Civilian casualties vs military casualties - GoFuckYourself.com

Libertine · 04-15-2003, 11:46 AM

It seems in most discussions that people think the Iraqi people will only see civilian casualties as a reason to hate America. However, the Iraqi soldiers that died (thousands) are all sons, fathers and brothers of other Iraqi people, and chances are that many of those people will hate America forever.

playa · 04-15-2003, 11:57 AM

i don't think so,, it's not like they had a choice to fight,

I even seen a family accepted apolgize from a marine who shot their family members because of a suicide bomber in a car that wouldn't stop, the marines even helped them bury their dead members

Libertine · 04-15-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by playa
i don't think so,, it's not like they had a choice to fight,

I even seen a family accepted apolgize from a marine who shot their family members because of a suicide bomber in a car that wouldn't stop, the marines even helped them bury their dead members

You have got to be kidding me. (and no, I'm not questioning if you saw that on tv or not)

ADL Colin · 04-15-2003, 12:07 PM

Punkworld.

I've thought the same thing and there are LOTS of them.

Bex · 04-15-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by playa
i don't think so,, it's not like they had a choice to fight,

Think about it ... All that means is that they hate the iraqi regime for putting them there to die. And they hate the americans for squashing them like bugs with 2000 lb bombs!

Libertine · 04-15-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Colin
Punkworld.

I've thought the same thing and there are LOTS of them.

A strong independant Iraqi government might be able to prevent it from having severe consequences, at least, that's what I hope.

playa · 04-15-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

You have got to be kidding me. (and no, I'm not questioning if you saw that on tv or not)

true or false question,
did the iraqi military force people to become suicide bombers?

Simon-interaid · 04-15-2003, 12:28 PM

US "Liberated " them.

These people will be sending flowers to George Bush.

Didn't you see the 200 people in the streets holding the Go america signs ?

I am sure the rest 25,000,000 people feel the same way.

They all love the US , US liberated them and is getting rid of their "weapons of mass destruction".

Simon-interaid · 04-15-2003, 12:30 PM

See how Afganistan has become a paradise now?

Their president doesn't have power 1 inch beyond Kabul.

US liberated Afghanistan and once the Oil companies start pubmping the Oil I am sure "ALL" the money will be going towards the dear people of Iraq.

Libertine · 04-15-2003, 12:32 PM

playa, are you now seriously trying to say that all the Iraqi people blame Saddam for everything? Because that's simply not the case. Not even for the ones that hated the old regime.

Most Iraqi's were and are against Saddam, yes, however many if not most were and are against America just as much, just like in most other Middle-Eastern countries. And, believe it or not, many do blame America for killing their sons/fathers/brothers/friends.

iroc409 · 04-15-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
playa, are you now seriously trying to say that all the Iraqi people blame Saddam for everything? Because that's simply not the case. Not even for the ones that hated the old regime.

Most Iraqi's were and are against Saddam, yes, however many if not most were and are against America just as much, just like in most other Middle-Eastern countries. And, believe it or not, many do blame America for killing their sons/fathers/brothers/friends.

i gots an idea. fuck 'em and let god sort 'em out.

mule · 04-15-2003, 12:45 PM

Many people in most Arab countries have hated the US for a long time, for meddling in middle eastern politics. (That's the main reason, there are many others, ranging from "Americans are arrogant" through "all Americans chew gum" to "Americans mispronounce our names") After this whole Afghanistan/Iraq/possibly Syria/God alone knows who else debacle, I think it's safe to say that MOST people in ALL Arab countries now hate the US.

Steve · 04-15-2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by mule
Many people in most Arab countries have hated the US for a long time, for meddling in middle eastern politics. (That's the main reason, there are many others, ranging from "Americans are arrogant" through "all Americans chew gum" to "Americans mispronounce our names") After this whole Afghanistan/Iraq/possibly Syria/God alone knows who else debacle, I think it's safe to say that MOST people in ALL Arab countries now hate the US.

so you're saying nothing has changed, right?

kenny · 04-15-2003, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Simon-interaid
See how Afganistan has become a paradise now?

Their president doesn't have power 1 inch beyond Kabul.

US liberated Afghanistan and once the Oil companies start pubmping the Oil I am sure "ALL" the money will be going towards the dear people of Iraq.

It was so great before when they grinded up bugs to mix with wheat so they have enough bread to go around. That country has been fucked bro, it takes alot of time to fix that shit.

Simon-interaid · 04-15-2003, 01:16 PM

I think the main reason why Arabs dislike the US is solely because of the Unconditional Love towards Israel.

mule · 04-15-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Steve

so you're saying nothing has changed, right?

No, I didn't say that. You don't read very well.

Steve · 04-15-2003, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by mule

No, I didn't say that. You don't read very well.

I don't see the big difference if 7 out 10 Arabs hate me, or if 9 out of 10 Arabs hate me - the end result is I (a US citizen) am not well liked by the majority of Arabs

04-15-2003, 11:46 AM	#1
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Civilian casualties vs military casualties It seems in most discussions that people think the Iraqi people will only see civilian casualties as a reason to hate America. However, the Iraqi soldiers that died (thousands) are all sons, fathers and brothers of other Iraqi people, and chances are that many of those people will hate America forever. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

04-15-2003, 12:07 PM	#4
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Punkworld. I've thought the same thing and there are LOTS of them. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

04-15-2003, 12:28 PM	#8
Simon-interaid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 814	US "Liberated " them. These people will be sending flowers to George Bush. Didn't you see the 200 people in the streets holding the Go america signs ? I am sure the rest 25,000,000 people feel the same way. They all love the US , US liberated them and is getting rid of their "weapons of mass destruction". __________________ we buy domains with typin traffic. icq me 8566256

04-15-2003, 12:30 PM	#9
Simon-interaid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 814	See how Afganistan has become a paradise now? Their president doesn't have power 1 inch beyond Kabul. US liberated Afghanistan and once the Oil companies start pubmping the Oil I am sure "ALL" the money will be going towards the dear people of Iraq. __________________ we buy domains with typin traffic. icq me 8566256

04-15-2003, 12:32 PM	#10
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	playa, are you now seriously trying to say that all the Iraqi people blame Saddam for everything? Because that's simply not the case. Not even for the ones that hated the old regime. Most Iraqi's were and are against Saddam, yes, however many if not most were and are against America just as much, just like in most other Middle-Eastern countries. And, believe it or not, many do blame America for killing their sons/fathers/brothers/friends. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

04-15-2003, 11:57 AM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	i don't think so,, it's not like they had a choice to fight, I even seen a family accepted apolgize from a marine who shot their family members because of a suicide bomber in a car that wouldn't stop, the marines even helped them bury their dead members

04-15-2003, 12:45 PM	#12
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	Many people in most Arab countries have hated the US for a long time, for meddling in middle eastern politics. (That's the main reason, there are many others, ranging from "Americans are arrogant" through "all Americans chew gum" to "Americans mispronounce our names") After this whole Afghanistan/Iraq/possibly Syria/God alone knows who else debacle, I think it's safe to say that MOST people in ALL Arab countries now hate the US. __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-15-2003, 01:16 PM	#15
Simon-interaid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 814	I think the main reason why Arabs dislike the US is solely because of the Unconditional Love towards Israel. __________________ we buy domains with typin traffic. icq me 8566256