #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. This is my book's 50th week on the list, 8 of them at number one, and this marks its fourth return to the top position, something that virtually never happens.

-- In the week after the Oscars, my website was getting 10-20 million hits A DAY (one day we even got more hits than the White House!). The mail has been overwhelmingly positive and supportive (and the hate mail has been hilarious!).

-- In the two days following the Oscars, more people pre-ordered the video for "Bowling for Columbine" on Amazon.com than the video for the Oscar winner for Best Picture, "Chicago."

-- In the past week, I have obtained funding for my next documentary, and I have been offered a slot back on television to do an updated version of "TV Nation"/ "The Awful Truth."
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lol, your such a sheep.


And my website got 100 million hits the day after I called mrpopup a leftist tool. Its true !
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Just think how normal americans would treat that barrel of shit.
White America is normal america right? Your mouth sure looks purty. Have you even seen the movie?

All these stats certainly prove that nobody pays attention to him.

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Michael Moore is an accomplished filmmaker, TV personality, and author. A former School Board member at the age of 18, he was also one of the youngest people in the country ever to be elected to public office. Moore is best known for his award winning landmark documentary Roger & Me, the story of his relentless quest to confront General Motors Chairman Roger Smith about the devastating effects that GM?s downsizing had on the town of Flint, Michigan. The highest-grossing, non-concert documentary of all time, Roger & Me appeared on more than 100 critics? Ten Best Films of the Year lists and won numerous awards for Best Documentary from film festivals across the country.

Moore?s follow up film, The Big One also received rave reviews and was the largest grossing documentary of 1998. Moore?s latest documentary feature, 2002?s Bowling for Columbine, was selected as the first non-fiction film to compete in Cannes in 46 years and won the Cannes 55th Anniversary Prize, a prize awarded only every five years.

On television, Moore served as producer, director, writer, and host for the Emmy-Award winning TV Nation and the Emmy-nominated The Awful Truth. Both shows blend topical news stories from around the world with Moore?s unique brand of entertainment. In 1995, Moore won the Most Promising Producer Award from the Producers? Guild of America and an Emmy for the Most Outstanding Informational Series.

Moore is also the best-selling author of Downsize This! Random Threats From an Unarmed American, Adventures in a TV Nation, and most recently, Stupid White Men.
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lol, your such a sheep.
Instead of deflecting Mr. Red Herring....answer the question.

Have you seen the movie Bowling for Columbine or Roger and Me?
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contraversy creates curiosity. I could go kill 100 people tommorow, and my name would probbly be one of googles most searched for terms.
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contraversy creates curiosity. I could go kill 100 people tommorow, and my name would probbly be one of googles most searched for terms.
Have you seen the films?
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Even if parts of his movie were dramatized, his message is important and needs to be said.

I would give him his Oscar AND a firm pat on the back.
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still when the last documentry you have seen was 'I am joe's liver' in 8th grade I guess debating the finer details of the nominations is only natural.
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still when the last documentry you have seen was 'I am joe's liver' in 8th grade I guess debating the finer details of the nominations is only natural.




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He was booed off the stage by a bunch of hollywood types. Just think how normal americans would treat that barrel of shit. His only audiance is the far left and people that hate america. Thats why hes so popular in france.
I love this country and have leftist leanings....see, I love America for this great freedom we have called Freedom Of Speech, maybe you and the rest of the knuckle scraping unibrow types need to learn that...I love how you think because you paid more for your flag at Wal-Mart (that was probably made in Taiwan anyways) you represent America...
in America, we all have this right to freedom of speech...right, left, middle, whatever...whether that speech is moronic or not is beside the point...anyone can defend popular speech....

so, who's the biggest sheep....those who actually speak their mind...or those who spout patriotic ramblings fed to them on country radio stations and conservative talkradio programs......

sheep aren't right or left...they're just easily led and fed.....
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:56 PM   #43
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I could care less if they give him another oscar or take the one he has away. I wonder how he got oscar for a
documentary when Bowling for Columbine was not a documentary. I saw the Lew Dobbs interview on CNN and fat ass
Moore said it was a Comedy. So how do you get an oscar for a documentary when the person that made it SAID it
was a comedy. So I protest the oscars.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:10 PM   #44
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He was booed off the stage by a bunch of hollywood types. Just think how normal americans would treat that barrel of shit. His only audiance is the far left and people that hate america. Thats why hes so popular in france.
His book is number three this week on the New York Times bestseller list and it has been on the list, mostly in the top 10, often at number one, for 53 weeks.

That list only includes people in American, not France.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:14 PM   #45
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so, who's the biggest sheep....those who actually speak their mind...or those who spout patriotic ramblings fed to them on country radio stations and conservative talkradio programs......
Cry "sheep" all you want, but these views no less valid than any other. Liberals attempt to invalidate a whole class of speech just because it mirrors those reflected on "country radio stations" or "conservative talkradio programs." Somehow, all independent thought must be automatically bypassed if people agree with these "patriotic ramblings."

The bias and arrogance to suggest that people with these views don't actually "speak their mind" is astonishing. This is what we see all the time from Hollywood people like Moore, Sarandon and Robbins.
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:22 PM   #46
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Cry "sheep" all you want, but these views no less valid than any other. Liberals attempt to invalidate a whole class of speech just because it mirrors those reflected on "country radio stations" or "conservative talkradio programs." Somehow, all independent thought must be automatically bypassed if people agree with these "patriotic ramblings."

The bias and arrogance to suggest that people with these views don't actually "speak their mind" is astonishing. This is what we see all the time from Hollywood people like Moore, Sarandon and Robbins.
I agree, all views are valid and I was using country radio, etc. as an example...but have you been to a country music concert lately? have you ever spoken to some of these types? they are just as much sheep as those who would listen to Susan Sarandon and automaticallt parrot what she says....both sides have their sheep...

So, is it any less arrogant to suggest that "Hollywood types" have opinions that are less valuable than Rush Limbaugh?

I agree both right and left have their share of sheep and idiots....

and I'll defend to the death BOTH sides' rights to their speech...

I know
the right always argues that "Hollywood Elite" is bad and evil
the left always argues that "country folk and dittoheads" are bad and evil...

but, what makes this country so fucking great is that both sides have equal rights to freedom of speech....
er, are supposed to anyways...
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How many of you in this thread have seen it and was it before or after the award?

I saw it before.
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So, is it any less arrogant to suggest that "Hollywood types" have opinions that are less valuable than Rush Limbaugh?
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No. We both agree on this. I just thought your example appeared one-sided.
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How many of you in this thread have seen it and was it before or after the award?

I saw it before.
i saw it once before and once after.
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No. We both agree on this. I just thought your example appeared one-sided.
it was, but only in the context of replying to the other post ;)
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